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Test Screening (Sen. Brownback to meet with Gonzales, AG likely to be nominated by Bush)
national review online: the buzz ^ | 12 July 2005 | national review's "the buzz"

Posted on 07/12/2005 7:48:24 AM PDT by watsonfellow

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To: Cicero

Well said.

As you can see, for many of us this would be a betrayal of the highest degree, and a death knell for the momentum the Conservative base has given the GOP in the last decade. Hope was finally in sight, we did everything right, and when the moment came...........Al Gonzalez benefited from the "friends and family" plan.

I would sit out 2006. I would never again volunteer to help on a campaign for a candidate, and donating money or time would simply be out of the question. There would be little point to my loyalty to the GOP anymore.

I would also do everything in my power to label Bush the liar that Liberals claim he is. Because then, he actually would be. I think that if Al Gonzalez gets nominated, we all on the right should join the chorus calling Bush a "liar," questioning his credibility on everything, and demanding investigations. If we can't trust his promise made at every campaign stop across the country, I'm not sure we can trust him at all, period.

Some Conservative who wants to win the Presidency needs to come out publicly right now against Alberto Gonzalez. It would be breaking ranks with the White House, but it would almost assure the momentum is his/hers to lose for the GOP primary in 2008.

I am calling for that Constitutional hero.


141 posted on 07/12/2005 8:36:19 PM PDT by TitansAFC ("It would be a hard government that should tax its people 1/10th part of their income."-Ben Franklin)
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To: newgeezer

"It seems by electing Republicans, we simply prolong the agony"

I agree. If this is true, Bush has hoodwinked us all and can not be trusted. Wonder what else he thinking of pulling??

Should have worked for and voted for Kerry instead of Bush? Man, time for a drink. :(


142 posted on 07/12/2005 8:44:33 PM PDT by griffin
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To: xjcsa
YOU SAID..."Are you prepared to make a public apology if/when Bush nominates Michael Luttig, or Emilio Garza, or Janice Rogers Brown?"

What am I apologizing for...lack of faith?

For even allowing the POSSIBILITY that Bush might nominate Gonzales...in response to multiple news leaks / reports to that effect? I remember stating on one thread that I didn't believe that Bush would nominate him for CJ...it was too crazy.

What Ive offered was more along the lines of speculation that IF Bush were to nominate Gonzales, the effect would be thus...and this is what it would mean to conservatives. Whats wrong with that? Ive never said he definitely will nominate Gonzales. I don't know.

Nobody knows one way or the other at this point...its all reasoned conjecture....unless you are on the WH inner circle staff.

If this were 2002...I would have been much more inclined to ignore the rumors.
143 posted on 07/12/2005 9:26:41 PM PDT by Dat Mon (will work for clever tagline)
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To: COEXERJ145

Um, if he isn't "on the short list", why did Dubya expend the capital to go on the attack when Gonzalez was being vilified by the right?

He IS on the short list, or Dubya wouldn't have cared.

And, if Dubya would start doing what he SAID he'd do if elected, we'd stop the "bashing". It isn't "bashing" - it's expecting the man to keep his word. (I know..an old fashioned perspective on things that's clearly outdated nowdays!)


144 posted on 07/13/2005 5:16:27 AM PDT by jstolzen (All it takes for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke)
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To: Burr5

It will take Stevens stepping down before Roe is overturned. I would rather see someone else appointed, but the sky is not falling if it is Gonzales.


145 posted on 07/13/2005 9:56:06 AM PDT by ConservativeLawStudent
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To: ConservativeLawStudent

Why the heck would replacing STEVENS with a real judge make a difference, but replacing O'Connor with a real judge would not?

Bush better get started replacing these arrogant Rulers with judges, and he better do it with this nomination. It was a campaign promise.


146 posted on 07/13/2005 2:09:12 PM PDT by Burr5
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To: Burr5

In the context of this post, not until Stevens or another lefty steps down will Roe be overturned. We need the President to replace both with strict constructionist/originalist judges.


147 posted on 07/13/2005 2:18:09 PM PDT by ConservativeLawStudent
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To: jveritas
What in the world are you babbling about? Bush promised to appoint Scalia-like originalists. If he can't keep the promise after dramatically increasing spending and doing nothing to secure the borders why in the world should conservatives ever vote Republican again?

Why is it Clinton can get two far left-wing judges appointed with no problem but it can't be expected that Bush and the Republicans to keep their promises when conservatives are far greater majority than liberals?

How can you call yourself pro-life and vote for someone that refuses to appoint judges that will overturn Roe? The blood of the unborn is on your hands if you do.

148 posted on 07/13/2005 2:33:12 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Bush weighs that against the several million new Hispanic votes the Republican Party is likely to if he puts Gonzales on the Court

He can gain all those Hispanic votes without losing the millions of conservative voters by appointing Emillo Garza or Miguel Estrada.

The Republicans are going to lose a heckuva a lot more votes than they will gain if Bush fails to keep his promise and nominate a Scalia-like originalist, a lot more than his father lost in 1992.

149 posted on 07/13/2005 2:39:29 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: jveritas
If this is the case then the whole fight against abortion is dead in the water since a good number of states have very liberal supreme courts that allow abortion laws.

Overturning Roe would return the power to the people on the issue and allow several states to outlaw abortion and virtually every state to implement further restrictions against it.

It's idiotic to state that Roe can't be overturned when three justices already support it being overturned. Nor is there any reason why Bush shouldn't keep his promise and appoint judges like Scalia and Thomas.

If you have any less expectations than that, then you are spineless. It's no wonder Republicans can will election after election and have virtually nothing to show for it when mindless people like you refuse to demand Republican politicians do what they promised to do.

150 posted on 07/13/2005 2:45:34 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Ol' Sparky
Calm down sparky.

Roe Vs Wade will not be overturned no matter how conservative the SOTUS gets. If you want to stay under the delusion that it can be over turned than be ready for more disappointments. I am just being realistic here and telling others not to get unrealistic because they will be crushed by reality.

151 posted on 07/13/2005 2:49:33 PM PDT by jveritas (The left cannot win a national election ever again and never will the Buchananites and 3rd parties)
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To: Ol' Sparky
The Republicans are going to lose a heckuva a lot more votes than they will gain if Bush fails to keep his promise and nominate a Scalia-like originalist, a lot more than his father lost in 1992.

Like what more is he going to lose, are you going to impeach him from his "second" term. May be you can get Buchanin to start an impeachment campaign.

152 posted on 07/13/2005 2:51:52 PM PDT by jveritas (The left cannot win a national election ever again and never will the Buchananites and 3rd parties)
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To: jveritas
Of course, Roe will be overturned if judges are appointed dedicated to overturning it. Three already on the court that have voted to overturn Roe in Planned Parenthood vs. Casey.

If you're not pressuring Bush appoint justices that will do so, you're a major part of the problem.

Calling yourself a pro-life and not fighting for politicians that will overturn Roe makes you responsible for the problem.

153 posted on 07/13/2005 3:36:30 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: watsonfellow

Gag!


154 posted on 07/13/2005 3:38:37 PM PDT by Modok
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To: jveritas
Who gives a rat's behind what happens to Bush if he doesn't keep his promise to appoint Scalia-like justices?

His administration increased spending at the fastest rate since the Lyndon Johnson administration in his first term, pushed through the socialist Medicare prescription drug plan and has done absolutely nothing to secure the borders. If he can't keep his promise on the judiciary, he is the ENEMY of the conservative movement.

You're nit wit if you don't understand that. There is nothing worse than morons that blindly vote for Republicans that impement leftist ideas.

155 posted on 07/13/2005 3:39:42 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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