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Seinfeld Liberals
The American Thinker ^ | 6/26/05 | Ed Lasky

Posted on 06/27/2005 7:58:15 AM PDT by Kitten Festival

Seinfeld was a television marvel. Perhaps the most successful situation comedy series of all time, it ran from 1989 to 1998, and has become an omnipresent aspect of our lives as it continually runs in syndication and lives on in best-selling DVD box sets, making fortunes in the hundred millions for both of its co-creators.

But there is yet another facet of Seinfeld at which we can marvel: the cast of characters on the show weirdly foreshadowed the rise to prominence of a large component of the dominant urban liberal wing of the Democratic Party. With a nod to Brian Anderson’s South Park Conservatives and a quick glance backward at yesterday’s Matt Bai New York Times Magazine article King of the Hill Democrats, let us join the craze for television series politics, and call them Seinfeld Liberals.

Their emergence has not been beneficial for our nation.

Hollywood has long provided role models and templates for Americans – just as books and stories always have (Washington and the Cherry tree, Abe Lincoln studying by candle, the always-inventive Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Edison, the heroic obstinacy of U.S. Grant and George Patton).

In recent decades, a certain cynicism about the character of Americans seems to have taken hold, at least in the filmed and televised entertainment we see.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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To: Lancey Howard
Harris was great. I loved it when they were dressing as women to lure purse snatchers, and Harris resists for as long as possible because he doesn't want to shave his mustache. Finally he does, and comes gliding in all dressed up as a lady, looking very chic. When everyone starts fussing over him, he becomes offended.

"I want to look good... not better!"

121 posted on 06/27/2005 1:18:00 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Kirkwood

"With the possible exception of Elaine, none of the characters would bother to go out and vote."

Didn't George's father refuse to vote because he was a naturalized American, was disqualified from being President and, in protest, refused to participate in the process?


122 posted on 06/27/2005 1:22:42 PM PDT by Airborne1986 (Well, you can do what you want to us. But we're not going to sit here while you badmouth the U.S.A.)
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To: A_perfect_lady
.....Look, I know they weren't trying to give the message that you should leave cats to die in abandoned apartments. But they told that little story like it was funny and I just didn't find it amusing. I guess I just don't have that kind of a sense of humor......

I agree. I love love love Seinfeld, too, but that was not funny. Neither was the one where Elaine is annoyed with a yappy little dog in here courtyard so Newman and Kramer steal it and dump in out in the country or something. I love Seinfeld and I'm a nit picker, too. I just was bothered by that.
123 posted on 06/27/2005 1:23:59 PM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: Kitten Festival
With a nod to Brian Anderson’s South Park Conservatives and a quick glance backward at yesterday’s Matt Bai New York Times Magazine article King of the Hill Democrats, let us join the craze for television series politics, and call them Seinfeld Liberals.

Coming tomorrow: CSI: Miami Socially Conservative Fiscally Liberal Democrats that are pro-Life and Law and Order: Criminal Intent pro-choice libertarians.

124 posted on 06/27/2005 1:27:33 PM PDT by Koblenz (Holland: a very tolerant country. Until someone shoots you on a public street in broad daylight...)
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To: A_perfect_lady

....and you want to be my latex salesman?


125 posted on 06/27/2005 1:50:20 PM PDT by Cagey
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To: Kirkwood
Kramer would tell everyone to vote, but then forget to do so himself.

A great episode was when Kramer took part in the AIDS walk. He refused to wear the ribbon and was beaten up by a gay gang.

126 posted on 06/27/2005 2:05:20 PM PDT by feedback doctor (If you won't love the least of people, then you can't love any people)
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To: Cagey

The interaction between Kramer and Frank were some incredible moments. The "Bro" vs the "Man-sierre" debate was a comedy classic.

And whenever things get overwhelming at the office I scream out "Serenity now!!!"

If the show had gone political, it would never have been the success it became.


127 posted on 06/27/2005 2:08:44 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Sprite518

Curb Your Enthusiasm is a great show.

