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I've loved Rev Graham my ENTIRE life..I grew up around his revivals and attended many in my childhood and adult life..... I dont know if I'll ever get over his remarks about the clintons...I feel so betrayed by him.....guess we just never know.... its really sad for me...
1 posted on 06/26/2005 4:18:22 PM PDT by SuthrnGirl
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How bizarre. That's all I can say.


2 posted on 06/26/2005 4:19:58 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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shameless pandering.


4 posted on 06/26/2005 4:22:39 PM PDT by Brilliant
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The only way I can deal with it is to assume his age has affected his judgement and his mind - and to reflect instead on the wonderful ministry he had in his younger days.....


5 posted on 06/26/2005 4:24:35 PM PDT by Momto2
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Please pardon me while I retch!


6 posted on 06/26/2005 4:25:14 PM PDT by Knute (W- Still the President!)
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Yeah, this makes me sad, too. The H.W.s inviting him to Kennebunkport this summer makes me sadder. Or maybe just madder. Whatever, trying to make this jackass into a champion steed is just pathetic.


7 posted on 06/26/2005 4:26:03 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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Please!! You forgot the BARF ALERT!! in the title


8 posted on 06/26/2005 4:26:07 PM PDT by Babu
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LEGACY HIJACK ALERT!!

10 posted on 06/26/2005 4:38:18 PM PDT by spycatcher
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I used to really respect Billy Graham. But after his remarks about the Klintoons I really don't know what to think now. Maybe his cheese has slid off his crackers.


11 posted on 06/26/2005 4:38:20 PM PDT by stm
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I dont know if I'll ever get over his remarks about the clintons

Yeah, that's just so un-Christian-like to accept someone regardless of their flaws...

12 posted on 06/26/2005 4:39:21 PM PDT by Living Free in NH
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What was not reported here was that both Clintons were "booed" when they were introduced that night. Maybe someone could find the link where the "booed" is reported. Clintons can't stay away from the camera. Whatever event to elevate their image, they will be there.
14 posted on 06/26/2005 4:41:03 PM PDT by Random Nonsense
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ABC news reported the lead in story as "Good friends of Rev Graham", the Clintons ....."

Just another step by Hillary, promoted by MSM to further paint her as just a simple Christian woman with morale values....

Barf!


15 posted on 06/26/2005 4:42:42 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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At the end of the sermon, Bubba placed a cigar where 'the sun don't shine' as a sign of gratitude for recommending Hillary as Pres.


16 posted on 06/26/2005 4:46:04 PM PDT by NathanBookman
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Bill Clinton has charm. I'm sure the friendship with the Clintons is mainly personal. And he was called tou counsel after the Monica fiasco. Some bond surely was built and I think he threw the line in about Hillary as a light aside. Pandering yes, but this in no way takes away from Billy Grahm's legacy. He has counseled presidents from both sides of the political aisle and he has done more to bring people to Christ than any man in the last century. THIS AINT POLITICAL!


21 posted on 06/26/2005 5:04:35 PM PDT by Cat loving Texan
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"Clinton Honors Graham at Final Revival"
Yahoo ^ | 6-26-05

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OPINION: The Clintons are not capable of honoring Billy Graham.



22 posted on 06/26/2005 5:17:11 PM PDT by Cindy
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"...a man I love."

Well, thay....

24 posted on 06/26/2005 5:20:31 PM PDT by onedoug
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As Christians we must pray for bill and HilaryCare's Salvation. Only Jesus can change them from within and we cannot judge Billy Grahm's judgement on this. God works in mysterious ways.

Pray for W and Our Troops

26 posted on 06/26/2005 5:34:49 PM PDT by bray (Pray for Iraq's Freedom from Mohammad)
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What do the Klanton's have to do with Billy Graham and his last crusade? Nothing except they found another way to hijack some one else's spotlight and spin it for their own purposes. These two are lower than the low. Despicable.


28 posted on 06/26/2005 5:37:18 PM PDT by Max Flatow
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I think I'm gonna upchuck.......


37 posted on 06/26/2005 6:45:08 PM PDT by Viking2002 (I'm the white Christian that Howeird Dean warned you about.)
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To: SuthrnGirl; TurtleStink; stm; gaspar
March 17, 1998

Forgiveness is tricky business

The Reverend Billy Graham made an appearance on the Today show a couple of weeks ago. Possibly, he scandalized more than a few of the people he’s attracted over the many decades he has been preaching.

He said he forgives President Clinton. That’s because, "I know the frailty of human nature . . . . He has such a tremendous personality that I think the ladies just go wild over him." Mr. Graham finished this comment with a chuckle.

One guy who wasn’t chuckling was former drug czar and education secretary Bill Bennett. He objected to the reverend’s readiness to forgive with a "cheap grace."

Asked Bennett: "Billy Graham forgives him for what? What has the president admitted to doing? Billy Graham forgives him for something the president has denied in his deposition he has ever done."

That’s certainly true. Bill Clinton says no about Monica and no about Kathleen and no about Paula and no about Dolly and no about every other woman he’s been asked about. Well, except for Gennifer and maybe we shouldn’t even count that because, after all, he did say no about her for years.

To my knowledge the president hasn’t accepted responsibility for real estate scams or travel office firings or FBI files or anything else. So I wonder if Billy Graham’s forgiveness covers everything or only the sins caused by that tremendous personality that makes the ladies just go wild.

Bennett went on to point out that forgiveness usually comes after acknowledgement of one’s sins and repentance. I’m not too familiar with Protestantism, but I think Protestants believe that only God can forgive sins.

The Catholic Church, of course, has the sacrament of penance and reconciliation in which a priest may absolve penitents from their sins. Except in emergencies, this usually requires a confession of the sins.

Bennett’s bewilderment (if I may use a word the president’s spin-doctors appear to have a monopoly on) is understandable. What the heck was Billy Graham doing? There’s no admission of wrongdoing, so there’s nothing to forgive. Even if there were, it’s up to God to do the forgiving. Unless Mr. Clinton converts to Catholicism and I doubt the Pope’s praying for that.

All the Reverend Graham’s done is cause confusion and provide some wandering husbands with a ready-made excuse. Yes, dear, it’s just like Billy Graham says about how frail we human beings are. And I do have this tremendous personality that makes the ladies go wild.

If Mr. Graham is intent on forgiving a president he should do it for one who’s personally wronged him. Harry S. Truman will do. He wasn’t known for his tactfulness and one day he really unloaded on the subject of – Billy Graham!

"But now we’ve got this one evangelist, this Billy Graham, and he’s gone off the beam. He’s . . . .well, I hadn’t ought to say this, but he’s one of those counterfeits I was telling you about. He claims he’s a friend of all the Presidents, but he was never a friend of mine when I was President. I just don’t go for people like that. All he’s interested in is getting his name in the paper."

That’s pretty harsh. But it’s a transgression Billy Graham can actually forgive.

Whenever you get into a discussion of morality and sins and such you take the risk of being accused of trying to be holier-than-thou. We’re all sinners – some of us much worse than others - and we all need forgiveness: the forgiveness of those we’ve hurt and the forgiveness of a loving God.

That must ultimately come from a Higher Authority. Forgiveness by Mr. Graham for unacknowledged sins may help in the polls, but that’s about it.

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

38 posted on 06/26/2005 6:49:55 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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Im honestly at a loss for words - and can only attribute this to Alzhiemers


40 posted on 06/26/2005 7:10:39 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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