Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

>>He filmed that just for you Howlin!!<<

Yikes!! My Mother always says be careful what you ask for, because you just might get it!

2,121 posted on 06/25/2005 10:58:56 PM PDT by sissyjane (Silk pajamas for dress up, and flannel for everyday-perfect Freeper wardrobe!!)

ALAN JORDAN, FRIEND OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: The last time I saw Natalee, we were leaving the club, and a friend of mine went back to the club because we were going to make sure that no one got left because we were leaving at closing. And we ran into her and asked her if she was OK. And she said yes and indicated that she was going back to the hotel with some other Mountain Brook students.

O'REILLY: So you saw her when the club was closing. Was she intoxicated?

JORDAN: She looked OK to me. I asked her if she was all right, and she said she was fine.

Both Jordan and Kissel state she was not intoxicated, and yet a couple of ladies from New Jersey reportedly saw her in the bathroom and said she looked to be in trouble. I am getting the feeling she was slipped GHB just prior to leaving.

2,122 posted on 06/25/2005 11:00:24 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)

To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...

From SM:

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:57 am Post subject:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER 6/27/2005

By David Wright in Aruba and Sharon Ward

****snip*****

The National Enquirer can reveal van der Sloot had an angry pushing match with Natalee's friends just hours before she vanished. The blow-up occurred on May 29 at Carlos'n'Charlies. It's a sprawling nightclub and dance club in the resort with booths and several bars that serve yard-high margaritas for $12. The club, a Mexican theme bar that offers us loud music and South of the Border food, was the place Natalee and her group decided to party before their scheduled flight home the next day.

Bryan Reynolds, 18, one of the 125 Alabama seniors on the Aruba trip, recalled that van der Sloot was chatting with Natalee and she seemed ill at ease with him. When it came time for her to leave, Natalee didn't seem to be bothered by van der Sloot. She left with him and the Kalpoe brothers.

****snip****

2,123 posted on 06/25/2005 11:01:16 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

To: sissyjane; CitizenM

Don't I know it!

Anyway, at least he didn't bring up Michael Jackson!

But I still feel dirty after I watch him.

2,124 posted on 06/25/2005 11:01:33 PM PDT by Howlin

and yet a couple of ladies from New Jersey reportedly saw her in the bathroom and said she looked to be in trouble. I am getting the feeling she was slipped GHB just prior to leaving

Its been reported that the couple of ladies from NJ mistook Natalee for one of the other students.

2,125 posted on 06/25/2005 11:03:10 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

Cell phone conversation regarding Joran, some Internet/Email access that was traceable, or some Internet picture/movie that is only known to LEA and the family ???

Didn't his internet site disappear very quickly once this started breaking open about Natalie being missing?

2,126 posted on 06/25/2005 11:03:50 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")

Well isn't that special .

Ya know --sometimes I'm just speechless.....

People can be pigs-to be kind.

2,127 posted on 06/25/2005 11:04:13 PM PDT by sissyjane (Silk pajamas for dress up, and flannel for everyday-perfect Freeper wardrobe!!)

I followed O.J.most of the time.The writer looser who came out against Mark-for what he thought were off the records remarks-well she looked like a TV moment and was happy to do it.Mark good detective-bad words.I can see her happy as she taped and him trusting her.

2,128 posted on 06/25/2005 11:04:26 PM PDT by fatima (Make a move and the Bunny gets it.-Guess what movie)

To: hummingbird; demkicker

Fox News reported that PvdS had contacted Croes looking for a job.

That particular Croes is the Justice Minister.

2,129 posted on 06/25/2005 11:05:36 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

By the way, where were Teddy Kennedy, William Smith, and Bill Bennett that night?

Passed out cold, with a ho, and on a roll.

2,130 posted on 06/25/2005 11:05:39 PM PDT by Yaelle

She's another embarassment for North Carolina.

2,131 posted on 06/25/2005 11:07:00 PM PDT by Howlin

If we don't go to bed, we're going to miss the "hearing" in the morning!

2,132 posted on 06/25/2005 11:09:51 PM PDT by Howlin

To: TexKat; maggiefluffs; Howlin; brigette; cajungirl

FROM SM FORUM: UNCONFIRMED INFO

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:05 pm Post subject: A very concise and detailed timeline from (WriteNow)

Thursday, May 26
??? Natalee & MBHS group arrive in Aruba/check in at Holiday Inn

Friday, May 27
MBHS group go on all-day snorkling trip

Saturday, May 28
?? ?Joran at Holiday Inn Casino gambling? meets Natalee for first time??

Sunday, May 29
5:00 pm Paulus van der Sloot returns to Aruba from Holland
7:00 pm Soul beach festival begins/Joran attends/Natalee attends
??? Joran gambles at Holiday Inn casino ??? meets Natalie for first time?
10:00 pm e-mail says Deepak off work at cybercafe/brother picks him up/goes home to change
11:00 pm Soul beach festival ends
11:00 pm Paulus picks up Joran at McDonalds to give him ride home
?? Joran picked up at home by Kalpoes/3 go to Carlos n Charlies

