Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[vigilante2]

these guys never would have dreamed that they would have been caught or that it would have attracted world attention..Pops told them to keep their mouths shut and he would take care of everything..now he's sweating bullets

[spectre]

"Does Nat have brothers or sisters"?

CG, kcvl would know that answer.

sw

[stlnative]

I don't think Freddy is a Kalpoe...

Here is the picture... (he is on the right)
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/patchworkpiecer/satish_joran_deepak_freddy.jpg

[NCjim]

Hi there - how are things with you? I am having trouble keeping up with all this... being cubicle-bound all day does not help. *g

[stlnative]

ping to 1183

[cajungirl]

Are the dogs starting tonight or tomorrow? I dread them finding her. Can they smell bodies buried? I wonder how long it will take for them to cover the island?

I kind of think the truth is not a shocker. I think they gave her a drug, she died either as a result of the drug or a struggle with Joran. He called his dad who in a frenzy helped him get rid of the body. And the boys helped. And these people are not good criminals, they leave evidence around,,emails, phone calls, atm machines. so you know there is microscopic evidence. And I don't think Joran meant to kill her, just have sex with her. And I don't think he procured her for his dad or anyone else. This is just plain terrible and sad.

[sarasota]

MSNBC has Rev Graham interview right now.

[TexKat]

Does Nat have brothers or sisters?

As far as I have heard Natalee has a stepbrother by her stepfather and 2 stepsisters by her stepmother, not sure that the 2 stepsisters are by her real dad. But I would assume that it is.

If there is others I have not heard.

[TexKat]

Pic at #1183 The curly haired one is Freddy?

[Peach]

Greta interview: Kalpoe's attorney says there is privilege for the parents of an accused. They don't have to disclose anything their kid told them.

[cajungirl]

So she is her Mother's only child? Oh my, oh my.

[stlnative]

far right (in front of the guy with the red shirt)

[cajungirl]

I am so tired and have been out of it for a day or two,,,who is Freddy?

[spectre]

The only thing you left out was the "where" it happened.

I think maybe his apartment.

Joran was keenly aware that his father was in the justice system, and that he would be ruined if Joran had a dead girl on his hands. In a way, it was...blackmail. Of course none of them intended to kill her, but the cover up is the biggest sin, IMHO.

[cajungirl]

Where? On the beach. And he hid the body and came back for it.

[cajungirl]

You think the coverup was the biggest sin? I dunno, the murder or whatever seems worse to me. Maybe the coverup was a big mistake but whatever went before was bigger.

[TexKat]

I am so tired and have been out of it for a day or two,,,who is Freddy?

Freddy is one of Joran's buddies that is in a pic (see post #1183 ) with Joran that Freeper Big Jake http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1429067/posts?page=734#734 stated was Statish.

The guy in the middle is "Freddy", not Satish. He is pictured in a handful of photos drinking with JvdS.

Big Jake is incorrect.

[stlnative]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/patchworkpiecer/deepak_satish_1.jpg

[cajungirl]

Greta was inteerviewing Nat's aunt, her father's sister who looks alot like Nat's Mom. {what is it with all these Alabama ladies having long gorgeous highlighted hair}.

There was music and a party in the background, obviously at the hotel. And they were singing "Stayin' Alive",,I swear, I heard it with my own ears.

[TexKat]

From SM:

Friday, June 24, 2005

Update 8:15 PM

The full throttle search is anticipated to begin tomorrow. They are starting with three grids, one over water and two over land. They will cover those grids before moving on to additional grids based upon evidence or indicators that suggest one spot being more likely to be productive, than another.

Boats are expected to run 24/7 with two boats on the water at all times. In the event of a sonar hit, divers will be dispatched into the area.

There is a great deal of conflicting talk coming from the island. Some is consistent with much of what is in the news, other speculation is very different. Honestly, I can't ascertain the motivations, and in some cases the root source for some of what is being said.

Unfortunately, what I also cannot do is conclude that anyone has extablished beyond a reasonable doubt what really happened that night, or has even established a solid theory. As always in this case, that doesn't mean authorities don't have one; but if they do, they seem to be keeping a pretty good lid on that, as Dutch law requires.

It's quite possible that their necessary silence is leaving room for any number of theories and speculations that will prove unfounded.

Some individuals on the ground are still feeling very positive as regards the current cooperation of the Aruban authorities.