Fortunately, this brave king stopped the Hun scourge.
Posted on 06/23/2005 12:03:03 PM PDT by blam
Archaeologists start digging for Hun settlements in Russia
LIPETSK, June 22 (RIA Novosti) - Major archaeological excavation work has started in the Lipetsk region's Zadonsk and Khlevnoye districts (Central Russia), where Hun settlements used to be in ancient times.
"Four archaeological expeditions, involving a hundred people each, have started excavation work on the banks of the Don and the Voronezh rivers on the sites of former settlements of the Huns," Mikhail Ryazantsev, an archaeologist at the State Department for Cultural Heritage Protection, told RIA Novosti.
The Huns were nomadic tribes between the second and fourth centuries A.D.
Experts of Lipetsk's Arkheolog scientific and social organization and Lipetsk State Educational University arranged the expeditions. Schoolchildren and students will assist the archaeologists.
Excavation work has been going on in this region since 1995. Archaeologists have found bone artifacts dating back seven thousand years and bone-carving workshops from the Iron Age. A Scythian settlement, the furthest north ever found, and a Slav settlement dating back to the fifth century A.D. were also discovered. Moreover, the digs revealed archeological objects from the Bronze Age and the resting-place of a Hun maiden. Ryazantsev said only several tombs like this had been discovered in Europe.
The excavation will last until mid-August.
I believe the Huns were around a lot earlier than this.
I've read that Hungaria was named for the Huns?
Oops. Make that Hungary.
I thought it was pretty well established that the Huns were a Turkic people from Central Asia, more or less precursors of the Turks and Mongols who went nomadic later on in successive waves. Once they reached Europe, they also associated (i.e. conquered and enlisted) previous barbarian invaders like the Alans and Goths in their assault on the Roman Empire.
They should be diggin in NW Texas
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The people now in Hungary call themselves, "Magyars".
Here something interesting I found:
It says that the Huns settled in Transylvania and are the ancestors of the Hungarians living there today.
4th-5th Century A.D. -The Huns arrived in the Carpathian Basin. Originally from Scythia, or the Turanian plain, the Huns established an empire in the Carpathian Basin under the leadership of their great King, Attila. Far from being the cruel and ruthless conqueror depicted in western history books, Attila was known among his own people, and allied peoples in his tribal confederation (including Germanic tribes), as "Good King Attila". Actually, Attila's bad reputation can be attributed to the Christian propaganda of the time. Byzantine delegates to the court of Attila were amazed by his modesty; they reported that Attila, in the midst of great feasts, ate only from a wooden plate and drank from a wooden goblet.2
The Sékely people are among the oldest cultures to inhabit the Carpathian Basin. The origin of the Székelys is fascinating, and a matter of historical controversy. Traditional scholarly accounts of Székely origins state that the Székelys were Huns, who later adopted the Hungarian language (Magyar), while other Scholars believe that the Székelys were a contingent of Hungarians (Magyars), that accompanied Attila to the Carpathian Basin. Recent archaeological finds among the Ugar people in Eastern Turkestan seem to give credence to ancient Magyar legends which state that the Magyars are direct descendants of the Huns.
Székely legends about their own origin state that after Attila died and his empire disintegrated, Attila's youngest and favorite son Ernák (Prince Csaba), led them to safety in Transylvania, then returned to the east. Ernák did indeed take the main body of Huns back to Scythia, more specifically, to the region between the Black Sea and Caspian Sea where the remaining Hunnic peoples, merged with the ancestors of the Magyars (Hungarians).
This Hun-Magyar connection is also remembered in one of the best known Hungarian folk tales, "The Legend of the White Stag" This legend describes how the two sons of Nimrod, Hunor and Magor, chased a white stag into a new land. There they married the Kings two daughters. The descendants of Hunor became the Huns, while the descendants of Magor became the Magyars.
6th - 8th Centuries -After the disintegration of Attila's empire, Transylvania was inhabited by the remnants of various Hunnic peoples brought by Attila, and a Germanic tribe, the Gepids. No major power was able to exert control over the region for any great length of time. That is until the Avars, who came from Scythia, established an empire there. By 568, the Avars under the capable leadership of their Kagan, Bajan, established in the Carpathian Basin an empire that lasted for 250 years.3 The Avars, however, would meet their demise with the rise of Charlemagne's Frankish empire. After a fierce seven year war which lasted from 796-803 A.D., the Avars were defeated, and a bountiful horde of Avar gold was looted by Charlemagne and taken to Aachen (greatly enriching Charlemagne and his empire). Some remnants of the Avars fled to the Caucasus Mountain region, while others stayed in the Carpathian Basin, eventually merging with the local population.
Some scholars believe that the Avars held such significant numbers of Magyar tribes in their midst, that their conquest of the Carpathian Basin established the Magyars in the region before 896 A.D. Known as the Dual Conquest Theory, they offer tantalizing evidence that the earlier Avar conquest of the Carpathian Basin, and the Magyar conquest of 896, were the first and second waves, respectively, of a conquest of the Carpathian Basin by the ancestors of today's Hungarians.
9th Century -The seven Magyar (Hungarian) tribes under the leadership of Árpád, conquered the Carpathian Basin. They defeated the Bulgars who had installed themselves in Transylvania, with Árpád's own son Levente, leading the campaign (Levente would lose his life fighting the Bulgars). Upon their arrival, the Hungarians found a country sparsely populated, with remnants of earlier Hunnish and Avar peoples, as well as some Slavs. The Teri-i- Üngürüsz Chronicle indicates that the Magyars spoke the same language of the people they encountered in their new homeland. 4
The Magyars also shared in common with the earlier settlers, the runic (rovás) writing system, with archaeological finds indicating that literacy existed among a large portion of the population.5 When the Magyars arrived in the Carpathian Basin, they assimilated earlier groups of settlers.
9th and 10th Century- Hungarian Royal authority was consolidated in Transylvania. Under King, later Saint, Stephen, Christianity was adopted. Stephen was opposed in this endeavor by his uncle Kopphány, on dynastic, religious, and political grounds. Koppány was supported by Gyula, the Chieftain of Transylvania. Koppány's uprising failed, and Koppány was executed, his body quartered, and sent to the four corners of the kingdom as a warning against any future uprisings. The first Roman Catholic Bishopric was then founded in Transylvania. 6 One very unfortunate aspect of the nation's conversion to Christianity was that Stephen, in his zeal to convert the Magyars, destroyed all that was considered pagan, including the ancient Hun-Székely-Magyar runic(rovás) system of writing, as well as other irreplaceable cultural artifacts.7 It was during Stephan's reign that the Székelys would be employed as frontier guardsmen in Transylvania.
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Fortunately, this brave king stopped the Hun scourge.
Oops.
Around 370 CE an asiatic people known as the Quick Facts about: Huns
A member of a nomadic people who invaded Europe in the 4th centuryHuns first began invading Europe from the eastern steppes. These peoples are now believed to have descended from Central Asian ancestors. In 453 CE the Huns reached the height of their expansion under the well known conquerer, Attila the Hun.
During this period, the Huns controlled an area that was centered about modern day Hungary. The Huns are also believed to be amongst the ancestors of most modern day Hungarians. Recently completed genetic, blood type and linguistic research all support this theory.
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/H/Hu/Hungary_Pre-History_and_Early_History1.htm
But seriously, did you know that the Finns share a common mythology and many word roots with the Hungarians?
That tribe must have made two wrong turns on the way to Id.
Interesting reading, thanks.
Yeah, the Magyar language is found in Hungary (with a few nearby pockets) and in Finland, so it's not exactly true that Finnish is an isolate. The two tongues were isolated from one another though, developing separately, and with completely different loan vocabularies. So they're not just dialects either.
Where's Cronos? We need that cool language family tree graphic.
Languages of Finland (quite a few, who knew?)
http://www.ethnologue.com/show_country.asp?name=FI
Languages of Hungary
http://www.ethnologue.com/show_country.asp?name=HU
Magyar language (somewhat humorous)
http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=Magyar
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