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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 7
Various News Sources | 7/14/05

Posted on 07/13/2005 11:15:06 PM PDT by TexKat

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba. AP photo


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; deepakkalpoe; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; satishkalpoe; vandersloot
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To: TexKat

It was one of the Fox shows....probably Gretta, but possibly H&C or OReilly.

I'm puzzled by it. It went by quickly, no one touched on it, but I'm sure I heard the stepfather say, "Small world..." and then it was followed by something about someone (I think someone on the island) he (or someone) went to school with. I believe he said military school.

I remember this person he mentioned had an odd nickname that he used....2 syllables....


1,141 posted on 07/16/2005 2:00:13 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Fritzy

Nobody seems to say much about them.

What I know is their father is in Surinam. They have been on Aruba a few years, 9 or 10 but I could be wrong. They are, at least one is paying for his own school. One is obsessive about his car being kept clean.

Deepak is rumored to be into drugs. They party alot from their tickle sites. They are online alot, even now. People at SM follow this.

But their father? Who is he?


1,142 posted on 07/16/2005 4:45:13 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: TexKat

Thanks,,incredible post!

I had heard the monkey story and that monkey noises were on the message Nat left on the phone.

But didn't know it was Jug's phone. Poor Jug. Imagine if the phone had been answered.


1,143 posted on 07/16/2005 4:54:21 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Jrabbit

Liar....post #886

I was asked via private mail what 'CTV' is several days ago. The addy to Court TV forums is: ''boards.courttv.com/''. The poster said in #886 that he had been to the Court TV site. Not everyone recognizes that CTV = Court TV.

1,144 posted on 07/16/2005 5:05:11 AM PDT by elli1
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To: presently no screen name

It just seems so strange,or maybe wishful thinking, but my husband said it's like looking for a needle in a haystack (no disrespect meant)
on an island surrounded by water.

Can these 5 evil people be that creative in the way they disposed of the body or is it something like its right under everyones noses.

Someone said earlier, these people aren't a Gotti how creative can they be? Or did they just luck out when they dumped her in the ocean and the body is long gone.
Very frustrating and maddening.


1,145 posted on 07/16/2005 5:18:17 AM PDT by stopem
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To: hummingbird

Thx HB, I appreciate that. Wasn't fishing, just stressed out about this tragedy in Aruba.


1,146 posted on 07/16/2005 5:37:10 AM PDT by Dark Skies (All Muslims aren't evil...just the real ones.)
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To: truthluva
Hey,,,I just have one question for you...
Which Kalpoe are you?

Truthluva, you don't seem to comprehend. TAquinas was able to see there were 3 black guards by reading that in the chicken guts.

1,147 posted on 07/16/2005 5:38:38 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: TAquinas

T Aquinas,it takes a person of character to admit they made a mistake. I commend you for stepping up with your best foot foward.

I polititely, disagree with you on the two security guards as the real perps. We must always remember who was Natalee seen in the company of last. Remember the three lied about dropping her off at the Holiday Inn and falling once outside the car.

Possibly their story would have some merit if the hotel cameras showed them dropping her off at the HI. A prudent and concerned person would have escorted Natalee to her room for her own safety. Those perps(3)are pathological liars and tried to finger the 2 security guards for the crime.

Don't take offense at my satire, sometimes I just like to liven up the conversation with some satirical illustrations. So as Jingle's said, "Just Be Cool and Everything Will Be Everything." NSNR


1,148 posted on 07/16/2005 6:14:01 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: hummingbird

Hummingbird, I believe they used the 2004 model, because the 2005 series kept disintergrating the transportees. This was caused by the gravity amplifiers generating too, much molecular subproton-density charged alphamegs.

During my discussion with Kralon Kommander Zachanu, he informed me that after and overwhelming consensous by the galactic order. The 2005 series was disbanded due to the enormous loss of transportees and it might offend the left wing Zirondian party.

I do appreciate you superb, sound and enlightening conveyance. This does calrify the model/year of the photoplasma tractor beam used to accomplish this covert Kralon operation in Aruba. aka (Kralon Snatch&Grab)

Well I gotta fled, I heard they were some (Inter-Federal Galctic Thought Police) bearing down on my para-plasmic ecosphere. NSNR


1,149 posted on 07/16/2005 6:32:27 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: xzins
I'm puzzled by it. It went by quickly, no one touched on it, but I'm sure I heard the stepfather say, "Small world..." and then it was followed by something about someone (I think someone on the island) he (or someone) went to school with. I believe he said military school.

Jossy Manuer's son attended the same military academy as Jugs.
1,150 posted on 07/16/2005 6:34:20 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc

Jossy is a newspaper editor on Aruba, right?

