Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[Peach]

I haven't seen a transcript and would love to see one myself.

[CitizenM]

I do pray for a miracle. You got that right. With all the prayers going up, I hope they lift Natalee out into the light and someone finds her.

You keep praying. My prayer list is so long it takes me 15 minutes to go through it!!!

[the Deejay]

Did you see one kid in an 'view say NH said she wanted to "make sure", joran would be at C&C's on Sunday night?

Also, has anyone mentioned what NH was wearing Sunday night?
I'm just curious, b/c I've not heard anyone say.

[stlnative]

Should I even post this...(or will I have to go back and find it in black and white somewhere)

CNN is the only 24 hour news station they get in Aruba per Jug last night on the Greta's show or Hanity & Colmes.

This was something I just learned last night, which I didn't know before. They don't get MSNBC or FOXnews.
Unless the person has satellite?

[maggief]

Did I hear Geraldo is in Aruba? Heaven help us.

I heard Greta pulled big numbers on Thursday, hence the Fox News Alerts. D@mn annoying it is indeed.

[Peach]

I'm afraid I didn't hear that, Deejay. I'd love to see transcripts or a storyline put together that puts all these details together, in one place, and sourced.

[Howlin]

I heard him say that.

I guess that's why CNN is following Greta around......LOL.

[TexKat]

may have

Keywords (may have). That makes a difference, rather than the way I have read it posted earlier up the thread that more or less states that it was fact.

I will take a picture of it

I saw Greta showing the bar last night. I just could not recall her ("Greta said all 3 of them where in the Casino Bar "together" Sunday evening), as if they were actually gambling together, partying together, talking together, etc..

[spectre]

That's the point, Peach. They have kept all the evidence under tight wrap, and how that bit of info got out, is beyond me?

Besides,Joran may have lifted his Dad's ATM card...oops, I'm speculating again.

sw

[the Deejay]

I hope Geraldo doesn't screw
anything up down there.

Greta said they all had to be
out of their hotel rooms by
last night. Where is Geraldo
going to stay, if he's going
down there?

[ncpatriot]

What makes this story so interesting for me is that Greta, NH family, FR, and other lay persons are actually doing the investigation. I bet LE is following leads of the lay persons. Very interesting.

[TexKat]

She was wearing what she had on in the pic where her and 3 of her friends were hugging on the beach. A bluejean skirt and a spagetti printed top.

[Peach]

I listened to Greta last night and didn't hear her say that either, but admit to not listening as carefully as others do. Several freepers have said they heard that the two VDS's and NH were in the bar.

I would think it would be huge news and Greta would mention it more than in passing where we might miss a single sentence.

Not doubting anyone's reporting, just surprised it wasn't highlighted by Greta.

Greta on FNC now (replay).

[Rushmore Rocks]

Replay of Greta's "tour" on Fox right now.

[Palladin]

Geraldo will stay on his yacht.

[maggief]

Why do they have to leave their hotel rooms?

Greta replay on FNC>

[Peach]

Greta: Not certain how JVDS got to CS on 5/29-5/30 in the middle of the night. Father thought he was home in bed after picking kid up at McDonald's at 11:00.

[Palladin]

I searched a few forums, but never did see a source for that info about the ATM. No doubt it's a bit of news that was leaked out just before PVDS arrest. Jossy Mansour seemed to know a day before the arrest that it would happen. The ATM business may be part of the "poroibable cause".

Someone from the Cop Shop is bound to leak a little here and there in a laid-back place like Aruba.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

CitizenM, I was wondering if Joran is such a good boy and spent time with Natalee on the beach that fatal night, why would he leave her alone and not walk her home? Young kids like these, normally want to spend every minute together if there is some attraction.

I wonder also why he changed his story and the Kalpoe Bro's.? Could it just be me, but I believe (Joran) is a cold, calculating, and manipulative little Psychopath.

Pappa VDS, through his kinesis, is displaying all the signs of a player(perp) in this criminal investigation. I have to presume they all thought their lies had very long legs and would not be caught.

What is your take on this logic? I will go back into my survival bunker for a break. Gotta Fled. NSNR

[justche]

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