Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[kcvl]

Thanks for the explanation.

[af_vet_1981]

That is something I wonder whether the Arubans realize

I think the more humane among them realize it. The PornPerps and otherwise corrupt think the supply of victims is endless.

[TexKat]

Suspect Was No Stranger To Holloway's Group

UPDATED: 10:57 pm CDT June 27, 2005 BIRMINGHAM, Ala. -- The Natalee Holloway case's main suspect, Joran van der Sloot, was no stranger to the Mountain Brook group. He'd been hanging out with them all week, according to one of Holloway's friends, NBC 13 reported.

Jamie Justice said she got to know van der Sloot at the Black Jack table.

"The way he came off wasn't at all in a threatening way," Justice said. "He was really naive to everybody."

Justice and many of Holloway's friends thought van der Sloot was a fellow tourist.

"He didn't look like one of the locals and he didn't act like one of the locals," Justice said. "He acted more like he was just down there vacationing."

On May 30, Holloway and her friends headed to the beach and pool around 10:00 a.m. for a full day of sun. At 8:30 p.m., they had dinner in the hotel restaurant and then went to the hotel casino where Holloway met van der Sloot. At about 11 p.m., Holloway and her friends went to Carlos and Charlie's Bar where they once again ran into van der Sloot.

Justice said Holloway spent most the night with her friends, not van der Sloot. However, at about 1:30 a.m. Holloway and van der Sloot left the bar together.

Justice says although Holloway is a sweet person she isn't overly trusting.

[af_vet_1981]

Jamie Justice said she got to know van der Sloot at the Black Jack table. "The way he came off wasn't at all in a threatening way," Justice said. "He was really naive to everybody." Justice and many of Holloway's friends thought van der Sloot was a fellow tourist. "He didn't look like one of the locals and he didn't act like one of the locals," Justice said. "He acted more like he was just down there vacationing."

Witness how clueless Jamie is, and fortunate she was not his intended prey ...

[No Surrender No Retreat]

There are several VDS supporters commenting tonight. In all fairness I wish they would move to Aruba and continue to suck up the VDS's lies and spit. NSNR

[Canadian Outrage]

Oh I must have misunderstood what Greta said then. I thought she said that Croes "wanted" to help Deepak because of his involvement with Deepak's Internet cafe. Either way, it is very hard to understand his reasoning for voluntarily inserting himself into something like this. I recall Greta or the lady she was speaking with saying that he said he didn't realize what a serious situation he was inserting himself into until he had done it.!

[No Surrender No Retreat]

Kevl this is what I call (LUST)pertaining to Creomo, (Lying Under Suspicious Timing)Did you observe that dumb ass smirk on his face? He knows for now, he has gotten over thanks to corrupt authorities&judge(in the bag)NSNR

[hummingbird]

Thank you for the big picture perspective. I think that perspective is what must keep President Bush going even in the midst of evil and, also, what is keeping this thread going on for all these many posts. Good vs. Evil...since the beginning.

[TAquinas]

I need some attention too. I wanna be a somebody like you by starting threads such as this and the ES one. Remember that one and all the fighting you had because you wanted to be the one to start a new thread?

Anyway, re this girl's case, I think the released guards did 1-2-3.

You may scoff at this, but eventually I will be proven right.

TO ALL PARENTS: Do not send your your girls into enemy territory. Enemy territory could be a foreign alien land inhabited by non-Westerners, a public school, or any public event/cerimony in which undesirable elements are present.

I hope all you parents learn a lesson from this girl's parents who let their teenage girl go alone amongst people who are not fit to live among civilized people. Why would you want to send your child in Central America or the Caribbean? Crazy. Absolutely crazy.

Anyway, I hope this girl is found safe and alive and will learn a lesson she remembers forthe rest of her life, and tha is: keep an eye on your children. There are predators out there intent on hurting them.

[Canadian Outrage]

I heard that Peach!! Greta then asked the woman from the Prosecutors office (?) could the elder Van der S. be re-arrested? Satish absolutely told this guy or Deepak, that the brothers were summoned to the VDS home LATE at night and Mr. VDS and Joran asked them to go along with this COVER STORY THAT THEY COOKED UP!! Now WHY would they need a cover story? Such a difficult question? /Sarcasm.

[auboy]

This is the first time John has stated the inclusion of the VDS family. In other statements this was not made, so I am not sure if he has informed LE of this or not.

IIRC, Mickey told Greta he was only interrogated the Sunday he was arrested (June 5) and the following Monday? I believe when he was released, he gave an interview with someone (local newspaper?), and said that Deepak had told him that "they made up the story about dropping Natalee off at the Holiday Inn".

They being Deepak, Juran and Paulus. Mickey told Greta that Deepak didn't know that he was one of the two security guards brought in due to the HI cover story (lie) that Deepak was part of. Mickey said that Deepak thought Mickey was from Jamaica. Later after Deepak had told Mickey that he, his brother, and Joran had gone to the lighthouse, and dropped Joran and Natalee off near the Marriott, Mickey told Deepak he was one of the security guards brought in for questioning.

Mickey then said that Deepak apologized to him for getting Mickey in trouble. Mickey said that so far, Deepak is the only one to apologize to him - the police and prosecutor's office have not.

In one of Greta's interviews tonight (I can't remember who, maybe the attorney of Deepak's brother) the interviewee said that Mickey John's attorney has stated to them that Mickey is willing to testify if called upon.

We shall see.

[Canadian Outrage]

I absolutely believe the security guard!!

[TAquinas]

"It's getting VERY confusing on who to believe."

I agree it's getting very confusing.

Personally, I think the security guards should have never been released as they may still be withholding info on what happened to this girl. I suspect they were involved in this girl's disappearance or possible murder.

[onyx]

I'm so glad you got home in time to see him on Greta's. Truly convincing.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

Howlin, that is what you call a justice system of convenience for all the perps, unless you are black. NSNR

[Canadian Outrage]

I agree, there is nothing wrong with the word possee to me either. It means a group of people seeking justice. Plain and simple.

[onyx]

You have NO basis for your beliefs. All have admitted they lied about the security guards.

[Canadian Outrage]

It's a PATHETIC and thoroughly CORRUPT system clearly!!

[TexKat]

Bolo, bolo.

According to a poster at SM last night one of the MB students did an interview on Birmingham nbc channel 13 last night who had a video that was taken of them in C&C. Supposedly Joran is in the video.

I have been trying to find it in their nbc 13 Birmingham archive videos. If you guys run across it please ping me.

Thank you.

[TAquinas]

"All have admitted they lied about the security guards."

Originally, when first arrested the security guards lied about seeing the girl being dropped at the hotel. Why did they say that, knowing it was a lie?

I think they're guilty of our girl's disappearance, I think.