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JOE WILSON: ’The President should fire Rove’!
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=7012 ^ | July 13, 2005

Posted on 07/13/2005 6:25:47 PM PDT by Howlin

The Ambassador Strikes Back, Answers to the Right Wing Spin Machine *** A BRAD BLOG EXCLUSIVE ***

Ambassador Joseph Wilson fired back today at the Rightwing Spin Machine, which, having been issued marching orders late yesterday in a set of talking points from the RNC, is once again hoping to distract from the potentially treasonous crimes that George W. Bush’s top political operative and Deputy Chief of Staff, Karl Rove is being alleged to have committed.

In a phone discussion early this afternoon, Wilson told The BRAD BLOG in no uncertain terms that "the President should fire Rove."

He told us that he’d be appearing on NBC’s Today Show tomorrow morning and would be repeating that call.

As well, he told The BRAD BLOG that he planned to read a letter on air which he received from Bush’s father, President George H.W. Bush shortly after an article of his was printed in the San Jose Weekly News, on October 13, 2002, in which Wilson related his concerns about the pitfalls of the approach to Iraq being taken at the time by both the U.N. and the U.S.

In reply to that article, Wilson said that the former President wrote that he had "read your article and I agree with a lot of it."

Additionally, Wilson explained, Bush 41’s own National Security Advisor, Brett Scowcroft had contacted him to ask whether he "could walk on over to the White House with the letter" at the time. Which apparently he did.

Wilson also had sent the article to Bush 41’s Secretary of State, James Baker.

"None of them responded saying you’re a Democratic partisan hack and your views suck," said Wilson.

The above points are notable, because armed with those RNC talking point, Rush Limbaugh, Fox "News" and Friends have today kicked into overdrive smearing and lying about Wilson, claiming that he was against the Iraq War from the get-go.

If fact, Wilson, who was in charge of the Embassy in Iraq during the first Gulf War under Bush 41 (he was the last American to speak personally with Saddam Hussein before the war begain, and was responsible for taking care of some 125 Americans who had sought refuge in the American Embassy there when they were not allowed by Saddam to leave the country just prior to the war), says that it was "a full eight months" after he was sent by the CIA to Niger to investigate claims that Iraq had attempted to purchase uranium there, "before I had said anything publicly about what America should consider in regard to a war with Iraq."

"My real concern was always WMD," he told us, "not Regime Change."

That concern was expressed in the October 2002, San Jose Weekly News editorial which apparently George W. Bush’s own father and National Security Advisor tended to agree with. Wilson’s trip to Niger occurred a full eight months earlier, in February of that same year.

We asked him if he had heard Fox "News’" John Gibson make his deplorable and irresponsible statement yesterday which said that "Karl Rove should receive a medal," because Wilson’s wife, covert CIA asset Valerie Plame, "should have been outted."

"Where I come from," slurred Gibson, "we do not want secret spy masters pulling the puppet strings in the background.

Gibson’s "logic", such that he has any, seems to be based on the unsupported claims that Plame -- or Wilson’s "little wifey" as Gibson condescendingly referred to her -- was "pulling the puppet strings" of national policy from her covert position in the CIA by sending Wilson, to Niger. That was, in Gibson’s false claim, because Wilson, "was opposed to the War in Iraq, opposed to Bush policy, and pointedly and loudly said so."

No, he didn’t, Mr. Gibson. Never mind those pesky facts. It’s only Fox "News" you work for, so we realize such facts are hardly relevant to you receiving your paycheck there.

"That is something that should be out in the open," blathered Gibson, "And the person doing it should be identified and should own up to it. So Rove should get a medal, if he did do what he says he didn’t do."

In response, Wilson simply said, "Well, that’s a lie. But no surprise there."

In the meantime, despite such pesky facts, the wingnuts also continue to claim that Plame was, in fact, not even a covert asset at the time of her outting.

The BRAD BLOG has learned from several sources, as also confirmed in Time magazine that Plame was indeed a "NOC", a nonofficial covert agent, the most valuable and secretive of CIA assets.

In regard to whether she was covert or not at the time of her outting by Rove, Bob Novak or whoever his "two senior administration sources" were, Wilson said, "What I can say is, that the CIA looked at the evidence of what had happened and referred the case to the Justice Department. That means that the CIA may think that a crime has been committed."

On Rightwing Hackery hoping to cynically deflect from the seriousness of the potentially treasonous crime committed by claiming that "Wilson lied" about his wife’s involvement in sending him to Niger, Wilson says, "In actual fact, all I’ve done is repeat what the CIA itself has said since July 22nd, 2003 as reported initially in Newsday by Knut Royce and Tim Phelps."

That Newsday article says [emphasis added]:

A senior intelligence official confirmed that Plame was a Directorate of Operations undercover officer who worked "alongside" the operations officers who asked her husband to travel to Niger.

But he said she did not recommend her husband to undertake the Niger assignment. "They [the officers who did ask Wilson to check the uranium story] were aware of who she was married to, which is not surprising," he said. "There are people elsewhere in government who are trying to make her look like she was the one who was cooking this up, for some reason," he said. "I can’t figure out what it could be."

"The CIA said [my wife] was not the person to have authorized my trip. They’ve repeated that time and time again."

And the Bush Apologists, who suddenly don’t seem to care all that much about National Security after all, keep repeating the opposite. Time and time again.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cia; cialeak; johngibson; leak; plame; rove; wilson; yellowcake
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To: kcvl

oh yea, the frog march. :D


101 posted on 07/13/2005 7:17:33 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: pbrown
It's already in place, more or less.......

