Posted on 07/08/2005 2:56:03 PM PDT by CHARLITE
Sen. Barbara Boxer says women will die President Bush nominates a pro-life judge to the Supreme Court.
Five thousand women a year will die if President Bush nominates a pro-life judge to the Supreme Court — that's the claim of liberal U.S. Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif. And it's just a sample of the ramped-up rhetoric you can expect as Bush prepares to nominate a replacement for the retiring Sandra Day O'Connor.
Douglas Johnson, legislative director for the National Right to Life Committee, said Boxer's claim of 5,000 deaths, made to an Associated Press reporter, pure fantasy.
"Senator Boxer's reliance on such an urban legend doesn't do her any credit," he said. "Dr. Bernard Nathanson, who was one of the three founders the National Abortion Rights Action League, wrote a book some years ago in which he admitted he and the other early founders of NARAL had fabricated this figure."
Serrin Foster, president of Feminists for Life of America, said she wonders who's doing the senator's fact-checking.
"Whoever the staffer was that fed her this erroneous, unsubstantiated number needs to be fired," she said, "and Barbara Boxer needs to make a retraction."
Carrie Gordon-Earll, senior analyst for bioethics at Focus on the Family Action, said it's no surprise that the pro-abortion community is using Roe v. Wade as a panic button.
"There are no statistics to back up that type of inflammatory statement," she noted. "Very clearly, Senator Boxer is doing this to try to scare people into supporting a more liberal justice to the Supreme Court.
"If and when the court overturns Roe v. Wade, that merely sends . . . the abortion issue back to the states. It doesn't make abortion illegal in all 50 states."
That's easy.
To the left, reality is a right-wing plot. Facing reality, dealing with the truth, and acting rationally makes one a right-winger.
They like being wrong. Being wrong shows that you are not selling out. Being wrong shows that you are creative.
(steely)
That's just what I was going to write. Doesn't Boxer realize the irony of her statement?
How many female infants have been slaughtered?
nobody will die if they follow the law and do not abort, if Roe is overturned at the Fed and State levels.
Plus, acting responsibly is decidedly "right wing."
Hmmmm?? Why has the democrat party lost it's strength .. all the new recruits are in the garbage cans in back of the abortion clinics.
I belive the number is 40 MILLION babies. How many deadly diseases will not be cured; how many great minds were never allowed to develop; how many great inventions were lost; how many new technologies will never be developed; how many preachers never fulfilled their calling.
Thomas Jefferson capsulized a premise underlying our Declaration of Independence and Constitution:
"The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them."
For two almost hundred years, this premise served as America's guard against tyrannical forms of government, as well as the tyranny of individuals who would seek to deny the people's rights or to enslave them under the guise of protecting them.
John F. Kennedy's 1961 Inaugural Address included this assertion of that premise: "The world is different now. . . And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forefathers fought are still at issue around the globe--the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God."
In the decades since 1961, however, a new and different kind of challenge to that premise has been imposed upon us.
At the time of Kennedy's Inauguration and before, most citizens never had seen a few-weeks-old infant in the womb; and few could conceive that one could be a completely-formed little human being.
Human knowledge had not yet developed the science and technology for viewing and observing life and activities the womb.
It was easy for the word “fetus” to become used as a non-personal way of describing what we could not visualize or observe. And, we did not recognize the potential political trickery of such a use of semantics by those who might be intent on making basic changes in the laws and protections of our Constitution.
Science and technology of the last few decades, however, have opened to our observation the very earliest stages of human development, through live photography. More recently, we have seen examples of a baby in such an early stage, weighing only ounces, delivered and thriving, full of potential as a future leader, scientist, or artist.
With the cameras available to us, we now can see a completely-formed little person, and we know that what is only weeks old, if allowed to develop either inside or outside the womb, is an individual human being whose right to life, rights and liberty must be “destroyed” by the hand of force in order to be denied.
The time is now for confronting the fundamental question about life and liberty addressed by Jefferson and Kennedy (as well as others of America’s Founders and Presidents), with a cognizance that our answer will impact upon every dimension of our liberty, for if we separate ourselves from the foundation, then no rights can be said to be secure.
Either the rights and liberty of human beings are grants of the Creator, or they are grants from other imperfect human beings, or in this case, one class of citizens--women--who, themselves, claim a "grant" of that so-called "right to choose" with the complicity and aid of the "hand of force" (the judiciary) within their government.
