Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Ok... the phone call discussion comes up again in the interview Croes is at the gas station with Beth Twitty. Greta asks Croes if the phone call discussion was brought up while talking to Beth at the gas station. Croes says yes... Greta says after you listen to the call several times and hung up with the person in the states, what did you do next.

After that we spoke for awhile then we left...

OK it sounds like someone may have called from Aruba with a rental cell phone and left a message on a "answering machine???? possibly at the Twitty's home and the message was played to Croes several times at the gas station by someone that was in the states (one of Beth's relatives?)

4,781 posted on 06/29/2005 9:42:05 PM PDT by stlnative (please do NOT feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)

JVDS looks like he is ENJOYING the attention! No he's NOT going to talk. NONE of them are as Palladin suggested, because they are all in on it.

4,782 posted on 06/29/2005 9:44:34 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Off-the-cuff-comments are NOT CLEAR and CONVINCING evidence.)

To: TAdams8591; All

Just keep praying that the search team finds Natalee. That is their best hope at this time! Natalee's family knows you all are praying for them. It helps them so much to know that!

4,783 posted on 06/29/2005 9:47:21 PM PDT by kcvl

We will all pray and continue to pray. We should pray extra hard that the search team finds her!

And if that doesn't work AMERICA MUST BOYCOTT Aruba!

I had always thought Aruba was an island I'd like to visit. NOT ANYMORE!

4,784 posted on 06/29/2005 9:52:09 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Off-the-cuff-comments are NOT CLEAR and CONVINCING evidence.)

To: Jrabbit; brigette; kcvl

The phone call that is being asked about.....was this a call to the Twittys on Sunday night? Or has it been said yet who the call was to?

Thats what we are trying to figure out. Along with what was on the screen on CNN tonight:

CNN segment entitled: Natalee Holloway Family threatens to go to media if arrests are not made.

4,785 posted on 06/29/2005 9:52:58 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

To: brigette; Jrabbit

Yes, I'm still here. What do you make of it?

4,786 posted on 06/29/2005 9:54:50 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

I am very discouraged tonight and think that the boys and the 'family' (can't get that out of my mind since the interview with the security guard last night)are CONFIDENT that no body will be found. PVDS had all morning and all day on the 31st to dispose of Natalee, didn't he? Do we know his whereabouts until 2 am on the 31st when Beth and her friends confronted him?

I am afraid she was taken off that island. And unless someone talks, or another comes forward that was in on the cover up, Natalee's family will never get the answers they need.

"No body no case" Bastard

4,787 posted on 06/29/2005 9:57:58 PM PDT by HoHoeHeaux

The transcript for tonight's LKL isn't up yet but this is from this morning on CNN...

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S. O'BRIEN: Natalee's mother, Beth Holloway Twitty, is in Palm Beach, Aruba this morning.

Beth, it's nice to see you again. How are you holding up?

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: It's hard, Soledad. I mean, it's tough. But I'm in it, so I'm not giving up. No way.

S. O'BRIEN: You've had a lot of emotional ups and downs, and I know there was one just the other day with the release of Paul Van Der Sloot. You were hugely disappointed that they let him go. Why?

TWITTY: Soledad, I was devastated. I felt like we worked so hard for a month -- I mean, you know, we were here at 11:00 p.m. on the 30th and we worked so hard to where we were, and I can't believe it was ripped away from me, and I really -- Soledad, I don't know, am I back at square one? I don't know that.

S. O'BRIEN: What do you think is the link with Paul Van Der Sloot and your daughter's disappearance? I guess I'm not making the connection there. Why do you think he's so critical to this case? .

TWITTY: I think that he has information. He definitely has it, and he has to step forward with it. He has not provided them --

S. O'BRIEN: Why are you so sure? Why are you so sure, Beth? What has he said to you that you're so sure he's got information?

TWITTY: You know, on that night and early morning hours on the 31st, we knew that he had -- that he was instrumental, had something -- connection, some information that he was withholding. And once I spent that 90 minutes in his home, I had the confirmation that I needed to know, yes, yes, he does have some information. I don't know what he has. I don't know how he's involved, but he can help give us information on this.

S. O'BRIEN: Because he's the one who was dealing with his son in the early morning hours after your daughter disappeared. What kind of conversation did he tell you he had with his son?

TWITTY: You know, I was not involved in that conversation, Soledad, so that would be something that the other witnesses that were with me could tell you. I remained seated in the vehicle the entire time.

S. O'BRIEN: I guess you're just so adamant and I can't figure out if you're saying you think he's covering for his son, you think he specifically had a role in your daughter's disappearance, you think that he just has information and is not being forthcoming? Which is it? Why are you so convinced?

