Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


1 posted on 06/26/2005 12:29:13 PM PDT by Halgr
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-28 next last
To: CHARLITE; tiamat

chicom ping


2 posted on 06/26/2005 12:32:25 PM PDT by King Prout (I'd say I missed ya, but that'd be untrue... I NEVER MISS)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Halgr

"...could lead it to use military force to seize territory with oil and gas resources." Or just buy it up with all their Wal-Mart bucks!


3 posted on 06/26/2005 12:33:56 PM PDT by vger (freeping since '97!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Halgr

They will attack, and we won't do a darn thing about it. Maybe some sactions, but that's about it.


4 posted on 06/26/2005 12:34:23 PM PDT by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Halgr

If they are building-up to acquire resources, then folks in eastern Russia and Southeast Asia should start getting nervous. The PRC wants the ROC for political/nationalist reasons. As for resources, the PRC has long had it eye on the rest of the continent of Asia and the western Pacific.


7 posted on 06/26/2005 12:40:26 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Halgr
The 2008 Olympics are scheduled to be in China. There is no way the commies are going to do anything to upset the Olympics games going to Beijing in 08.
9 posted on 06/26/2005 12:40:51 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Halgr
"The combination of a vibrant centralized economy, growing military and increasingly fervent nationalism has transformed China into what many defense officials view as a fascist state."

...some free business but most business and media controlled by the socialist state. Remember fascism in certain countries before WWII. Well, it's about time that we see more of the truth. ...more to come and more fascist states involved.
13 posted on 06/26/2005 12:47:06 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Halgr; GOP_1900AD; Uncle George; mudblood; AnimalLover; hedgetrimmer; John Lenin; AnnaZ; zzen01; ...

Golitysn's predictions are coming to pass in spades:

Taken from Anatoly Golistyn’s book “Perestroika Deception”, 1995 (pp. 149-151)

Memorandum to the CIA: March 26, 1992

GEOPOLITICAL STRATEGIES OF RUSSIA, THE ‘COMMONWEALTH OF INDEPENDENT STATES’ AND CHINA…

In an earlier Memorandum to the CIA this analyst explained the common Sino-Soviet strategy of convergence with the West and the intended exploitation for the purposes of this strategy of the new openings arising from the ‘reformed’ political structure of the former USSR and the emergence of the alleged ‘democrats’, ‘non-Communists’ and ‘independents’ who are running it.

The present assessment show how, because of Western ignorance of and confusion about the strategy underlying ‘perestroika’ and because of Western political and economic support for the so-called reform of the Soviet system, the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) has been successfully installed and has begun to carry out concrete new geopolitical strategies within the framework of the long-standing overall Communist strategy of convergence.

These strategies are still being guided and coordinated by the same Soviet strategists who have simply shifted away from the use of the old worn-out ideology and the familiar but obsolete patterns, to the exploitation of geopolitical factors and of the new potentialities of the ‘reformed’ Communist system. The common feature of these geopolitical strategies is the manipulation and use of the ‘democratic’ and ‘independent’ images which the change in form from the USSR to the CIS and its individual members has provided so abundantly and the nature of which the West has, so far, failed to comprehend.

The following upgraded strategies may be distinguished:

THE FIRST STRATEGY involves the CIS and Russia in particular dealing directly with longstanding American allies like Germany and Japan and causing their allegiance to be shifted away from the United States towards economic and political alliance with the CIS and especially with Russia.

To this end Russia is exploiting American economic rivalry with Germany and Japan, together with the large-scale involvement of Germany and Japan in economic cooperation with Russia and the offer to them of lucrative market and investment opportunities in Russia. China can be expected to join in this campaign to steal away old American allies by concentrating on offering the Japanese various investment opportunities in China.

A SECOND UPGRADED STRATEGY involves the use of the new ‘independent’ Muslim states in the CIS to establish and develop economic and political cooperation with the fundamentalists in Iran and elsewhere in the Muslim world.

According to this assessment the much-advertised feud between the Armenians and the Azerbaijanis of Turkish descent in Nagorno-Karabakh may be a tactical ploy to involve Turkey, Iran and other Muslim countries in support of eventual alliance with Azerbaijan and other Central Asian Muslim states in the CIS. This strategy takes into account the growing power of the fundamentalists and the possibility of their gaining control over substantial oil reserves.

A primary objective of the strategy here is to achieve a partnership with the fundamentalists in Iran and Algeria and to replace the present American-Oriented rulers of Saudi Arabia with fundamentalists. The opening in Saudi Arabia of a Russian Embassy and the probable opening of Embassies by Muslim states of the CIS (read: Russian puppet governments) should be seen, not only as an attempt to extract a few extra Saudi Billions, but as part of an offensive to bring about a political reorientation in that country.

Chinese Muslims can also be expected to play an active role in promoting alliances with the fundamentalists. The supply of missiles to Iran by the Chinese should be looked at in the context of this strategy.

THE THIRD STRATEGY is to facilitate a shift of the emerging regime in South Africa from the Western sphere of influence towards close economic and political cooperation and alliance with the CIS using for this purpose old friendships with the leaders of the African National Congress and the South African Communist Party with which it is effectively merged. One can expect that the offensive to facilitate such a partnership will become more active and more visible than ever, after the ‘reforms’ in the CIS and South Africa have stabilized.

