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BBC: Iran victor 'kidnap role' probe ~~ The US says it is examining reports....
BBC ^ | : Thursday, 30 June, 2005, 15:11 GMT 16:11 UK | staff

Posted on 06/30/2005 2:37:13 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Iran victor 'kidnap role' probe

Takeover of the US embassy in 1979

The president denies being among the hostage-takers

The US says it is examining reports that Iranian President-elect Mahmoud Ahmadinejad took part in the 1979 hostage-taking at Tehran's US embassy.

Some of the former US hostages have said they recognise Mr Ahmadinejad as one of their captors.

But three Iranians involved in the action, as well as Mr Ahmadinejad's own staff, have denied that he took part.

Mohsen Mirdamadi, the hostage-takers' leader, told the BBC that the new president had not been there.

You could make him a blond and shave his whiskers, put him in a zoot suit and I'd still spot him

Former US hostage Chuck Scott

Another top student leader, Abbas Abdi, also denied the allegations as did Hamid Reza Jalaiepour, a third hostage-taker.

The BBC's Frances Harrison in Tehran says the three former students are now reformists who oppose hardliners like Mr Ahmadinejad, and would have no reason to hide his involvement now.

Questions raised

Photographs have appeared on the internet showing a young bearded man leading a blindfolded American hostage - alleging that this was Mr Ahmadinejad a quarter of a century ago.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

US hostages differ over whether the new president was their captor

But the man in the photograph appears much taller than Mr Ahmadinejad, and looks nothing like other pictures of him as a student which can be found on his website, Frances Harrison says.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the allegations should be taken seriously.

"I think the news reports and statements from several former American hostages raise many questions about his past," he said.

"We take them very seriously and we are looking into them to better understand the facts."

One former hostage said he was sure the man was Mr Ahmadinejad.

"This is the guy," retired army colonel Chuck Scott told AP news agency.

"There's no question about it. You could make him a blond and shave his whiskers, put him in a zoot suit and I'd still spot him."

Four other former hostages agreed with Mr Scott, but at least one disagrees.

A total of 52 US citizens were taken hostage after a group of young activists climbed over the embassy wall during the Islamic Revolution, which overthrew the Shah and brought Ayatollah Khomeini to power.



TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; iran; iranianelection; jimmycarter; mahmoudahmadinejad; mullahloversonfr; tehran; waronterror
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It's getting official now!
1 posted on 06/30/2005 2:37:13 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

THIS picture shows it.

It's not the guy right holding the hostages arm. It's the guy to the far right.


2 posted on 06/30/2005 2:38:21 PM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: nuffsenuff

I'll be damned you're right.


3 posted on 06/30/2005 2:40:01 PM PDT by Dog (As Iraqi 's stand up, America will stand down.-- - - - President Bush)
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To: Dog

The media has be PURPOSEFULLY showing a cropped picture.


4 posted on 06/30/2005 2:41:05 PM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: Dog

Anyone have a hotline to freepers with ping lists.

This needs to be spread around.

The new Iranian President is one of the hostage takers and the media has been showing a cropped picture that doesn't show it.

Hook it up!


5 posted on 06/30/2005 2:43:29 PM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: nuffsenuff; Dog
On this thread the group is focusing on the guy hold the hostages left arm:

AP Photo shows Iran’s new President as 1979 US hostage-taker

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Wednesday, 29th June 2005

Iran Focus

London, Jun. 29 - Iran Focus has learnt that the photograph of Iran’s newly-elected president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, holding the arm of a blindfolded American hostage on the premises of the United States embassy in Tehran was taken by an Associated Press photographer in November 1979.

6 posted on 06/30/2005 2:44:19 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: nuffsenuff

try keyword pinglist.


7 posted on 06/30/2005 2:44:55 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Your HONOR STUDENT is merely a pawn in my pugs plot for world domination. :o))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

They've got the wrong guy circled. It's the guy next to him.


8 posted on 06/30/2005 2:45:07 PM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: nuffsenuff; Grampa Dave; Brad's Gramma; NormsRevenge
The media has be PURPOSEFULLY showing a cropped picture.

Now wouldn't that be something!

9 posted on 06/30/2005 2:46:14 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: K4Harty

I don't know what you mean.

I've never mastered this art of navigating this site.


10 posted on 06/30/2005 2:46:33 PM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

No Ernest its the guy in the blazer with the dark turtle neck.


11 posted on 06/30/2005 2:46:33 PM PDT by Dog (As Iraqi 's stand up, America will stand down.-- - - - President Bush)
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To: nuffsenuff

It's definitely not the guy holding the hostage's arm. But you're right, it may well be the other one, further to the viewer's right, who appears in another picture (shown on another thread) to have a very similar profile.

Question: was the one of the viewer's far right actually one of the hostage takers? Or was he a negotiator of some sort? We've got to make sure we've got our facts straight


12 posted on 06/30/2005 2:48:24 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

You're joking, right?


13 posted on 06/30/2005 2:49:57 PM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: nuffsenuff
Try this Ping List
14 posted on 06/30/2005 2:51:05 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Your HONOR STUDENT is merely a pawn in my pugs plot for world domination. :o))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Seems unlikely, given the profiles:



See here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1434095/posts
15 posted on 06/30/2005 2:51:56 PM PDT by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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Damn, I am good. I was 18 at the time and incensed enough to have that picture engrained in my mind. I told my wife as soon as I saw that guy that he was one of the original terrorists who took the hostages.

The hostages must be outraged. It brings back helpless memories of what we were then, a paper tiger.

You have to keep in perspective that it wasn't that we were made helpless by terrorists but by an actual country of terrorists...and we did little.

Thank God for Ronald Reagan - as he righted that ship.


16 posted on 06/30/2005 2:52:14 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: nuffsenuff

You mean like when Time cropped out Protest Warriors to try to make them look like anti-Coulter protesters?

I still can't believe a bigger stink was not made of that.


17 posted on 06/30/2005 2:53:15 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: orionblamblam

In the photo above... the guy NEXT to the guy holding the hostages arm.

THAT'S the new President of Iran.

I'm sure of it.


18 posted on 06/30/2005 2:53:35 PM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: livius; nuffsenuff; Dog
I think there may be some semantic games being played....

He might have just been a planner, not actually ONE of the

The hairline of the guy in the turtle-neck matches better with the second photo in the BBC second picture,.

19 posted on 06/30/2005 2:53:53 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: nuffsenuff; F14 Pilot; Ernest_at_the_Beach


"It's not the guy right holding the hostages arm. It's the guy to the far right."

Wow, I think that you are right. The guy holding the arm of our guy is probably a straight nosed cousin.



20 posted on 06/30/2005 2:54:49 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 5 decades.)
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