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Maybe it's time FINALLY to go and get Osama? Remember Osama? Anybody? Anybody?
churchillbuff

Posted on 07/07/2005 12:35:25 PM PDT by churchillbuff

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To: churchillbuff
I've seen only two posts expressing support for what you've said, you seem to hold a real minority view here (either that, or the others aren't talking), so I appreciate your response.

You haven't mentioned it, but seeing as your priority is fighting terror networks, I was curious about what you thought of the recent morphs of the so-called 'flypaper theory'. For example, from the President's recent speech:

Iraq is the latest battlefield in this war. Many terrorists who kill innocent men, women, and children on the streets of Baghdad are followers of the same murderous ideology that took the lives of our citizens in New York, Washington, and Pennsylvania. There is only one course of action against them: to defeat them abroad before they attack us at home. The commander in charge of coalition operations in Iraq -- who is also senior commander at this base -- General John Vines, put it well the other day. He said: "We either deal with terrorism and this extremism abroad, or we deal with it when it comes to us."

Does that strike a cord with you at all?

201 posted on 07/08/2005 4:40:44 PM PDT by rummyelendil (Tagline for rent. Inquire within.)
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To: churchillbuff
You think it is easy? Why don't you go out and and help our troops find him.

BTW Saddam needed to be taken out. It does not matter wether Saddam was connected to 9/11 or not (although he was behind the 1993 bombing), he was a threat to us and to Israel.

202 posted on 07/08/2005 4:44:53 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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To: churchillbuff
My purpose is to stimulate some independent thought among freepers who are too willing to be guided by the administration's propaganda slogans re. the war in Iraq. (I'm a rare bird - a conservative Republican - NOT a Buchananite - who opposed the Iraq invasion from the outset as a diversion from Job 1: capturing and killing Al Quada. It's precisely because I'm NOT a pacifist or appeaser that I wanted us to go with force and fury against the culprits of 9-11, before using 9-11 as an excuse to pursue unrelated agendas - which is what I consider the invasion of Iraq to be. Now, Saddam, Al Quada and its networks having been neglected, on a relative scale, by us, their threat continues and perhaps has grown - that's the message I take from yesterday's bombing). Therefore, it was an appropriate time for some pot-stirring, and that was the point of starting this thread.

Look kiddo just because its not reported by the MSM does not mean we are neglecting the hunt for Osama. Would we STILL have 100,000 troops in Afganistan if we gave up the hunt for Osama? I did not think so.

203 posted on 07/08/2005 4:50:52 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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To: Paul_Denton
he was a threat to us """

You're dreaming.

204 posted on 07/08/2005 4:57:30 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

Prove that he was not a threat then.


205 posted on 07/08/2005 5:01:46 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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"but we turned our attention to Iraq"

Tell that to the 100,000 plus military members in Afhanistan...the SEAL teams would love to hear your take on this...since you think there efforts are not substantive.

You may want to tell it to the thousands of people who work in intelligence etc who are working very hard attempting to track down the little cave-dwelling coward.


206 posted on 07/08/2005 5:09:45 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: churchillbuff
Paul_Denton said,
”he(Saddam) was a threat to us "

churchillbuff said,
You're dreaming.



USS Cole (financed by Saddam)


WTC 93 Saddams secret service did this operation.

These must be my nightmares.

I don't remember "churchillbuff" years ago, but I susspect you are not really a Freeper. You are to ill-informed.

207 posted on 07/08/2005 5:21:59 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn
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To: Paul_Denton
“Prove that he was not a threat then.”

Actually that is our job to prove that he was a threat. But churchillbuff flat out ignores facts. I honestly don’t believe he is a freeper or is playing devils advocate to see what people say.

208 posted on 07/08/2005 5:25:57 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn
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To: Steve Van Doorn
I honestly don’t believe he is a freeper or is playing devils advocate to see what people say.

Same here. Well he should go to DUmmy-stan. He would find more peole that agree with him there.

209 posted on 07/08/2005 5:33:08 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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To: fellowpatriot
Please explain how capturing Osama is going to stop this?

The Muslims didn't need Osama Bin Laden to invade Spain in 711 and slaughter or enslave everyone they found.