Who is his son?


1,151 posted on 07/16/2005 6:52:40 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Dolphy
Police Superintendent Jan van der Straaten told the AP Croes was detained based on information from one of the other three detainees.

If I recall correctly, he wasn't detained very long and the reason why they detained him was because while he was lying to support the brothers story, he didn't realize that they had changed theirs. This raised red flags with LE.

What I was wondering about is, the DJ lost his job and Mrs Kalpoe lost her job but I haven't heard if Deepak lost his job?

1,152 posted on 07/16/2005 6:55:52 AM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: Canadian Outrage

They must all be on vacation 24/7 to include 356&366 each year. Nothing gets done, if it will incriminate a protected member of the Aruban community.

I really see what a backwards people they are indeed. Apparently they cannnot facilitate the concept of training others to take your place as to continuing operations of any agency or services provided. NSNR


1,153 posted on 07/16/2005 6:55:59 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: cajungirl
Thanks for the reply... wish I had more time, you are all so informed and offer many viable thoughts.. while we do not know what the Aruban Authorities are actually accomplishing.. I believe it is imperative that everyone connected to the Aruban families in question should be of interest to the case.. NO ONE has discussed the Kalpoe bio father.. or even the stepfather.. who are the neighbors and what do they say about these families.. Greta brushed the Kalpoe neighbors last night.. but Mother Kalpoe said everything was "wonderful".. my other thought.. we all keep trying to rationalize our theories based on our accepted code of ethics and honor... the culture of Arubans do not appear to recognize or accept such ethics and honor.. a major chasm in our thinking.. just my weak two-cents.. I will keep reading.. again.. thanks!
1,154 posted on 07/16/2005 7:01:22 AM PDT by Fritzy (Fritzy)
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To: truthluva
I'm still looking for something on this Sergio Gomez. The closest thing I can find is a reporter from Venezuela named Sergio Gomez Maseri. Can't find any recent articles by him online. Sure would like to know what hppened to him.

What's the date of the most recent article?

1,155 posted on 07/16/2005 7:02:00 AM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: TexKat

Urine is what 6'5" and Natalee was 5'2". Natalee could have struck him a blow like thatif he were on top of her trying to rape her.

When fighting an opponent of his size, (Urinew) getting in close is the best way to strike a blow to his face. Natalee may have been small in side, but a truly frightened person fighting against a rape or death can deliver a powerful punch(Endorphin max). NSNR


1,156 posted on 07/16/2005 7:05:22 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

ReihlWorld is starting to accumulate all the different accounts of what happened that night Natalee disappeared.

Here is one excerpt :

"As one Mountain Brook Mother told me, "I feel that it is time for the parents, students, and members of the Mountain Brook community to step back and look at this scenario realistically. We need to stop playing the blame game - we are pointing fingers at everyone; the Arubans, the Dutch, the media, etc. We are a community in denial ... The bottom line is that our kids got caught up in the culture at Carlos and Charlies and were behaving wildly that night - dancing provocatively, doing body shots - I shudder to think what we might have seen had we been flies on the wall that night ... The dangerous part of the whole deal was that they were out of their element - they are young and inexperienced and were with people from all over the world ... the world is full of kooks and our kids were not behaving like ladies or gentlemen."

Entire article Can be read at:
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/07/natalee_hollowa_36.html#comments

Interesting read and why so many of the kids on the trip are either clamming up or cant remember because of the drugs and drinking.


1,157 posted on 07/16/2005 7:24:43 AM PDT by stopem
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To: stopem

it might be good for ALL 140 MBHS grads and ALL of their parents travel to Aruba with both US Senators and the House representative (as well as the same for Alabama, including the Governor) for that district in Alabama to further publicize this and do a little adamant investigating of their own and show determination & solidarity.


1,158 posted on 07/16/2005 7:36:03 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: stopem

And what's this about the Twitty family involved in some sort of money scandal by a corp called :

AmSouth Investment Services, Inc.
Title: PRESIDENT
TOM TWITTY

Now the theory is kidnapping because of this scandal with the Twitty's involved.

http://asc.state.al.us/News/2004%20News/3-29-04AmSouthFinedALMS.htm


1,159 posted on 07/16/2005 7:38:26 AM PDT by stopem
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To: Krodg; TexKat; Rippersnapper

Those are pretty good pictures! I can almost tell the make/model of them. It occurs to me, though, that the only car she was in may have been Deepak's - at least that one we know for sure she was in - and that he knew evidence could be found in his car. That would explain his mother's comment about his being so fastidious about his car.


1,160 posted on 07/16/2005 7:42:06 AM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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