TWITTY: Soledad, you're exactly right. Really it's all three of them could be a possibility, and that's what we need to find out.

S. O'BRIEN: Steve Croes also released. Is that as devastating, do you think, to this investigation as well, Beth?

TWITTY: You know, I didn't have any thoughts on Steve Croes. You know, I've been pretty opinionated on the rest of the individuals, but you know, I just didn't have any thoughts there, whether he was arrested or whether he was released. You know, they still remain suspects, though in Natalee's kidnapping, yes.

S. O'BRIEN: You are the one who sort of raised the question a month in. And are you back to square one, do you think?

TWITTY: You know, I feel like that I have carried this -- and June 13th, I really felt like we were pushing forward, and we were working together, and you know, after this weekend when it's ripped out from me, you know, I don't know. Maybe I need a chart. I would love to know where I am. I don't know if I'm at the beginning. I don't know if I'm in the middle. You know, I don't think any of us know where we are anymore.

S. O'BRIEN: So is the FBI being helpful? I mean, do you think you're being stymied by the Aruban authorities? Are you getting enough assistance from the Americans helping here?

TWITTY: All I can comment on that is, they're only allowed to do what the government permits them to. I'm sure their hands are tied somewhat. I know they're working with them.

But now as far as divulging information to me, no, I'm not getting that, and I'm sure that would be jeopardizing the investigation.

S. O'BRIEN: I've got to tell you, your sense of frustration is coming through loud and clear. Beth Holloway Twitty talking to us this morning. Beth, of course we'll continue to check in with you, and we keep our fingers crossed for any information.

TWITTY: Thank you, Soledad.

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You can find transcripts from CNN here...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/2005.06.28.html

4,788 posted on 06/29/2005 10:00:54 PM PDT by kcvl

duh....I'm confabbled. How would a call on an answering machine be known to come from a cell phone? Caller ID? And what did the dang message say? And when was it made?

4,789 posted on 06/29/2005 10:02:35 PM PDT by Jrabbit

Hard to say at this point... Why would they not cut this out if they are not going to give details about the call. Expect something coming out soon about the call.

4,790 posted on 06/29/2005 10:04:14 PM PDT by stlnative (please do NOT feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)

You know.......that is right. They must all three be in on it.......or one would have fessed up.

4,791 posted on 06/29/2005 10:04:39 PM PDT by Shortstop7

Watching Nancy Graces' show on CNN. Maybe she'll say something......she did get some info while hosting LKL. The search tomorrow will be by the lighthouse.

4,792 posted on 06/29/2005 10:05:04 PM PDT by Jrabbit

While you are watching Larry King show do you see at the bottom of the screen that The Natalee Holloway Family threatens to go to the media if arrest are not made.

What will they be going to the media with?

4,793 posted on 06/29/2005 10:07:50 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

I am watching Nancy Grace also.

She is interviewing Steve Croes. (I wonder if CNN paid him?) He has been fired from his job.

4,794 posted on 06/29/2005 10:08:29 PM PDT by kcvl

we are not sure it came from an answering machine I was suggesting that it did because of how the conversation went. It was some type of message that could be played over and over so that others could listen to it (Charles Croes) and whom ever was playing the replaying the "message" was doing it from the states.

Natalee father is retired Special Ops, so he probably had someone look into the phone records when this call came in to someone in the states (I assume it came to the Twitty's home)

4,795 posted on 06/29/2005 10:09:14 PM PDT by stlnative (please do NOT feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)

Steve Croes being interviewed! What a putz!

Ok, he heard Deepak cooking up the HI story. Liar!! That story was already cooked up!

He has been fired from his job. Boo freaking hoo!

"I made a stupid mistake"

4,796 posted on 06/29/2005 10:09:33 PM PDT by Jrabbit

Thanks.....I think an answering machine, also. I want to know what the message said!

4,797 posted on 06/29/2005 10:11:28 PM PDT by Jrabbit

I didn't see that and I didn't hear them say any such a thing!

4,798 posted on 06/29/2005 10:12:34 PM PDT by Jrabbit

You know that Natalee's ex-boyfriend was on this trip to Aruba, right? One of the gals in the picture of Natalee and 3 other girls on the beach is the sister of her ex-boyfriend. His name is Sean McVay

4,799 posted on 06/29/2005 10:13:11 PM PDT by stlnative (please do NOT feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)

What will they be going to the media with?

I think it's just a threat to get the damn Aruban government to wake up and get with the program. They can call on friends and family to boycott the island. That's all I can think of.

They may have a few pieces of information not yet made public fearing it would harm the investigation but I don't think it's earth shattering information. I wish they would release everything and maybe someone could help figure this mess out!

4,800 posted on 06/29/2005 10:13:34 PM PDT by kcvl

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