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What happened to the "Religion of Peace"?
Vanity | River Rat

Posted on 07/01/2005 9:51:48 AM PDT by river rat

Has President Bush finally gotten the message?

In his recent speech at Fort Bragg -- he didn't once attempt to sell the notion that Islam is a "Religion of Peace"...

He described whom we KNOW to be Fundamental Islamics as ---- "Many terrorists who kill innocent men, women, and children on the streets of Baghdad are followers of the same murderous ideology that took the lives of our citizens in New York, in Washington, and Pennsylvania. There is only one course of action against them: to defeat them abroad before they attack us at home."

Am I the only one who noticed that President Bush FINALLY referred to Islam as a "murderous ideology"!!!

OH THE HORROR..... Where is the outrage from the screaming "Arab Street" and their fellow travellers on the Left?

Originally --- our Islamic Lunatic enemy had NO National/Government address we could simply destroy. Now -- it appear our President is refusing to give them a "religion" to hide behind...


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To: river rat
Many terrorists who kill innocent men, women, and children on the streets of Baghdad are followers of the same murderous ideology that took the lives of our citizens in New York, in Washington, and Pennsylvania.

Good catch. Have there been any squealings from CAIR about this statement?

21 posted on 07/01/2005 10:45:40 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (If this isn't the End Times it certainly is a reasonable facsimile...)
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To: river rat

It, quite simply, never existed!


22 posted on 07/01/2005 10:46:36 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: expatpat

I agree I was careless in that statement...
The President was more specific....but specific nonetheless.

I stand corrected...

Semper Fi


23 posted on 07/01/2005 10:47:49 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: highball
"He probably did refer to "militant fundamental Islamic Jihadists" that way, ....."

No "probably" about it....

His precise words were: ""Many terrorists who kill innocent men, women, and children on the streets of Baghdad are followers of the same murderous ideology........"

The only conclusion one can reach, is that these "Jihadist" lunatics follow a "murderous ideology"...

Pretty plain talk...for a President....

Semper Fi

24 posted on 07/01/2005 10:53:38 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

And thanks for your service in the USMC.


25 posted on 07/01/2005 11:11:55 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: river rat; All
Islam, The Alleged Religion of Peace® ( TARP™ )? Click this picture:

No, I am not exaggerating. Click the pic, go to "last," and read backwards.
If you are not informed about this stuff, you will be made sick. If you are informed, you will be made mad, all over again.

26 posted on 07/01/2005 11:14:37 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: river rat

""""Moderate Muslims"

Now THAT is a term I'm still looking to have defined!"""

Aren't those the ones who don't participate but merely cheer on the militant fundamental Islamic Jihadists?


27 posted on 07/01/2005 11:26:41 AM PDT by RedwineisJesus
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To: river rat

Interesting! I hope he sticks to it!


28 posted on 07/01/2005 11:27:48 AM PDT by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: river rat

I also hope he figures out that the DNC is a murderous ideology too.


29 posted on 07/01/2005 11:28:16 AM PDT by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: RedwineisJesus

lol, it's not funny, but...


30 posted on 07/01/2005 11:28:50 AM PDT by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: Terriergal

Judging from the new friendship he and his dad are having with Clinton ........ I doubt it..

Semper Fi


31 posted on 07/01/2005 11:32:21 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat
Judging from the new friendship he and his dad are having with Clinton ........ I doubt it..

Yeah. At best it's that same idea that so many people fall for "I'm gonna date the bad boy/girl in hopes I can change him/her."

32 posted on 07/01/2005 11:35:13 AM PDT by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: Terriergal
I learned early in life, play with snakes - get bit.

Actually -- everything I ever REALLY needed to learn - I learned in Kindergarten!

Semper Fi
33 posted on 07/01/2005 11:37:38 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

"""I never inferred he attacked all Muslims....many of whom are our allies and are dieing in larger numbers that we are.."""

I wonder how many are doing it strictly for money. 97%? 99??


34 posted on 07/01/2005 11:57:43 AM PDT by RedwineisJesus
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To: river rat

Yes, but to jump from that to Islam is a "murderous ideology" is a huge stretch.

Huge. The "murderous ideology" is terrorism, which he carefully separate din the past from Islam. You can't read anything else into it until he's a lot clearer than that.

Wishful thinking, my friend. That's the only evidence you have.


35 posted on 07/01/2005 1:27:59 PM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: highball
"Yes, but to jump from that to Islam is a "murderous ideology" is a huge stretch."

Not so huge as you believe...

For "evidence" one need only follow the border between Islam and non-Islam and find violence and blood shed..

If history and the current state of affairs have not been sufficient to concern you about the INHERENT violence TAUGHT by Islam -- it is not evidence you looking for.

Terrorism is NOT an Ideology.....Terrorism is the strategy and campaign for domination used by militant fundamental Islamist Jihadists to achieve their goal of domination.....

It is THAT form of Islam that is a MURDEROUS IDEOLOGY..

Semper Fi

36 posted on 07/01/2005 7:53:37 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

That's just not the point.

The point is that people are trying to pretend that President Bush called Islam a "murderous ideology."

Which is patently false. *That's* the stretch to which I was referring.


37 posted on 07/01/2005 8:10:13 PM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: highball
President Bush, asserted:
Terrorists, (Using Islam and the Koran as JUSTIFICATION) are practicing a "Murderous Ideology"

I don't think anyone believes ALL Muslims are terrorists, or that Islam is irretrievably lost to the lunatics using Terrorism to forward their goals....of world domination....

But you're correct on the point that President Bush didn't call ISLAM a "murderous ideology".......just the FORM OF ISLAM practiced by the large number of lunatics in their midst...

Not all Germans were Nazis.....but it took the virtual destruction of Germany to end the Nazi terror..

Semper Fi

38 posted on 07/01/2005 8:47:38 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

You and I are in agreement, sir.

But there *are* people who actually think that Islam itself is an inherently murderous ideology - this thread was started by one.


39 posted on 07/01/2005 9:05:37 PM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: highball

I started this thread....

And I do believe that at LEAST the Wahhabi sect of Islam -- home front Saudi Arabi -- offers a lot more evidence of being an "inherently murderous ideology" -- than a religion of peace or tolerance.

Semper Fi


40 posted on 07/01/2005 9:40:47 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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