Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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[stlnative]

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[Accygirl]

Well, I for one am very glad that Joram Van Der Sloot won't be attending a U.S. college. That's one less jerk who is willing to slip Ecstasy into a girl's drink in order to date rape her.

[Pepper777]

" Report: 3 missing N.J. boys found dead inside car trunk."

So sorry to hear that. :( :(

[stlnative]

911 may have worked but no telling where the 911 call would have went to in the states.

[Peach]

CNN is going to carry the Tom Cruise meltdown any minute now.

[kcat]

I haven't caught up yet, but I think on John Gibson a night or two ago he mentioned that Beth said she thought Natalee was at the VDS house at 3 am but then Greta called in and said she did not think she heard Beth say that. Did anyone else hear that? I don't want to start anything or stop anything, but I think that is what I heard.

[hershey]

That's a good point. Those cell phones are tricky. A friend of mine went to Italy and spent quite a long time on the phone at work ordering an international cell phone and getting to work just right for her trip. She has a teenaged son at home to keep track of and planned to call home every day. He stayed with relatives, but he'd seen his dad drop dead of a heart attack when he was five or six, so it's only mom and Eric.

[Big Jake]

It was on JDVS's msnspace web page... the one is currently down. Freddy is in more than a few pictures and I would say probably Joran's best pal... if the pictures are any indication. Jaime is only in a couple of photos that I have seen. I would like to one pic with Satish, Joran, Deepak and Freddy, but the FR needs a URL link to source an image... not sure if I can get around that. any suggestions?

[TexKat]

Nice that Greta is so confident about her appearance that she put this on her gretawire. Neil Cavuto often reads emails that complain about the size of his head and his ties. He just laughs them off. Love that guy.

I like Greta. I guess she says take me or leave me but I am going to do and be what I damn well please. I admire her for that.

[Pepper777]

" How did they get put in without raising a commotion? Did they climb in themselves and slam the trunk shut themselves?""

Also, how did they get the car keys and open the trunk???? Wonder if the keys were inside of the trunk?? Horrible tragedy - no matter how it happened.

[Palladin]

Good observation about the contrasts between the two mothers (VDS and Kalpoe).

[stlnative]

It could be also she did not have her cell phone service up to date. I put in a code each month into my cell phone so that I know that I am getting the lastest/updated calling areas available. I have to do it for my husband also as he barely know how to use his cell phone even with me trying to show him time and time again how to.

On Verizon I believe it is *22 to upgrade/reprogram your phone for the current calling area.

[gingersnaps]

The slave trade scenario is terrifying. Implausible to most of us because it's like falling off the side of a UFO, but the slave/prostitution trade is a thriving industry down there. Lots of money to be made, and that's evidently what happened to that other young woman who was kidnapped off the cruise ship a few years ago. Evil. Reminds me of the pedophile rings in Thailand and those places that got hit by that tsunami. They seem so bizarre and unlikely, but predator pedophiles plan actual vacations there for that specific purpose.

That's exactly the way it seems to me -- like a crazy UFO story. But we know it happens.

The young woman who disappeared from the cruise ship -- was she petite? Someone said the slavers prefer them that way.

There was a pretty, petite young woman from New Jersey who disappeared from the Sandals resort in Jamaica a few years back. It was eerily like Natalee's case except she was older, late twenties I think. And she had long, brown hair. Her parents had to fight the Jamaican authorities too to get any American investigators in there. The parents also thought there were many employees at the resort who knew what had happened to their daughter, but no one would talk.

Finally they were able to get bloodhounds there to trace the girl's scent, but IIRC it led to a shore area and stopped. She was never found and no one was ever charged.

[stlnative]

I could give a rats-a$$ if Tom Cruise is going to jump off a bridge or have a melt down on CNN. Don't ping me.

[stlnative]

could = couldn't

[gingersnaps]

Oh, horrible. I am very sorry to hear that!

[Peach]

Your name was at the top of the page and since others have given off topic information to freepers, I had thought some might be interested. In fact, I believe that very topic was introduced on this thread. I don't understand your tone, brigette.

[monkeywrench]

You mean you have them on your hard drive? Can you upload them to photobucket?

[stlnative]

I don't understand your tone, brigette.

I am sorry that you don't.

[GarySpFc]

A friend of mine went to Italy and spent quite a long time on the phone at work ordering an international cell phone and getting to work just right for her trip. She has a teenaged son at home to keep track of and planned to call home every day.

You need an unlocked GSM world phone. They work with either T-Mobile or Cellular One serices. Indeed, T-Mobile will furnish one if you take their service, but you will have to have it unlocked so it will accept other SIM cards. When you go to another country all you have to do is purchase a SIM card which will work in the second country. We have two Motorola phones, V600 and V620, and use T-Mobile service here. When we travel to Russia we slip in our MegaFom SIM cards, purchase time cards, and we are in business. The MegaFon SIM cards remain in force as long as there is a positive balance.

[spectre]

You can ping me, Peach...I'll talk about Tom Cruise..big time! LOL..