Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2

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[stlnative]

FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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FR Quick Ping List (copy & paste) - active posters to the thread
(there is no real ping list - I really do not have one and I do not plan to make one)
Andy'smom;bonfire;brigette;kcvl;maggiefluffs;No Surrender No Retreat;Palladin;Rippersnapper;sarasota;TexKat;theophilusscribe

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

 

[texasbluebell]

Well, I can only guess ET. Is Aruba the same time as ET for us? Not sure. Someone else will know for sure.

[the Deejay]

I will always wonder if he was involved or if OJ covered for him.

By that, I think he was upset that his dad got away w/a double murder.

The son seems to be a very nice kid.

Besides, he was at work when the murders happened. LE checked him out immediately.

[vigilante2]

Hi Spectre


I think your right about keeping it simple and logical and I've slept on it one more night and I think I have it

The only cartel involved here is a cartel of young thugs on this island

I met a man recently who's 18 year old daughter died two years ago after she was given a date rape drug at a party..

I believe this is the most likely scenario in this case

I've been following this story as much as anybody else who has become obsessed with it and have read thousands of blogs and countless numbers of theories some good ones and some are crazy and some peoples minds are starting to run away with them probably due to all the strain on the brain from over the last few weeks trying to figure this all out

The creeps had the drugs in their pockets the whole time..It was all planned out however what they didn't anticipate was her death and disposing of her body..

They had little time to think and act about this so the first idea would be the easiest and fastest the shark feeding area where they could toss a body over the bridge and the last place anybody would want to go searching around

The one last thing they did have time for was to come up with alibies..

The reason for being up near the shark area that night was because they were going to the lighthouse

The reason for being over near the Hilton..Dropping the two off

around this area is where it all took place I suspect others were waiting on the beach

The foam with teeth impressions was put into somebodies mouth to stop them from screaming..condoms and women's panties..duct tape around a tree..security guard shirt with incriminating initials and a bottle of Lysol found as evidence

It is possible they could have first moved her body over to Lorenzo's basement to hide it and or to wait to see if she came around

it has always been my understanding that sharks don't like the taste of human flesh and blood and would most likely spit it out..

search for remains just under the middle of the bridge that crosses the shark area..use underwater cameras from a boat to perform this kind of search..

recovery could be made by Aruban Polis and young cartel suspects in this case under FBI supervision

Im still holding out hope however that it's only my imagination running away with me and she will soon be rescued from some kind of captivity

v

[Rippersnapper]

Well, I can only guess ET. Is Aruba the same time as ET for us? Not sure. Someone else will know for sure.

Like many of us actually change channels! LOL As soon as it starts there will be posts alerting everyone else! :)

[PBRSTREETGANG]

Is there really a limit on how many surgeries they can have?

Ask Michael Jackson.

[txrangerette]

Probably Eastern, but not because that is the same time in Aruba, but because Eastern is what time the News Media is always giving out, since they mostly come from the Eastern U.S.

[Rippersnapper]

I think he had a break at the time and it came out that he had threatened a past boss with a K-N-I-F-E.

[texasbluebell]

Yes, I just always assume it's ET if they don't say.

[the Deejay]

He genuinely liked & respected Nicole.
Unlike his dad.

[stlnative]

Aruba is on Eastern Time in the summer. In winter they are one hour ahead of eastern time. They don't follow "fall back" or "spring forward"... lol...

[utahagen]

I've always thought Jason was a wreck because he knew his father did it and that his father was a sociopath. Robert Kardashian looked aghast when the verdict was read, and later told larry King he'd come to believe OJ had done it. When they read the verdict, you could tell Kardashian was thinking, "O my God! I helped him get away with murder." I think Kardashian was a starf----- who helped OJ in the beginning and, when the guilt crept in, consoled himself that "He'd never be acquitted". Wrong! At least Kardashian, who died last year, came semi-clean before it was too late.

[maggief]

AM Digital - pdf

http://www.arubaam.com/~victor/am21jun05.pdf

Page 3

"He did not show up for his job for two days"

SYNOPSIS

Rene van Heyningen, ... born Jan. 12, 1973, lived at van Lennepstraat 17 in Sabana Basora. The beheaded body was found in bushes, near his grey truck, at government cemetery at Sabana Basora.

Worked at the refinery.

House owner is possible witness.

[the Deejay]

I've always thought Jason was a wreck because he knew his father did it

Same here.

Jason seems like a truly fine young man.....nothing like his dad, so said people that really know Jason.

[NCjim]

Mark for later

[Howlin]

Fox saying Natalee's mother meet wiht Joran's family today?

And that the mother is convinced Natalee was at that house at 3 a.m.?

[the Deejay]

A plague came upon the defense team.

Look what's happened to them since the vedict.

Johnnie Cochran got brain cancer & died.

Kardashian died? (I didn't know that.)

Shapiro is still trying to find a friend that will speak to him.

Flea Bailey has had a lot of law & financial problems and is a drunk.

[maggief]

(Probably some other guy)

Google search:

"Rene van Heyningen"

http://www.groenetechnieken.nl/pages_agt/proficiat2003.html

[the Deejay]

Yeah, apparently Greta took Beth to
meet the parents and Greta will give
more info on her show tonight.

[demkicker]

What?!!!!! Joran's mother is convinced that Natalee was their house (or what house) at 3:00 a.m.?

[Howlin]

I know that it moves the "ball" along, but there is just something so surreal about talk show hosts being involved in this like that.