Which is it to be?
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...however...it, however sadly...may prevent the rise of another BB....
Dear LL2,
I read alot of posts in this forum each day.
Your words are powerful, especially these; "Fear and misrepresentation are weapons often used by those who wish to deny life and liberty. We are seeing enough of it today by America's enemies. We don't need to have our own elected representatives using them."
Thanks much for your truthfulness.
BTW, We are going to win. It's words like yours that convince me this will be so.
"Is it about 43 million they've murdered in the past 30 years or better? At least HALF or more were "potential" women. That means BB and her gang have aided the slaughter of 22.5 million women....most of who would be active, productive citizens; paying taxes to support her sorry rear-end. /rant"
Thank you for posting it this way. That means that as things are now, we are killing approx. 750,000 women per year and that is better than killing a fictitious 5,000 per year?
I think boxer needs a lesson in simple math.
Dr. Nathanson notes that the number comes from 1972 testimony before the Supreme Court about annual female deaths from illegal abortions, confessing, "We spoke of 5,000 to 10,000 deaths a year. I confess that I knew the figures were totally false...[but] it was a useful figure, widely accepted, so why go out of our way to correct it with honest statistics?"
I think you're right.....and I think Boxer and her minions need to have this thrown in their faces .....every time they lie about the abortion issues.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
Boxer is wrong, of course:
The CORRECT figure is that 5 BILLION unborn feminazis will die.
Boxer and all her shrill cohorts are either ignorant of the distinguishing characteristic upon which their own liberty was founded, or they are deliberately attempting to destroy it for present and future generations. It is easy to see how they might be ignorant of it, for the ideas and enduring principles underlying the American Declaration and Constitution have not been emphasized or taught in our schools for many decades. By contrast, one can pick up 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th-Grade Readers in antique stores and see that those ideas were the focus of the stories, poems, and character-building exercises in public education until it was hijacked by another philosophy.
In this day of easy Internet access to the prolific writings of America's Founders, its Presidents, and early Justices, however, there is no excuse for such ignorance.
I repeat below the words of two Presidents which summarize in unmistakable terms the defining difference between a philosophy of oppression and tyranny versus that of liberty enshrined in our Declaration and structured into a "people-controlled government to protect it. As we have allowed ourselves to moved away from this basic understanding, we have opened the door to all sorts of violations of life and liberty.
Thomas Jefferson capsulized a premise underlying our Declaration of Independence and Constitution:
"The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them."
For two almost hundred years, this premise served as America's guard against tyrannical forms of government, as well as the tyranny of individuals who would seek to deny the people's rights or to enslave them under the guise of protecting them.
John F. Kennedy's 1961 Inaugural Address included this assertion of that premise: "The world is different now. . . And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forefathers fought are still at issue around the globe--the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God."
One more might be added, in light of Kelo. It is John Adams' words:
"The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God ... anarchy and tyranny commence. PROPERTY MUST BE SECURED OR LIBERTY CANNOT EXIST."
If the "Laws of Nature and of Nature's God," and "Creator-endowed" (therefore, unalienable) rights to life and liberty, are ignored or denied by legislative or judicial fiat, then one can understand why all rights, including property, are at risk.
You are on a roll, LL2.
Where can I find the Jefferson quote?
"The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them."
Thanks in advance.
Here is another on the same topic that is especially appropriate for the discussions today::
"Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the gift of God? — TITLE: Notes on Virginia. EDITION: Washington ed. viii, 404. EDITION: Ford ed., iii, 267. PLACE: [none given] DATE: 1782
The Radical Left loves to quote a phrase from one letter Jefferson wrote to the Baptists. At the same time, they don't ever quote his strong admonition on how the Constitution should be interpreted. He warned:
"On every question of construction, carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
"The Radical Left loves to quote a phrase from one letter Jefferson wrote to the Baptists..."
This is what I had in mind when I read your first quote. I will peruse your sources also.
Thanks and keep up the good work.
It took me a bit to find "The Founder's Constitution" on the UC site.
I've bookmarked this very good resource. Thanks again.
http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/
Not to mention that liar who has been referenced in high school biology books for decades showing that there is no difference between a pig fetus and a human fetus till when - 4 months? That has certainly helped many see a fetus as non-human. Technology (the ability to actually see your own fetus very early) is now helping people move past the lie and see a fetus as human.
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