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Rudy is brilliant. He writes as though he is sixteen going on forty-seven.........at least!
1 posted on 06/25/2005 6:19:52 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

this kid is brilliant.
thanks for posting.


2 posted on 06/25/2005 6:24:44 PM PDT by King Prout (I'd say I missed ya, but that'd be untrue... I NEVER MISS)
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To: CHARLITE

Is a Supreme Court seat property? In the public interest I nominate Ginsburg as the first one to lose it in favor of this kid. ( With the just compensation of a swift kick in the ass for all her fine work! )


3 posted on 06/25/2005 6:38:51 PM PDT by Nateman (Just deserts for a so called justice.)
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To: zot; Interesting Times; Former Military Chick; Hurtgen

Ping


4 posted on 06/25/2005 6:39:52 PM PDT by GreyFriar (3rd Armored Division -- Spearhead)
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To: CHARLITE

I've seen property as discussed in this thread and others include intellectual property, i.e. copyrights and patents. Wouldn't another form of property be my bank account? After all, it's just a place I store my "property" in a form that's easily accessible and transferrable.

So, does the recent decision by SCOTUS mean that my financial property can be seized and given to some other giant account simply because the government can obtain more taxes from a larger account than they can from my small pittance?

If that is so, then what? Communistic "redistribution" of my wealth...my "property" that I worked my lifetime to accumulate?

Curious minds wanna know?

Heartbroken in Arizona


5 posted on 06/25/2005 6:42:26 PM PDT by Arizona Pard (What form does property take?)
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To: CHARLITE
The senile trash who believe they've been endowed with a divine right to singularly mold the course of the world have driven another nail into the coffin of American freedom. My congratulations go out to Justices Stevens, Bader, Souter, Ginsburg and Breyer. You've proven that rights don't proceed from God. They proceed from you.

Someone needs to take out the trash....

6 posted on 06/25/2005 6:46:38 PM PDT by Podkayne (Islam is a lie. Allah is not Jehovah. Burkas are evil.)
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To: CHARLITE
The senile trash

BAM!

8 posted on 06/25/2005 7:00:47 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: CHARLITE

It's high time that we have some justices STEP down and Bush REACH down, grab a pair and make some recess appointments!!!


9 posted on 06/25/2005 7:01:33 PM PDT by Rocketwolf68
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To: CHARLITE
We have sown the seeds for the last 30 years for the liberal whirlwind and now it is coming to pass. Not since Dredd Scott has America been enslaved by judicial idiots.

Sadly we will see how corrupt our local governments are. I predict a property boom in the "red" states.
10 posted on 06/25/2005 7:03:18 PM PDT by American Vet Repairman
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To: CHARLITE

Senile trash and leftist morons.


11 posted on 06/25/2005 7:05:02 PM PDT by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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To: CHARLITE

The kid hit the nail right on the head, of course.

This court ruling disgusts me. They have basically eliminated all property rights with it. It is only a matter of time before they declare the Constitution itself to be unconstitutional. I sure wish that were a joke, but they are basically shredding everyone's rights bit by bit.


13 posted on 06/25/2005 7:26:05 PM PDT by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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To: CHARLITE

When I heard about this ruleling Ithought about "Dr. Zhivago" and how the family had all of their house except one room taken from them.


14 posted on 06/25/2005 7:29:01 PM PDT by fella ("Ya don work, Ya don eat. Savvy?")
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To: CHARLITE

Where were all of those moaning about this decision about 25 years ago?

Around 25 years ago the City of Detroit siezed an entire neighborhood in order to raze the houses and construct the GM Poletown plant.

That decision was finally overturned by the Michigan Supreme Court, but that was more than 20 years after the deed was done.

Obviously this kinda thing - siezing property for private enterprise - has been going on for a long time.


15 posted on 06/25/2005 7:32:58 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: CHARLITE

Communist Goals (1963)

Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35

January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals

EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Thursday, January 10, 1963



Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:

[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.


17 posted on 06/25/2005 7:34:01 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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Communist Manifesto

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rent to public purpose.
The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management

ADD this SCOTUS ruling.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance
We call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels
We call in government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
We call it the Federal Reserve which is a credit/debt system nationally organized by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC). This private bank has an exclusive monopoly in money creation which in reality has ended the need for revenue from taxes. So why do they tax? To FOOL YOU into thinking they need them.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the State
We call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) madated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of Transportation regulations. There is also the postal monopoly, AMTRACK and CONRAIL

7. Extention of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
We call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture. As well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Evironmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.

8. Equal liablity of all to labor. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
We call it the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000. And I almost forgot...The Equal Rights Amendment means that women should do all work that men do including the military and since passage it would make women subject to the draft.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.
We call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136.

10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.
People are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, which train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education" .


20 posted on 06/25/2005 7:37:12 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: LiteKeeper

marx ping


21 posted on 06/25/2005 7:37:46 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: CHARLITE
Of course, agents of the American government would do the same thing. If someone resists imprisonment, that person, too, will be shot and killed. The only difference between the Chinese and the Americans is that Americans are being more amenable to the demands of their government.
I STILL say 'the kid' writes like an amateur; too quick to reach for the hyperbole, but then again, he is 'writing' for a particular crowd and this work appears in WND ...

Any 'amateur' can use hyperbole for 'examples' to support his case, this guy needs some additional exposure and years of study to widen that range of examples he can choose from, and NOT instantly reach for the hyperbolic ...

24 posted on 06/25/2005 7:49:58 PM PDT by _Jim (<--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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26 posted on 06/25/2005 7:51:24 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: CHARLITE
Five Supremes will be in their 80's or 90's by 2016. Two more will be in their late seventies at that time. (I am excluding Rhenquist from this analysis.)

Whoever is president in '08 and '12 could appoint SEVEN supremes.

28 posted on 06/25/2005 7:52:32 PM PDT by gg188
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To: CHARLITE
Stevens defended the city, writing in the majority opinion: "The city has carefully formulated an economic development plan that it believes will provide appreciable benefits to the community, including -- but by no means limited to -- new jobs and increased tax revenue." In other words, individual rights take a backseat to economic planning. If the poor peasants aren't using their land as well as others might be able to use it, it can be taken away.

One thing the kid missed: Stevens and the city are operating under a belief in economic planning, the state religion in other words. God help us.

52 posted on 06/26/2005 2:15:09 AM PDT by metesky (This land is your land, this land is MY land; I bought the rights from a town selectman!)
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Rudy has it all backwards and upside-down. He writes:

"If the peasants sow the fields poorly, they should be helped – and this particularly applies to the poor peasants – by means of collective cultivation of the large estates. There is no other way of helping the poor peasants." Therefore, "the landed estates must be confiscated immediately."

But actually, in New Haven, didn't the opposite occur?

"If the LANDED ESTATES COVET the fields, they should be helped – and this particularly applies to the RICH GUYS – by means of collective cultivation of the SMALL estates. There is no other way of helping the RICH GUYS." Therefore, "the SMALL estates must be confiscated immediately."


53 posted on 06/26/2005 2:29:58 AM PDT by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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