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US delight as Iraqi rebels turn their guns on al-Qa'eda
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 7/4/05 | Oliver Poole

Posted on 07/03/2005 6:11:16 PM PDT by saquin

American troops on the Syrian border are enjoying a battle they have long waited to see - a clash between foreign al-Qa'eda fighters and Iraqi insurgents.

Tribal leaders in Husaybah are attacking followers of Abu Musab Zarqawi, the Jordanian-born terrorist who established the town as an entry point for al-Qa'eda jihadists being smuggled into the country.

The reason, the US military believes, is frustration at the heavy-handed approach of the foreigners, who have kidnapped and assassinated local leaders and imposed a strict Islamic code.

Fighting, which could be clearly heard at night over the weekend, first broke out in May when as many as 50 mortar rounds were fired across the city. But, to the surprise of the American garrison, this time it was not the target.

If a shell landed near the US base, "they'd adjust their fire and not shoot at us", Lt Col Tim Mundy said. "They shot at each other."

The trigger was the assassination of a tribal sheikh, from the Sulaiman tribe, ordered by Zarqawi for inviting senior US marines for lunch. American troops gained an insight into the measures the jihadists had imposed during recent house-to-house searches in nearby towns and villages.

Shops selling music and satellite dishes had been closed. Women were ordered to wear all-enveloping clothing and men forbidden from wearing western clothes.

Anyone considered to be aiding coalition forces was being killed or kidnapped. That included those with links to the government - seen as a US puppet - such as water or electricity officials. As a result local services had collapsed.

Captain Thomas Sibley, intelligence officer of 3rd battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, based in Qaim, said: "People here were committed supporters of the insurgency but you cannot now even get a marriage licence.

"The tribes are the only system or organisation left and they appear to have stepped in.

"In the last week our camp in the town was attacked and the attackers got ambushed on the way back by two machineguns and mortar fire. That is good news for us."

Baghdad recently warned that Iraqi insurgents, many of them nationalists rather than Islamists, and al-Qa'eda cells were working more closely together than in the past. That was brought into doubt when the bodies of three foreigners, believed to be insurgents, were discovered in Ramadi, apparently killed by Iraqis.

But the extent of the jihadist presence in Hasaybah - and therefore the subsequent tension - is unique.

Foreign fighters first started to arrive two years ago after Zarqawi bought properties to use as safe houses for arrivals before they could be funnelled east towards Baghdad and other major cities.

The police fled in November. In mid-June, al-Qa'eda units took over key buildings, including mosques and government offices. "Al-Qa'eda in Iraq" flags were raised.

The city, 240 miles north-west of Baghdad and adjacent to the insurgent centre of Qaim, is so dangerous that soldiers in the US base sleep in bunkers because of mortar and rocket attacks.

Following al-Qa'eda's seizure of the main buildings a number of residents fled. Arkan Salim, 56, who left with his wife and four children, said: "We thought they were patriotic. Now we discovered that they are sick and crazy.

"They interfered in everything, even how we raise our children. They turned the city into hell, and we cannot live in it anymore."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaedairaq; choiceofterrorists; girlieman; gnfi; gwot; hanoijohnny; husaybah; ichabodcrane; iraq; lurch; martyrsiniraq; oif; quagmire; waronterror; zarqawi
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To: SweetCaroline; All

I'm not sure that this is a good thing. I mean, it's nice...but do we really want a civil war? Probably not.


61 posted on 07/03/2005 9:15:15 PM PDT by edmond246 (Condi '08)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Thanks for this info/map!


62 posted on 07/03/2005 9:19:48 PM PDT by de Buillion (Abortion kills more Democrats than Republicans, More Liberals than Conservatives!)
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To: mdittmar
If a shell landed near the US base, "they'd adjust their fire and not shoot at us", Lt Col Tim Mundy said. "They shot at each other."

I just LOVE that sentence! God Bless our troops. Happy Independence Day!!!

Thank you for the excerpt and the audio. It has been one of my favorite passages from that speech. I'm listening to it now. I want our cowboy back!

63 posted on 07/03/2005 9:21:16 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (As Iraqi's stand up - We will stand down. . President Bush, 6/28/05)
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To: saquin
Foreign fighters first started to arrive two years ago after Zarqawi bought properties to use as safe houses...

Zarqawi, real estate investor -- kaboom!

64 posted on 07/03/2005 9:33:29 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Marine_Uncle
Notice..... US delight as Iraqi rebels turn their guns on al-Qa'eda
By Oliver Poole in Qaim
(Filed: 04/07/2005)

I think that is actually the 4 th of July, (remember it is England ) ....now it would be nice to know if this is actually going on in July, or whither the reporter is taking us back in time....

I think operation Matador is the first time I heard of the Iraqis turning on the foreigners....and I think that was after April 7.

