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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

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To: TexKat

What?


4,621 posted on 06/29/2005 6:15:56 PM PDT by MAWG (Diversity is where everyone looks different but thinks the same way.)
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To: af_vet_1981
Natalee Holloway Family threatens to go to media if arrests are not made.

What is your take on the above af_vet_1981?

Is it what a lousy job the LE is doing or could it be more?

4,622 posted on 06/29/2005 6:16:08 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Canadian Outrage
I think Joran keeps lying about how he got home because HIS FATHER picked him up and took him home. It must have been after he got home that they decided they HAD to get a cover story together.

Bingo!

4,623 posted on 06/29/2005 6:16:23 PM PDT by auboy ("woof")
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To: txrangerette

Do you recall seeing the broadcast that Greta did when she took cameras and I think an Aruban? She was retracing Natalee's steps the night of her disappearance and she was retracing the steps of Joran Vds. When she was outside of Carlos and Charlies she made the statement "That this bar has a terrible reputation right"? It is known that if you slip the bartenders a little cash they will slip some ruffies into a drink for you"!! I thought, hmmm perhaps that's why these guys were saying that Natalee was "drunk". Maybe she really was overdosed. If that happened there would have had to be a mad rush to get a story and hide the evidence until they could dispose of same. This story is just so CONFUSING and DISCOURAGING.

As I watched Greta with Beth in the hotel room last night, I noticed that a lot of spunk seems to have been drained out of Beth. She absolutely sounded weak and despondent. She appeared to have almost nothing left to give. Her voice was even weak. I found it heart wrenching!


4,624 posted on 06/29/2005 6:16:58 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: gg188; All

Jug states that he feels that the Aruban LE has switched gears on them. The Twittys feels they are getting vibes that these people just want them to go home.


4,625 posted on 06/29/2005 6:18:18 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Canadian Outrage

As I watched Beth show Greta Natalee's bed and belongings last night, it broke my heart.


4,626 posted on 06/29/2005 6:20:25 PM PDT by auboy ("woof")
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To: brigette

Greta on O'Reilly made a very good point that Bill did not understand. She noted that Joran had a story prepared before Natallee was noted in the media as missing, meaning that Joran knew that "something bad happened" prior to all of the media attention. If Joran had only left her at the beach presuming that she walked back to the HI, then he would not have collaborated with the brothers on a fabricated story to cover their tracks until after the news had come out about her disappearance. This fact therefore seriously implicates all three left in jail.


4,627 posted on 06/29/2005 6:22:26 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: TexKat
What is your take on the above af_vet_1981? Is it what a lousy job the LE is doing or could it be more?

I think they know the vdS clan has Natalee's blood on their heads. The Holloway's have learned that the criminal justice industry is a game being played in which they have few legal options because the rules are in favor of the perps. There is no justice in Aruba. The truth about Natalee and retribution on the perps and their families is more likely to be private, and by Aruban hands if the island howls due to economic collapse.

4,628 posted on 06/29/2005 6:22:38 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Howlin

If the father said that Howlin, there is NO WAY this creep should have been released. He needs to be RE-arrested FORTHWITH!! That man has "dirty hands". There is no question. As Beth said, "After that 90 minutes at the VDS home, she HAD the confirmation that she needed that HE was involved and that he had information about Natalee. I feel so sorry for this mother.


4,629 posted on 06/29/2005 6:24:18 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: TexKat
CNN segment entitled: Natalee Holloway Family threatens to go to media if arrests are not made.

Great news! I've suggested just that in my posts #5390 & #4610. Do it Beth & Jug. It's the only chance you have of cracking this thing wide open.

4,630 posted on 06/29/2005 6:24:30 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: MAWG

I'm stuck at work as the bridge I need to get across had a big accident on it. There is absolutely no point in me leaving the office until the traffic clears.


4,631 posted on 06/29/2005 6:25:28 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: auboy

That intereview in the hotel room was the most poignant thing I have ever seen, it was more than heartbreaking but there are no words. It was heart crushing. I don't think I ever felt so sad for a stranger in my life. My heart aches for her.


4,632 posted on 06/29/2005 6:25:41 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Canadian Outrage
I thought, hmmm perhaps that's why these guys were saying that Natalee was "drunk". Maybe she really was overdosed.

Of course she was drugged. She was not the first. She is unlikely to be the last there either, unless of course some aircraft dropped ordinance on that particular restaurant.

Training accident

4,633 posted on 06/29/2005 6:26:26 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Canadian Outrage

You're exactly right, Canadian. It's the same arrogant behavior that Peterson used when trying to cover-up what he did to Laci.


4,634 posted on 06/29/2005 6:27:01 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: brigette

Ego before truth.


4,635 posted on 06/29/2005 6:27:32 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...
Nancy Grace reporting that the Kalpoes attorneys have informed the Kalpoe families not to talk to the media.
4,636 posted on 06/29/2005 6:27:48 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: demkicker

Heard on Fox that Joran has changed his story EIGHT times. Is this verified or a rumor?


4,637 posted on 06/29/2005 6:28:34 PM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: Jrabbit

God if this isn't REASONABLE SUSPICION I don't know what is. These people are beyond OBVIOUS!! In fact, they appear desperately scared and are attempting to obstruct every avenue and corrupt any and every witness possible!! ARREST BOTH PARENTS!!


4,638 posted on 06/29/2005 6:28:41 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: Dark Skies

Sometimes, evil people still take my breath away. It is so unhuman, so unbelievable to me. I can't believe we are of the same species, really. They just seem like aliens to me.


4,639 posted on 06/29/2005 6:29:03 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: auboy
And you could tell that it was breaking Beths' heart too. You ever spend 4 weeks in Hotel room? Away from family, home, friends and pets? Think about it folks. It is hard. On top of that, you know that your daughter/best friend is probably dead.

BETH IS RIGHT. The father is guilty of murder. At this stage of the game, it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to solve this one but, as I have said for 4 weeks now, it's gonna take some strong American pressure to bring this SCUM to justice. It should be clear to everyone that Aruba is a CLOSED SET! Corrupt and self serving. It is time for the Media and American Govt. to step in. To me, Natalee is no less important than Barbara or Jenna Bush.

4,640 posted on 06/29/2005 6:29:16 PM PDT by MAWG (Diversity is where everyone looks different but thinks the same way.)
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