CIA Leak

Available link is on main forum page.

102 posted on 07/13/2005 7:17:50 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: clintonh8r; Howlin
So...Brad's a DUmbass! Ha!

Have you read their threads (I know, take your antibiotic hand soap) where many of them are on some type of government "help"? Either they, their children or family members are on some type of federal aid. They want taxpayers to pay for their damn shrinks! They may need one but I don't think I should pay for it!!!

103 posted on 07/13/2005 7:18:17 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: hole_n_one

They did that last night? Her face is ALL over the internet not to mention Vanity Fair.


104 posted on 07/13/2005 7:18:32 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: Howlin

I just hope the words "stuff it" are in Bush's vocabulary.

I'm pretty sure they are and that's exactly what's required here. The democrats and MSM are fishing. NO BITES!


105 posted on 07/13/2005 7:18:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Howlin
Amy Carter! Where is she now? LOL!

My daughter came by this evening and needed the computer. I see this ridiculous story is still consuming Washington. Boy, am I looking forward to October, when all will be revealed!

106 posted on 07/13/2005 7:18:35 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Karl Rove is Plame-proof.)
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To: kcvl

Legends in their own minds.


107 posted on 07/13/2005 7:19:27 PM PDT by LucyJo
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To: Howlin
Ambassador Joseph Wilson fired back today at the Rightwing Spin Machine, which, having been issued marching orders late yesterday in a set of talking points from the RNC, is once again hoping to distract from the potentially treasonous crimes that George W. Bush’s top political operative and Deputy Chief of Staff, Karl Rove is being alleged to have committed.

The Republicans finally got their act together and came up with talking points? I must have missed the first issue. Slightly upset about it.

This is fast becoming hysterical! Are we sure this isn't satire? If it isn't, he's officially gone stark raving mad.

108 posted on 07/13/2005 7:19:42 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Howlin

Ambassador Wilson is CEO of JCWilson International Ventures, Corp., a firm specializing in Strategic Management and International Business Development.
Ambassador Wilson served as Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for African Affairs at the National Security Council from June 1997 until July 1998. In that capacity he was responsible for the coordination of U.S. policy to the 48 countries of sub-Saharan Africa. He was one of the principal architects of President Clinton’s historic trip to Africa in March 1998.

Ambassador Wilson was the Political Advisor to the Commander-in-Chief of United States Armed Forces, Europe, 1995-1997. He served as the U.S. Ambassador to the Gabonese Republic and to the Democratic Republic of Sao Tome and Principe from 1992 to 1995. From 1988 to 1991, Ambassador Wilson served in Baghdad, Iraq as Deputy Chief of Mission at the U.S. Embassy. During “Desert Shield” he was the acting Ambassador and was responsible for the negotiations that resulted in the release of several hundred American hostages. He was the last official American to meet with Saddam Hussein before the launching of “Desert Storm.”

Middle East Institute Media Resources biographyhttp://schema-root.org/region/americas/north_america/usa/government/officials/joseph_c._wilson_iv/


109 posted on 07/13/2005 7:19:57 PM PDT by victim soul
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To: Howlin
Joe, you doth protest too much!

Lando

110 posted on 07/13/2005 7:20:14 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln (How many liberals does it take to win a war?)
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To: Echo Talon

7/12/05


111 posted on 07/13/2005 7:20:22 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: daybreakcoming

What scares me is that I know two people who work for "the company." I didn't know it was illegal to know them. I guess I'll be arrested any day now. Or maybe I should just apologize and resign from something.


112 posted on 07/13/2005 7:20:28 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: Miss Marple

Do we have to wait til OCt...can't the SP issue indictments before then....Im not going to make it til then, my head is spinning now!


113 posted on 07/13/2005 7:20:53 PM PDT by mystery-ak (The real Supreme Court meets up here...God)
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To: kcvl
She sat quietly, wiping away a tear,

Some operative she was if she gets all that emotional. On the other hand, she may be a great actress.

114 posted on 07/13/2005 7:21:03 PM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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Meanwhile, perhaps just a coincidence:

(Sandy) Berger's sentencing delayed

115 posted on 07/13/2005 7:21:09 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: hole_n_one

A bunch of tools work at CNN. I think everyone already knew that. :D


116 posted on 07/13/2005 7:22:36 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: kcvl

Here's a chapter from his book that deals with this:

http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=58668

The Politics of Truth: Inside the Lies That Led to War and Betrayed My Wife's CIA Identity - A Diplomat's Memoir

Chapter 17: A Strange Encounter with Robert Novak


117 posted on 07/13/2005 7:23:06 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: Howlin

He likes to claim he was for the war back then, but from his article he clearly wanted to keep Saddam in power at all costs (didn't give a damn about Iraqis).


118 posted on 07/13/2005 7:24:15 PM PDT by palmer (If you see flies at the entrance to the burrow, the ground hog is probably inside)
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To: Miss Marple
Amy /Roslyn Carter
119 posted on 07/13/2005 7:24:34 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Howlin

If Cooper or Miller looked to CIA for corrobaration of Rove's statement then maybe the special prosecutor is looking for other sources of this "LEAK" as Rove's attorney said Rove was not a target and that is why Judith Miller went to jail protecting someone else besides Rove.


120 posted on 07/13/2005 7:26:17 PM PDT by victim soul
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