It's interesting that you didn't like Seinfeld that much but like Curb.

I did really enjoy Seinfeld when it was ON. Once it went into syndication, I wasn't as entertained, but then I only like watching the Simpsons over and over.

But if someone can't watch Seinfeld, Curb or Simpsons or South Park or King of the Hill(at least one of them) then there is something wrong with their sense of humor.


128 posted on 06/27/2005 2:18:26 PM PDT by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: Kitten Festival
Gee whillikers. Sometimes a TV show is just....a TV show.

Sounds like the guy was hard up for am article and took off after the NT Times piece, which I thought was pretty good - original at least.

I always saw the show as masterful irony and wonderful character development. Great casting (even the extras and occasionals - Uncle Leo, Soup Nazi. Johnny Cochran) and great writing.

Liberal archetypes? Puhleeze.

129 posted on 06/27/2005 2:58:51 PM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: altura
the trouble of actually reading the article, as obviously most posters on this thread didn't.

I got through 2/3 of it. The secret of good writing is to make your point in the first paragraph or two. This article rambles all over the place. Too long by half for the subject and unorganized. I would give it a C-.

130 posted on 06/27/2005 3:02:37 PM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: Baynative
Seinfeld seemed to mock liberals more than it promoted them.

The "Not that there's anything wrong with that" episode quite exposed the middle-minded liberals' devotion to political correctness as superficial and self-serving.

131 posted on 06/27/2005 3:18:51 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (Be not Afraid. "Perfect love drives out fear.")
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To: Dumb_Ox

132 posted on 06/27/2005 3:22:30 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Antonello
Is it just me, or is there currently a popular trend to try to divine political overtones in everything these days?

Can't we just accept that not all shows have hidden agendas and enjoy them (or not) for what they are?

Trendspotting is as silly and unproductive as trainspotting, yes, but if we didn't have diversions like these then the internet would start to have a positive effect on workplace productivity, and more people would lose their paying jobs.

But your post reminds me of this exchange in Whit Stillman's film Barcelona:

Fred: Maybe you can clarify something for me. Since I've been, you know, waiting for the fleet to show up, I've read a lot, and...
Ted: Really?
Fred: And one of the things that keeps popping up is this about "subtext." Plays, novels, songs - they all have a "subtext," which I take to mean a hidden message or import of some kind. So subtext we know. But what do you call the message or meaning that's right there on the surface, completely open and obvious? They never talk about that. What do you call what's above the subtext?
Ted: The text.
Fred: OK, that's right, but they never talk about that.

133 posted on 06/27/2005 3:25:41 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (Be not Afraid. "Perfect love drives out fear.")
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To: Kirkwood

Oh yeah without a doubt.


134 posted on 06/27/2005 3:25:49 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Kitten Festival

I'd post but I'm into my nightly three episodes of Seinfeld and a half hour of the BBC feed.

Larry David should donate his brain to science.


135 posted on 06/27/2005 3:31:18 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: RockinRight

I loved Seinfeld and I'm no liberal...

I liked it too, because it was about ...... nothing.


136 posted on 06/27/2005 3:32:24 PM PDT by moog
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To: OldArmy94

the Seinfeld characters are setup to be MOCKED for their shallow, hypocritical values.

That's one thing that made it funny.


137 posted on 06/27/2005 3:33:22 PM PDT by moog
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To: dsc

I've been a Michael Richards fan...

Yes, I think he was what made the show, the outsider loony with 3 neurotics.


138 posted on 06/27/2005 3:34:21 PM PDT by moog
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To: Kitten Festival

Someone's been licking too many stamps.


139 posted on 06/27/2005 3:37:53 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: cloud8

Taxi?

Taxi had some loveable characters too. Character development has become even more shallow with the "reality" show craze. I liked a lot of 80's sitcoms too. We loved watching the Dukes of Hazard and the A team.


140 posted on 06/27/2005 3:38:30 PM PDT by moog
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