Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3

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[stlnative]

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures - 
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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Show/Interview TranscriptsTranscript: Van der Sloots Speak Out - On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak Out
Thursday, June 23, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

Transcript: Natalee's Friends  Go On the Record with Greta- Fox News
Transcript: Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
Wednesday, June 22, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine as well a links to the pictures)

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This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

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[bonfire]

Been reading it but not posting with those "downers"!!

[Dark Skies]

I know...I am watching Fox News as we speak...and they are saying "premeditated."

It is getting damned stange.

[demkicker]

"He's very upset because today would have been a very great day for him," said Anita van der Sloot. "We would have made preparations for his study in the states, so he's very sad, but he's doing OK."

Boo-friggin-Hoo. The only cryin' towel I have is for the Holloway's & Twitty's and the many other friends & family members who just want to get Natalee back.

I DON'T GIVE A HOOT ABOUT JORAN VAN DER SLOOT!

[xsmommy]

i am so tired of people complaining about news stories. GOOD GRIEF, we don't get to pick the news or how it is covered,people need to just DEAL and turn off Fox if they aren't interested and pass these threads by, bc there are plenty of us who ARE totally gripped with this story.

[hershey]

I don't believe the Kalpoes were there if and when she died, but thought perhaps J called them up and demanded they help him get a boat, pressuring them with threats that they'd get arrested as accessories. Deepak knew the DJ, but that might be coincidence. Still rumor has it DJ has admitted someone wanted him to dump something at sea.

But Joran seems to have done as he pleased, staying out, gambling, drinking, maybe drugs, and his father didn't stop him, so Joran would have few fears about getting his father's help. This would make it plausible that he'd race home and involve his dad, whose livelihood and status on the island would plummet if this came out. Real fears for PVDS.

[Palladin]

That Anita Van Der Sloot is getting on my last nerve.

Wish someone would stifle her!

[Krodg]

I wonder why the brothers were the only ones wearing the tag? Were they the leaders of 'Da Gang'?

[stlnative]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1430112/posts

To: rawhide
I think they are saying the fathers involved in some way in the cover up. I read somewhere that the authorities down there checked the dads banking records and found he went to the ATM the night the girl disappeared 3 times at 300 am. and 3.45 am in the morning. Seems strange to need cash that late,but then again it's a party town. But I thought the mom said her husband was sound asleep? Who knows?



13 posted on 06/24/2005 5:31:10 PM CDT by Bush gal in LA
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[Dark Skies]

I am leaning toward calling my next pet (dog or cat) van der sloot...really rolls off the tongue.

Hey, "vannersloot," git yoor but in here...it's dinner time.

[the Deejay]

Beth KNOWS Natalee was in the VDS house.

Our scenario makes TONS of sense & likelihood.

But need to find the body. Yeah, I have to concede, at this point, they are looking for her body.

[bonfire]

She can't stop talking.........she's got to be hysterical. I do feel for her, but her family and friends have got to convince her to stop talking. For her own sake.

[Palladin]

I don't think the Kalpoes were on the beach with Joran and Natalee either. Joran is a big greedy lustful lout, and I just cannot picture him sharing any of his conquests with the Kalpoe boys, whom Anita VDS was careful to point out...are not REALLY Joran's best friends...more on the outer fringes. She is a nasty piece of work.

[hershey]

The ATM angle is very interesting, especially if they had to pay off the DJ for the boat trip. I thought J's mother came home after N was reported missing, like the next day. I didn't think she was in the house that night.

[bonfire]

So dad might have been out and about that night too. Do these people go to school or work in Aruba??? Good grief!!

[spectre]

You posted someone's quote:

"I read somewhere that the authorities down there checked the dads banking records and found he went to the ATM the night the girl disappeared 3 times at 300 am. and 3.45 am in the morning."

Oops, if he wasn't at the Casino losing big-time, he better have a good explanation for what could be "pay off money"..tsk, tsk.

sw

[Dark Skies]

Look at there faces...obsequious followers! (I think)

[Trust but Verify]

The problem with this scenario is that nobody saw PVDS out boozing with the kid. All indications are that he sneaked out and asked the Kalpoe's to pick him up and take him to C&C's, then left C&C's with Natalee.

I think it much more likely that daddy helped Joran after he messed up by hurting or killing Natalee. The boat DJ was most likely involved with the cover-up as well. One thing is for sure, one of them will crack and tell what happened.

[Palladin]

What kind of a lawyer do the Van der Sloots have, to let them get themselves in deeper and deeper with all these media interviews?

The father should have taken his own advice..."Say nothing, say othing".

And the mother, too.

I don't have much pity for her. She has reaped what she sowed.

[spectre]

If Pappa VdS paid someone off to dump her remains, then "what body"? Why are they holding Croes?

I pray Natalees Mother isn't reading this forum..

sw

[gingersnaps]

Greta really seems to have the inside scoop. Even my spouse who usually can't stand her thinks she's doing a great job on this one.

I'm happy to see her going in the direction that maybe the boys didn't kill Natalee because
(1) that gives me hope Natalee might still be alive
and (2) it's dreadful to think such seemingly nice young boys might have done such a terrible thing -- though I know Robert Chambers did.

(Though Robert Chambers might not have been quite what we thought he was. After posting his picture here next to Joran's, I did a little research on him. Linda Fairstein, the prosecutor who convicted him, complained that the media portrayed him falsely: He wasn't really the nice boy scholar type, but had already dropped out of school, was taking hard drugs and running with a tough crowd before he murdered Jennifer Levin.)

So Greta's my weathervane. If she starts pointing toward the boys my heart's going to sink. Prayers for Natalee and her parents.