210 posted on 07/08/2005 5:45:20 PM PDT by montag813
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To: churchillbuff
Look "friend" President Bush never said that Saddam was behind 9/11, Saddam was known to have WMDs just look at the Gulf War under Bush 41. Saddam even said himself that he would have went to war with us (U.S.) again if he was still in power today. So President Bush did the right thing by going to war with Saddam's Iraq. Now about UBL (Osama), we are sill in Afghanistan looking for him. Yes it's been about 4 years now, but you try looking for the world's most wanted man in the mountains of the Afghanistan/Pakistan area. See how easy it is! Also, there are still some people in the Afghanistan/Pakistan area who think Osama is the good guy and are protecting him. President Bush has not given up on finding Osama, and you know it! Wake up!
211 posted on 07/08/2005 7:15:11 PM PDT by YoungCorps
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To: Paul_Denton
Prove that he was not a threat then."""

Prove that he was. He didn't have a military -- army, navy or air force - worth squat. He was hemmed in by sanctions and overflight patrols. His country was poorer than dirt. He didn't have WMDs -- as Bush has publicly said. (Bush says we had bad intelligence and that it turns out Saddam didn't have WMDs). He was less a threat to us than Cuba, and I don't hear anybody on FR arguing for invading Cuba.

212 posted on 07/08/2005 9:31:30 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Paul_Denton
It does not matter wether Saddam was connected to 9/11 """

Yes it does, because 9-11 was the reason, publicly stated, that we went on war footing. Responding to an attack -- and responding to the attacker -- should be the number one priority. Otherwise, it would be like responding to Pearl Harbor by invading Venezuala because we had some old unresolved beef with Venezuala, even thought it had nothing to do with Pearl Harbor.

213 posted on 07/08/2005 9:34:45 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: rummyelendil
Does that strike a cord with you at all? -- the flypaper theory?

-- No, it doesn't make sense to me, because terrorists whose goal is to blow up American cities will come to American cities, not to Iraq, in order to blow up American cities. Keeping them out -- keeping us safe -- means guarding our borders. And we're not doing that. Some "war on terror," when the terrorists can walz right in from Mexico or Canada.

A real war on terror means guarding the homeland. Ask Sharon - he put up a wall to fight terror. But we have a "come on in" policy.

214 posted on 07/08/2005 9:40:32 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
Keeping them out -- keeping us safe -- means guarding our borders. And we're not doing that. Some "war on terror," when the terrorists can walz right in from Mexico or Canada.
Pretty much. We're only fighting one front in a two-front war. It's a bit silly to trundle off and fight Osama at his house, but leave our back door standing wide open with a neon sign that says, "INVADE USA HERE."

Securing our borders is very much a part of the WoT. Why do we have to wait for al Qaeda to exploit that opening and kill more Americans before we close it?

215 posted on 07/08/2005 9:47:38 PM PDT by jayhorn (when i hit the drum, you shake the booty.)
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To: jayhorn
Why do we have to wait for al Qaeda to exploit that opening and kill more Americans before we close it?"""

That's my question - and I get flamed for asking it.

216 posted on 07/08/2005 9:50:20 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: fellowpatriot
Please explain how capturing Osama is going to stop this?"""

Interesting point. We were told that capturing Saddam would stop it. That was wrong, obviously. The difference is, Osama is actually a ringleader of a terror group - Al Quada - that hit us on 9-11 and is still hitting the West (London bombing is speculated to be Al Quada, as was MAdrid). Getting the ringleader is usually standard strategy when going after criminal elements.

217 posted on 07/08/2005 9:54:46 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
Prove that he was. He didn't have a military -- army, navy or air force - worth squat. He was hemmed in by sanctions and overflight patrols. His country was poorer than dirt. He didn't have WMDs -- as Bush has publicly said. (Bush says we had bad intelligence and that it turns out Saddam didn't have WMDs). He was less a threat to us than Cuba, and I don't hear anybody on FR arguing for invading Cuba.

No I told you to prove that he was not a threat. You are sidestepping the subject like any troll. But it appears that not even "Post Amnesty" is helping you when other people who have been here that long are gaining up on you.

You are dumb to think only in military terms and ignore his support for terrorists. Oh and there were several instances where nerve gas was found, another fact that you ignore.

Every single troll is an ENEMY OF THE REPUBLIC!


218 posted on 07/08/2005 9:58:19 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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To: Paul_Denton

most Americans now recognized the invasion was a mistake - - an unfortunate diversion from going after Al Quada and Osama. We have the right number of troops in the field, but they should have been focused on destroying our prime military enemy - Osama and his culprits. Those thousands of people whom Osama killed on 9-11 have not been avenged.


219 posted on 07/08/2005 10:01:58 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
That's my question - and I get flamed for asking it.
It's a message board. What did you expect?
220 posted on 07/08/2005 10:02:22 PM PDT by jayhorn (confucius say, "messengers who wear bullet-proof vests live longer.")
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