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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Link to previous thread ^ | 6/23/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:44:51 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




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To: Howlin; TexKat; maggiefluffs; All

Ok... lets say Natalee was still alive, but out cold and Joran did not know how to get her back to the hotel. He starts calling ariund trying to find someone he knows to help him. He ends up calling dad, he comes and gets both of them. They put Natalee in the car and Dad decides to take Joran home first so he can get to bed and to school in the morning. Dad tells Joran that he will take Natalee back to the hotel strip area to find out where what hotel she is staying at (maybe he told Joran he was taking her back to the Holiday Inn).

Daddy decided to take advantage of this pass out young lady and he ends up killing her (or he discovers she is dead after he drops Joran off at home).

Daddy may have never came back home by time Joran had to catch the bus for school. (Remember Daddy cannot remember much about that morning, if went to work, if took Joran to school, if he woke up Joran for school)

They way I see it PVDS to me is more a suspect than the brothers are. He is at the same level as Joran.

PVDS may be getting special treatment since LE does not have anything positive on him yet. - Gotta go


4,521 posted on 06/29/2005 3:21:01 PM PDT by stlnative (please do NOT feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)
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To: Howlin

Thank You so much. Very interesting. And, very incriminating. Daddy is Dirt!


4,522 posted on 06/29/2005 3:21:13 PM PDT by MAWG (Diversity is where everyone looks different but thinks the same way.)
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To: Jrabbit

The prosecution did not discuss the charges during the first week out of respect for her family; didn't want to hurt the feelings unncessarily.

The investigation has been hampered by the father instructing the three boys on what to say.

and get this:

The PARENTS <----MOTHER!!!!!....> have been "interviewing" his friends about what they have said to the police. (So they can "change their story" as they find out what the evidence is!!)

She said she is personally doing everything she can to find out what happened to Natalee.


4,523 posted on 06/29/2005 3:21:54 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Jrabbit

And now we have a U.S. defense attorney SPINNING this story.

Saying the boys were expecting her to show up!


4,524 posted on 06/29/2005 3:23:29 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Oh puke! So, mom and dad are interviewing the friends? I feel sick....


4,525 posted on 06/29/2005 3:27:18 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Howlin
She said she is personally doing everything she can to find out what happened to Natalee.

And not saying she ain't getting very far, very fast.

4,526 posted on 06/29/2005 3:27:40 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: demkicker

From what I'm hearing on MSNBC the prosecutor sounds like she's about to fold. Dissing her own case. This is just awful.


4,527 posted on 06/29/2005 3:28:17 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: Jrabbit

If he is SO confident a body won't be found, I assume she was dumped in the ocean. But IF the body was weighted down, isn't there still a chance they could find skeletal remains near Aruba?


4,528 posted on 06/29/2005 3:28:58 PM PDT by GnuHere
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To: dc-zoo

I heard every word she said and I didn't get that impression AT ALL.


4,529 posted on 06/29/2005 3:30:37 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin; MAWG; All

Caren Janssen has read all the
text messages/emails, etc.,
between the boys on that
night.

Janssen ain't saying what
those messages are.


4,530 posted on 06/29/2005 3:30:39 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Jrabbit

Did you just hear her say that he told them "no body no crime" the very FIRST DAY?

I'd like to know a few things now.

When was the first time the police talked to Joran that Monday?

Was Joran really talking about Natalee while he was at school taking his exams?


4,531 posted on 06/29/2005 3:32:05 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
And now we have a U.S. defense attorney SPINNING this story. Saying the boys were expecting her to show up!

Which made no sense, b/c PVDS, told them no body, no case! FGS!

4,532 posted on 06/29/2005 3:33:23 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Howlin

You're right. I spoke too soon. I just saw her explain what PVDS did. How could the judge have turned him loose?


4,533 posted on 06/29/2005 3:33:34 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: Howlin
"The PARENTS <----MOTHER!!!!!....> have been "interviewing" his friends about what they have said to the police. (So they can "change their story" as they find out what the evidence is!!) "

Oh how I wish they would throw her a$$ in jail now too....

Did they ask why she thought the judge let daddy dearest out of jail if he said "no body, no crime"


Hmmm...are they evacuating the Capital again?? Britt Hume show.
4,534 posted on 06/29/2005 3:33:46 PM PDT by WestCoastGal
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To: dc-zoo

That's something we may never know.


4,535 posted on 06/29/2005 3:34:00 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: WestCoastGal

Yes, he did; and she said she was very surprised. But that he was STILL a suspect, and not to put pressure on the boy.


4,536 posted on 06/29/2005 3:34:41 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Did you just hear her say that he told them "no body no crime" the very FIRST DAY?

I missed seeing all this! Who is "she", the prosecutor? Please tell!

4,537 posted on 06/29/2005 3:36:10 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: demkicker

Yes, the chief prosecutor. On Abrams show.

Read the following posts!


4,538 posted on 06/29/2005 3:36:45 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: demkicker

Start here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1429067/posts?page=4496#4496


4,539 posted on 06/29/2005 3:37:42 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Jrabbit

" OMG....I'm thinking good old dad "disposed" of her. Good grief! I can't believe he was let go!!""

He might have done just that. :( :( Does anyone else remember him saying he didn't remember if he worked on May 30th or not?? I can't remember where I heard it, but I did hear it said, which is a very strange thing for him to say, imo.


4,540 posted on 06/29/2005 3:37:56 PM PDT by Pepper777
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