65 posted on 07/03/2005 9:39:47 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"I think operation Matador is the first time I heard of the Iraqis turning on the foreigners....and I think that was after April 7."

You are correct. And I had shared some of these details both from Matador as well as Spear some time back with you, Gutcho, and a few others, in three or so posts. Bill Rogilos's forth rail and other blog sites had short blips to this effect.
But is was nice seeing our Freepers having a bit of happy responses for a change!
Watch out for stray fire works! KAboooom.
Bed time.


66 posted on 07/03/2005 9:45:24 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: ImaTexan

ping


67 posted on 07/03/2005 9:52:00 PM PDT by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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To: ducks1944; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; TrueBeliever9; anniegetyourgun; maestro; TEXOKIE; ...
American troops on the Syrian border are enjoying a battle they have long waited to see - a clash between foreign al-Qa'eda fighters and Iraqi insurgents.

Tribal leaders in Husaybah are attacking followers of Abu Musab Zarqawi, the Jordanian-born terrorist who established the town as an entry point for al-Qa'eda jihadists being smuggled into the country.

The reason, the US military believes, is frustration at the heavy-handed approach of the foreigners, who have kidnapped and assassinated local leaders and imposed a strict Islamic code.

68 posted on 07/03/2005 10:02:00 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Watching the Impact on the Comet on the live thread tonight, so staying up a bit longer.


69 posted on 07/03/2005 10:02:29 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Calpernia


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Now, ain't Freedom great..?

The BUSH Century =

The 21st Century =

The LIBERTY Century

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70 posted on 07/03/2005 10:11:11 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Eventually evil cannot triumph and the vast majority of Iraqis, including the Sunni Arabs, have already realized that the terrorists are just pure evil and for that that want to fight these terrorists and kill them, kill them all. By the end of this year the the terrorist insurgency in Iraq will be almost dead if not totally dead.

maybe since it has appeared in a major Brit paper the NY Times or Washington Post will let the shepple over here in the States finally know.

For our great fortune the majority of the "shepple" that many freepers like to use them to support their doom and gloom scenarios, do not read the New York Times, or the Washington post, and most importantly the majority of them do not vote.

71 posted on 07/03/2005 10:21:50 PM PDT by jveritas (The left cannot win a national election ever again.)
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To: Calpernia

My goodness!

This is awesome!

PTL!


72 posted on 07/03/2005 10:29:26 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 ("Many Democrats are not weak Americans. But nearly all weak Americans are Democrats." M. Bowers)
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To: Nam Vet

That is my opinion as well and sure enough this article proves that point. Was so glad to read this after all the negatives we keep seeing.


73 posted on 07/03/2005 10:53:36 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for OK Governor in '06; Allen/Watts in 2008)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Surprisingly, the NYT did run a similar story about a week ago.


74 posted on 07/03/2005 11:04:28 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Typing from an undisclosed location.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Really, I fully expect the MSM to pull out all the stops reporting this!/sarcasm off


75 posted on 07/03/2005 11:04:33 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: MinorityRepublican
FOREIGN DESK | June 21, 2005, Tuesday

Marines See Signs Iraq Rebels Are Battling Foreign Fighters

By SABRINA TAVERNISE (NYT) 712 words Late Edition - Final , Section A , Page 6 , Column 5

ABSTRACT - Marines patrolling desert region of Iraq near Syrian border report strange new trend in insurgency: insurgents fighting each other in towns along Euphrates; observations offer new clue in hidden world of insurgency and suggest that there may have been split between Islamic militants and local rebels (M)

76 posted on 07/03/2005 11:10:26 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Typing from an undisclosed location.)
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To: saquin
Too bad it was not the Washington Times reporting this... But maybe the fact it is a British newspaper might be that the British learned a lesson over 220+ years ago in their American Colonies...

Happy 4th of July!

77 posted on 07/03/2005 11:10:59 PM PDT by topher (One Nation under God -- God bless and protect our troops)
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To: saquin
Former Ba'athists and Al-Qaeda duking it out.

Makes it a little easier on our side. ;-)

78 posted on 07/03/2005 11:11:56 PM PDT by Allegra (On the Rocks With Salt, Please...)
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To: 1stFreedom

ping -- our troops are getting fireworks in Iraq courtesy of the Iraqi terrorists fighting the Foreign terrorists -- LOL.


79 posted on 07/03/2005 11:15:48 PM PDT by topher (One Nation under God -- God bless and protect our troops)
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To: Allegra
Former Ba'athists and Al-Qaeda duking it out.

Makes it a little easier on our side. ;-)

Pretty good 4th of July fireworks for our troops -- they just sit back and watch the fun (but keep away from those stray rounds).

80 posted on 07/03/2005 11:17:41 PM PDT by topher (One Nation under God -- God bless and protect our troops)
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