THE FOURTH STRATEGY is that of using and manipulating the changes in the former Soviet Union to bring about, in the longer run, radical changes in relations between the United States and Israel, in the political power structure in Israel itself, in Israel’s position in the Middle East and in world opinion towards Israel.

The fact that the new leaders in Russia have promised the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Germany, the Baltic countries and Poland, and that they are insisting on a seven-year term for the strategic arms reduction treaty being negotiated with the United States, are indications that the Russian strategists have their own timetable. This is not based on what is going to occur in the CIS according to the optimistic expectations of Western observers, but rather upon the Soviet estimate of the time needed for the strategies described above to take effect. The possibility that the United States will lose valuable allies during this period is not something new. There is nothing permanent in international relations. The Americans experienced this not so long ago when they “suddenly” lost Iran.

The vulnerability of the United States arises from the fact that its basic premises, assumptions and perceptions about the present and future Russia and the CIS are wrong. Where the United States sees golden opportunities, it is in reality facing traps set for it by the Soviet long-range strategists. The impact on the United States of the successful execution of these strategies would be devastating.

The loss of old allies and the loss of oil reserves, following the equally catastrophic loss of South Africa, would result in the re-emergence of the CIS and China as stronger adversaries, and in an ‘irreversible’ change in the balance of world power in their favor. The United States would be weakened and divided and the pressure for the impetus towards convergence of the CIS and China with the United States on Sino-Russian terms would be intensified.


15 posted on 06/26/2005 12:52:37 PM PDT by BringBackMyHUAC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Halgr

Welllllllllll, Doh!

Nice some people are waking up. I would that it were the ones who counted, however.

Sadly, the puppet masters have evidently decided that the USA's power must be removed in order for the world government to have unrivaled power.


18 posted on 06/26/2005 12:58:39 PM PDT by Quix (LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Halgr

Well, you know it would be the height of irony (and damn funny too) if Taiwan were to pony up enough cash to buy some of Kim Jong Il's nuclear warheads, mount them on some No-Dong missiles (also one of Kim's exports), and then inform Beijing "you wanna invade? go ahead - make our nuclear day!"


19 posted on 06/26/2005 1:05:17 PM PDT by Mad Mammoth
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Halgr

Maybe an asteroid will hit Beijing.


24 posted on 06/26/2005 1:10:39 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: backhoe; piasa; Godzilla; All
ON THE NET...

WASHINGTON TIMES.com - Special Report: "CHINESE DRAGON AWAKENS" by Bill Gertz - Page 1 (June 26, 2005) (Read More...)

WASHINGTON TIMES.com - Special Report: "CHINESE DRAGON AWAKENS" by Bill Gertz - Page 2 (June 26, 2005) (Read More...)

WorldNetDaily.com: 'CHINA'S NEW MISSILE 'WARNING TO U.S.' Taiwan Military Experts say America Should Take Notice" (June 20, 2005) (Read More...)

NEWSMAX.com: "CHINESE SPACE ESPIONAGE Hughes Network Systems Barred by State Department" -Column by Charles R. Smith (June 20, 2005) (Read More...)

Note: Post No. 1439 and Post No.1440 on FREEREPUBLIC.com regarding China (June 16, 2005) (Read More...)

25 posted on 06/26/2005 1:17:33 PM PDT by Cindy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Halgr

I hafta wonder if George B will demand that the sea lanes stay open from China to Wal-Mart...


26 posted on 06/26/2005 1:18:26 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Jeff Head; TigerLikesRooster; Tailgunner Joe

ping


29 posted on 06/26/2005 1:26:01 PM PDT by Wiz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Halgr

Who was President of the United States in the mid-90s...oh yeah...Slick Willie...thanks a lot, Bubba...


32 posted on 06/26/2005 1:33:56 PM PDT by RockinRight (Conservatism is common sense, liberalism is just senseless.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

bflr


35 posted on 06/26/2005 2:28:18 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Halgr
"The Bulletin" (http://www.thebulletin.org/article.php?art_ofn=mj05lewis) disagrees with the Washington Times info. I don't know anything about The Bulletin or its reporting -- can anyone weigh in on this?
36 posted on 06/26/2005 3:02:20 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Halgr

How strong are the Taiwanese forces to repel a Chinese assault? Do they have a decent air force? Is there a militia of Taiwanese people who could defend the beaches and fight on the land?


40 posted on 06/26/2005 3:34:30 PM PDT by tellw
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Halgr; All

I would like to ask the free-traders on this forum: How can a country, theoretically, have any military leverage over a second country that is beginning to control the first country's industry?


47 posted on 06/26/2005 8:35:27 PM PDT by anticommunist8
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Halgr
"Let's all wake up. The post-Cold War peace is over," Mr. Fisher said. "We are now in an arms race with a new superpower whose goal is to contain and overtake the United States."

And the answer is for us to ship even more technology and manufacturing infrastructure to the Chicoms than is already there.

Incredible.

56 posted on 06/26/2005 11:15:38 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Halgr
China just announced the slogan their Olympics "One World One Dream"

Think about it.....
65 posted on 06/27/2005 7:25:11 AM PDT by FlatLandBeer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-28 next last

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson