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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




TOPICS: US: Alabama; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: arrestedpaulvds; aruba; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; ghb; holloway; joran; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot
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To: kcvl

Wasn't it mentioned earlier that there is a cemetery near Joran's home? Please don't slam me for suggesting this, but are there above-ground crypts there? And if so how many? Have they been checked? Why couldn't one of these be the perfect hiding place for Natalee's body? If it were a family crypt and had one deceased member but room for more than one body, there would be an empty space there.


5,041 posted on 06/30/2005 9:43:08 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: Trust but Verify

TbT, that is your opinion(only) Yes, he does have the responsibilty to be concerned and apply pressure where needed.

Natalee is an American, the POTUS has immense power at his disposal and as the leader of America use it. I know about the FBI and so on and so on. Well, it's is not good enough for me and many other Americans.

Yes, the POTUS could do much more to help in this matter. I know it is very difficult in between giving away 50 Billion dollars of tax payers money to the (PA)muslims to build up their (Non-State) infastructure. I further realize that Mehico's (Vincente the Fox) has to keep having his ass kissed to maintain the great relations with America.

If this were you daughter, how would you feel waiting, hoping and praying she be found.? Imagine Beth's feelings seeing this debacle of an investigation going in circles.

I say put that shoe on your foot, see how it feels. I think it's time you woke up and smelled the coffee.

Good Day TbT, I ask you not to ping me again and I will do the same for you. NSNR


5,042 posted on 06/30/2005 9:43:58 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Dark Skies

Your analysis in 4575 HAS dark skies. It's eerie. Yikes


5,043 posted on 06/30/2005 9:55:52 AM PDT by Gracey
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To: sarasota
Lies don't appear to count in Aruban prosecution

That's because lying is a way of life for these vermin. Just like in this country where lying is not cause for impeachment if you are a member of a particular political party.

5,044 posted on 06/30/2005 9:58:57 AM PDT by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)
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To: Carolinamom
That was a brilliant thought..Why not? She's somewhere, if not in the ocean..

sw

5,045 posted on 06/30/2005 10:02:38 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (A moment of silence?..we've had a MONTH of silence))
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To: NCjim

Note to self: America and American properties only.


5,046 posted on 06/30/2005 10:06:46 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Carolinamom
WOW..Equsearch has been searching various Mausoleums today!

They are trying to search dangerous Caves as well.

5,047 posted on 06/30/2005 10:07:16 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (A moment of silence?..we've had a MONTH of silence))
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To: demkicker

Governor Riley's Press Secretary,(John Mattson)was telephonically notified by me this morning. I believe the POTUS needs to get on this debalce of justice like "white on rice."

Some peeps say the POTUS has other things to worry about. I say an American, dead and hidden in Aruba with a sad excuse for investigative action merits attention/support.

Dk, I know you are doing your part, and many other proud/patriotic Freepers. I say to them and you, Damn Good Job! NSNR


5,048 posted on 06/30/2005 10:10:39 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Malichi

He would slip on a bar of soap and his parent's would be notified,"Something Bad Happened." What's Good For The Goose is Good For The Gander!!(Oh Urine)

He will probably attend a marxist university in europe. He and his family along with the Dutch government are in "Club Hate America." NSNR


5,049 posted on 06/30/2005 10:20:13 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: sodpoodle

That's it. Thank you. NSNR


5,050 posted on 06/30/2005 10:23:22 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: All; Everybody
Hey good people..Come on over to the Smokey Back Room. We're over there now..new thread.

sw

5,051 posted on 06/30/2005 10:54:41 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (A moment of silence?..we've had a MONTH of silence))
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To: NCjim; cajungirl; brigette
I just read at tuscaloosanews.com that...

Janssen (the Aruban attorney general) said the elder van der Sloot gave his son and the Kalpoe brothers legal advice, telling them that "without a body there is no case."

Just thinking out loud, but this must occurred before the boys were picked up originally (he hasn't had access since that time). And the fact that PVDS told the boys this raises the question of why would he say that unless he (1) knew they were guilty or had some involvement in "something bad" and (2) he knew that body wouldn't be found.

At that early date, even he might have thought she had just run away or drowned while swimming at the beach...that is,unless he knew for a fact that the body would not be found or had first or second hand knowledge of what was done with the body.

Bottom line...what made him think the body wouldn't be found? The girl might have been just missing...like the runaway bride.

5,052 posted on 06/30/2005 11:17:24 AM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Dark Skies

Post your comments on the new Thread #4.

Because this is the precise rationale that has been made from the get go.

Greta and Mark Fuhrman made similar comments with respect to how they created a "story" before NH was reported as either late or missing.

On the money!
sp


5,053 posted on 06/30/2005 11:23:00 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Newbie, PhD.)
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To: sodpoodle

Will do, thx.


5,054 posted on 06/30/2005 11:28:13 AM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

I agree, and see the good ole boy network working there. I have come to the conclusion the Arubans have contempt for tourists, and see them as little more than meat. I also know the Dutch are arrogant, elitists, and very haughty. I hate to admit to having some Dutch blood.


5,055 posted on 06/30/2005 11:30:07 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc

There is a new Thread #4 with more updates.

Regarding your post - see this fine areticle for how the Dutch have decriminalized crime - so there's nothing to report.
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=7843

kind regards
sp


5,056 posted on 06/30/2005 11:48:00 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Newbie, PhD.)
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To: demkicker
Is this the first we've heard something about Natalee tripping when she got out of the car? I caught the tail end of a FNC report.
No, I've heard it or read it before. This is one of those rehearsed details that Mark Furhman says is a dead give away.


The LE should have taken the preps one at a time to the HI, and asked where did she get out and exactly where did she trip?
5,057 posted on 06/30/2005 11:51:08 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: cajungirl
Sorry, just extremely frustrated with this mess. I do get my cast off tomorrow so I should be happy that I have something to look forward to.
TAW
5,058 posted on 06/30/2005 11:54:52 AM PDT by Malichi
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To: MinuteGal

I sure agree with you about Greta. I usually don't watch her. She absolutely infuriated me during the Peterson trial. But she has done and is doing an outstanding job on this case. Must give credit where credit is due.


5,059 posted on 06/30/2005 12:03:14 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: brigette

Really? You just made my day!!! I'm at work and I just got a few minutes to log on here. WOOHOO!!


5,060 posted on 06/30/2005 12:06:59 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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