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(Bill) Clinton Opposed to Iraq Withdrawal Deadline
AP ^ | July 9, 2005

Posted on 07/09/2005 10:33:37 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

Former President Bill Clinton says setting deadline for a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq would aid terrorists trying to destroy a growing democracy.

"They are dying beside us in the service of what they hope will be an independent country," said Clinton, speaking at the 2005 Aspen Ideas Festival on Friday night.

"I wouldn't give it up yet. I'd stick in there and try to make it work. And I wouldn't set a deadline either. I think that's a mistake. If we set a deadline, (the terrorists) will believe all they have to do is wait. So unless you know you can take out all these insurgents coming in from other countries ... you shouldn't set a deadline, otherwise they will wait us out and it would be demoralizing for the Iraqis," Clinton said in a speech at the Aspen Ideas Festival.

He noted 58 percent of Iraqis voted in their national election, more than in some recent U.S. elections. "It's clearly a legitimate process and the people want it to work, so I think we can try to make it work," he said.

"The key thing is to put them in a position to defend themselves to protect their gains as quickly as possible. The more they are capable of defending themselves, the less it'll look like an American takeover, the less there'll be sympathy for terrorists coming in from the outside, and the more incentive there'll be for the various factions to join the government and be full participants," he said.

Clinton scoffed at comparisons with Vietnam. "This not Vietnam. It might be a quagmire, but it won't be for the reason it was in Vietnam. Our problem (in Vietnam) was we didn't have a legitimate government to back. ... The government itself never had enough confidence to stand up."

Clinton predicted this week's bombings in London will strengthen the resolve of the British to fight terrorism.

"I actually think they made a tactically bad decision to do this thing in London, from their point of view (the terrorists)," Clinton said. "The British underwent the (Irish Republican Army) terrorism and the blitz bombing (from the Germans in World War II), and they are tough as nails. And they can take it and dish it out."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: billclinton; clinton; exitstrategy; impeachedx42; iraq; staythecourse; timetable; wariniraq; waronterror
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1 posted on 07/09/2005 10:33:37 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative
He noted 58 percent of Iraqis voted in their national election, more than in some recent U.S. elections.

Like 1992 and 1996.

2 posted on 07/09/2005 10:36:01 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

MSM should be shoving their mikes up Clinton's clymer -- not into his face...

Clinton is so pre-2001 - as to be totally irrelevant...

Semper Fi


3 posted on 07/09/2005 10:38:20 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
"This not Vietnam. It might be a quagmire but it won't be for the reason it was in Vietnam

So its more like . . . . . Kosovo?

4 posted on 07/09/2005 10:39:15 AM PDT by neodad (I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast, for I intend to go in harm's way)
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To: West Coast Conservative
"This not Vietnam. It might be a quagmire but it won't be for the reason it was in Vietnam

So its more like . . . . . Kosovo?

5 posted on 07/09/2005 10:39:16 AM PDT by neodad (I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast, for I intend to go in harm's way)
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To: West Coast Conservative

These might be helpful comments, but ex-Presidents should retire from the limelight. I would like to hear this from more than one or two (current) leading Democrats.


6 posted on 07/09/2005 10:39:56 AM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: West Coast Conservative

'toon was a lousy president....soooooooo who gives chit what he says!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


7 posted on 07/09/2005 10:40:14 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: river rat

Isn't Clinton Barbara Bush's new son and Poppy's new golf partner?


8 posted on 07/09/2005 10:40:51 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: West Coast Conservative
Our problem (in Vietnam) was we didn't have a legitimate government to back. ... The government itself never had enough confidence to stand up."

Our problem in Vietnam was the fact that Johnson and McNamara managed the war themselves. Our problem in Vietnam is the fact that Cronkite and the rest of the media lied to us about the Tet offensive. The problem with Vietnam is the fact that the left actively sought to subvert the war effort in order to gain power for themselves. The problem with Vietnam is the fact that the rat congress cut off aid to South Vietnam.

Shut up, cigar man.

9 posted on 07/09/2005 10:41:01 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Error 404: Page Not Found)
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To: neodad

Good one...the "quagmire" word was a nod and a wink to the "psychiatric wing" of the Dem Party


10 posted on 07/09/2005 10:41:17 AM PDT by sofaman
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To: West Coast Conservative

Despite the quagmire towing the party line comment, there is a lot here to shove in liberals faces when their hero Clinton says a lot of things that back up Bush.

Use this!


11 posted on 07/09/2005 10:43:54 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: West Coast Conservative

Odd what comes out of this ex-prez who should have been prosecuted for being a sexual predator will say sans Hitlery.


12 posted on 07/09/2005 10:46:41 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Names Ash Housewares

"Despite the quagmire towing the party line comment, there is a lot here to shove in liberals faces when their hero Clinton says a lot of things that back up Bush."

True. But as far as I am concerned, Bill is just a piece of Hillary's strategy now. His "turn" is over and now its her "turn". This is just part of the image that implies, "Hillary is a strong-on-defense moderate now, not Left Wing anymore."


13 posted on 07/09/2005 10:49:45 AM PDT by strategofr (What did happen to those 293 boxes of secret FBI files (esp on Senators) Hillary stole?)
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To: sofaman

I have a feeling the "quagmire" word was used in the question to him, as in "Is this a quagmire like Vietnam?"

I actually think these comments are pretty good, given the source. As "Names Ash Housewares" said, this will make many Democrats apoplectic and it should be thrown in their faces that their "hero" essentially agrees with President Bush.


14 posted on 07/09/2005 10:50:05 AM PDT by saquin
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To: West Coast Conservative

Bull Clintoon as well as Hitlery need to wear meat hats and get out of the spotlight once and for all.

http://www.hatsofmeat.com/


15 posted on 07/09/2005 10:51:44 AM PDT by EdHallick (Bipedal primates are all over the freggin` place...run for your lives!)
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To: saquin

The comments are certainly far more positive than those coming from the likes of Dick Durbin, Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi and Hairy Reid...and it is certainly welcome ammo against the left


16 posted on 07/09/2005 10:55:37 AM PDT by sofaman
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To: sofaman
Clinton's comments are supportive and realistic. I'm not going to trash him but thank him. I just got off the Guardian thread.

To make this work, we are going to need all the positive help we can get from wherever it comes.

Thank you, Bill Clinton.

17 posted on 07/09/2005 11:02:35 AM PDT by Aliska
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To: West Coast Conservative

"Don't look a gift horse in the mouth."


18 posted on 07/09/2005 11:11:46 AM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: river rat
"Clinton is so pre-2001 - as to be totally irrelevant... "
Perfect, rr.

2 stale jokes in suits trying to pass for human.
(
hillary's positioning on national security is almost funnier than her risible rape-victim advocacy pose.)

hillary talks:ON TERROR


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also: HILLARY IS NIXON-PLUS part 1

19 posted on 07/09/2005 11:37:12 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: NutCrackerBoy
Don't fool yourself. He is doing this to help his wife's "move to the center" and to avoid leaving sound-bites that can be used against her should she become President.


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Not for the timid

20 posted on 07/09/2005 11:48:25 AM PDT by sharktrager (My life is like a box of chocolates, but someone took all the good ones.)
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