Monday, May 30
12:30 am Deepak, Satish & Joran arrive Carlos n Charlies
1:15-1:30 am Natalee & Joran leave Carlos n Charlies in Deepak Kalpoe’s car with his brother Satish
2:00 am Deepak & Satish return home??/Deepak off work all day??
2:30 am Joran calls Deepak for a ride
3:00 am Joran calls someone? Father?
3:15 am Deepak allegedly gets text message from Joran saying he’d found another ride
6:30 am Call to or from Joran’s cellphone in area of Santa Lucia
7:30 am Joran in school bragging about sex with Natalee -- also saying she drowned??
8:30 am MBHS group meets in lobby of Holiday Inn, first notice that Natalee is missing
?? am MBHS group leaves Aruba
12:00 pm (11:00 am CDT) Beth Holloway Twitty gets news of Natalee’s disappearance from chaperone
6:30 pm (5:30 CDT) Chartered jet leaves Birmingham with Beth & Jug Twitty & friends
11:00 pm Beth, Jug & friends land in Aruba

Tuesday, May 31
12:00 am Beth & group learn Joran’s name and address and call police
1:00 am Beth, Jug & MB group look at Holiday Inn casino video tape
2:00 am Beth, Jug & MB group to van der Sloot home with police/Paulus says Joran at a casino
2:30 am police, Paulus and MB group go to casino
3:00 am police, Paulus & MB group return to van der Sloot home/Joran& Deepak leaning on car in yard
3:15 am Joran takes group back to Holiday Inn to show where he dropped off Natalee??
3:30 am Group back to van der Sloot house
4:00 am Beth & group leave van der Sloots
7:30 am Joran in school?
??? Joran questioned by police and released

Wednesday, June 1
7:30 am Joran in school?
??? Anita van der Sloot returns to Aruba from Holland

Thursday, June 2
7:30 am Joran in school?

Friday, June 3
7:30 am Joran in school?/exams begin at International School of Aruba?

Saturday, June 4
Aruban government workers off work early to search island for Natalee

Sunday, June 5
6:30 am Antonius “Mickey” John & Abraham Jones arrested

Monday, June 6
7:30 am Joran in school?/exams begin at International School of Aruba

Tuesday, June 7
7:30 am Joran in school?/exams at school

Wednesday, June 8
7:30 am Joran in school?/last day of exams at school
press asks Aruban LE why 3 amigos not under arrest

Thursday, June 9
6:30 am Joran, Deepak & Satish arrested/cars, computers & other items confiscated from their homes
6:00 pm International School of Aruba senior graduation

Friday, June 10

Saturday, June 11

Sunday, June 12

Monday, June 13
11:00 pm Antonius “Mickey” John released from jail

Tuesday, June 14
12:30 am Abraham Jones released from jail

Wednesday, June 15
??? Police tell Steve G. Croes they want to talk to him

Thursday, June 16
??? am Steve G. Croes goes to police station and is questioned
??? Steve G. Croes goes to work @ Tattoo boat
??? Lorenzo van Rijn questioned by police
???? Max Arendsz questioned by police

Friday, June 17
6:30 am Steve Gregory Croes arrested

Saturday, June 18
8:00 am Rene van Heyningen found murdered “Columbian necktie”
van Heyningen’s body dumped in government cemetery
??? Paulus & Anita van der Sloot questioned by police
??? Sergio Gomez reported missing

Sunday, June 19
??? Paulus & Anita van der Sloot questioned by police

Monday, June 20

Tuesday, June 21
???? Beth & Greta go to van der Sloot home/talk to Paulus & Anita for 90 minutes

Wednesday, June 22
?? Paulus & Anita van der Sloot interviewed by Greta/FOX

Thursday, June 23
???? Paulus van der Sloot arrested when comes into police station
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2,133 posted on 06/25/2005 11:10:54 PM PDT by stlnative (BUT DON'T ASK ME TO BACK THAT UP OR CONFIRM IT)

Your too funny,who is the other one.I am hiding my eyes.

2,134 posted on 06/25/2005 11:10:54 PM PDT by fatima (Make a move and the Bunny gets it.-Guess what movie)

John Edwards for starters. :-)

2,135 posted on 06/25/2005 11:12:54 PM PDT by Howlin

So what is Mark's scorecard now after this-do you know..

I don't know what Mark's scorecard is, but I do know that he more or less accused Jennifer Lunsford's grandparents and father for Jennifer's disappearance. He was spouting that on Geraldo one night so shameful that even Geraldo had to cut Fuhrman short.

There is not too many of these talkmeisters I would give 2 cents for. This is a business, an income for them. They are getting paid to give their opinions whether it is right or wrong. They do not know anymore than you or I if they have not in a position to be assigned the case.

2,136 posted on 06/25/2005 11:14:21 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

If we don't go to bed, we're going to miss the "hearing" in the morning!

LOL, I've been trying to do that since 10 p.m..

Every night I try it and never succeed.

2,137 posted on 06/25/2005 11:16:14 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

2,138 posted on 06/25/2005 11:17:48 PM PDT by fatima (Make a move and the Bunny gets it.-Guess what movie)

When did he use a cellphone?

After he supposedly slipped out of the house after PVDS picked him up and brought him home. When Joran was on the beach with Natalee he phoned Deepak to come pick him up and about 30 minutes later text message Deepak to forget it, not to pick him up.

2,139 posted on 06/25/2005 11:21:30 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

To: varina davis

Wild thought -- what if Joran is covering for Dad??!!

If that is wild, I've had similar thoughts lately. What if Joran truly does not know what happened? What if he left her passed out or perhaps choking on her own vomit (if she was so drunk), went to get help from Daddy, stayed home, and Daddy never told Joran the end of the story (what he did with the body)?

2,140 posted on 06/25/2005 11:22:58 PM PDT by Yaelle

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