Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2

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[stlnative]

FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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FR Quick Ping List (copy & paste) - active posters to the thread
(there is no real ping list - I really do not have one and I do not plan to make one)
Andy'smom;bonfire;brigette;kcvl;maggiefluffs;No Surrender No Retreat;Palladin;Rippersnapper;sarasota;TexKat;theophilusscribe

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

 

[maggief]

From SM:

Quick question-
Is this a picture of Steve Croes at work on the Tattoo? The man at the far right, with DJ headset on. He is also wearing a pilot's uniform, instead of the "Tattoo" t-shirts the other staff wear on the boat. I uploaded it to Imageshack:

http://img106.echo.cx/img106/6360/tattoo4copy4mo.jpg

Thanks for any insight, I think I found a bunch of pictures of him on the boat, but I'm not sure.

[eleni121]

That is him for sure...on the right.

[TexKat]

A source on the island tells me that he has confirmed that Joran was seen having a cream and wires attached to him in his location at the jail this evening

Do you suppose that Joran is taken a polygraph or what the hell is cream and wires.

What site did Riehl copy this info from? He is getting a lot of his info from SM and from FR .

[stlnative]

As this clearly departs from statements attributed to the Paulus Van der Sloot that he picked up Joran at a McDonalds at approximately 3 AM.

This is new rumors right? - It is very interesting that Daddy was called to drag his arse out of bed in the early morning hours to pick "meet up" with (cough...pick up) his son.

[Pepper777]

"" They didn't let her go off with the 3 guys. She had planned to walk with the group ahead. Two of the guys were already in the car, so she couldn't have walked off with them. I think on her way to catching up with the group ahead that Sloot grabbed her and shoved her into the waiting car, driven by Deepak. ""

Rippersnapper, I agree with your above quoted post. I also do not feel Natalee went *willing* with those 3 guys. She clearly told her friends, she was headed back to the hotel.

[TexKat]

Okay you two, Paulus says he picked Joran up at 3 a.m.. It was just reported on Greta that The Tatto pulls back into dock at 3 a.m..

[Rippersnapper]

This is the T-shirt that people in Aruba should be wearing.

WHERE IS NATALEE?

[maggief]

Perhaps he pm'd the poster. Someone claiming to be a family member posted on Riehl's blog that Papa was spotted at McD's at 3:00. The latest, that he was picking up the kid is news to me.

[MrNatural]

Wasn't there a report that the McDonald's closes at 1:00am? Anyone?

[Howlin]

I just cannot keep up; can you (most kindly) give the the latest "latest version" of their story about what happened?

The father now says he went and picked up Joran?

[Rippersnapper]

The party boat comes in at 3 a.m.

Is it near the McDonald's?

[maggief]

Here are the "family member's" posts from Riehl:

Quote:
I'm in Mountain Brook and from the people who have recently returned from Aruba is that Van der Sloot's dad was seen at a McDonald's at 3 a.m. the night Natalee disappeared.

I don't think this has been reported in the mainstream media so hopefully this will help those of of you who are following this closely. This is my first post here and I'm posting something I think all of you might find significant.

Natalee goes missing at about 1 to 1:30 a.m. and the Van der Sloot's dad is seen at a McDonalds at 3a.m. I assume the dad has a job and would have to be at work the next day. There to me it is very suspicious.......


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Arubagirl, thanks for the info. I'm just repeating what I've heard in the hopes that the people here will find it helpful. Since McDonald's closes at 1 am, myabe he was at another fast food joint at 3 a.m. and maybe he was at McDonald's even though it was closed. I don't know. But this info was given to me by a family member and FWIW, the fact that father was out that late is why he is not being allowed to see his son in prison. His behavior that night is considered to be very suspicious.


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Arubagirl, it sounds like you doubt me. While the "where" of my post may be wrong, I am very confident that the dad was out at 3 a.m. and that the authorities are extremely suspicious.

Hint: the person who told me this has the last name of Twitty.


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Moey, Jan, the point I'm trying to get across is this: he was seen somewhere - I heard McDonalds - at 3 a.m. , the authorities are so suspicious that they won't allow him to see Joran in jail.

[Rippersnapper]

I no longer put much credence in the sex slavery angle. No mafioso in his right mind would take a chance of snatching the daughter of a mother like that!

Doesn't have to be mafioso and they wouldn't have known what her mother was like.

[stlnative]

I think it docks by the Marriott

[Otta B Sleepin]

Wasn't there a report that the McDonald's closes at 1:00am?

Yes, there was. I think it came from someone living on the island.

[maggief]

Greta was at the hotel where it docks, not the Mariott, but I can't recall.

[Rippersnapper]

Glad your nephew is safe and was able to think clearly under pressure!

[stlnative]

I have Greta on my Tivo. I will have to run through it again.

[elli1]

I would imagine it might be common among locals, or older people, but I doubt that it is common amongst young, responsible teens that have early flights in the morning. Responsible, intelligent teens that hadn't planned to go anywhere except back to their hotel, where being responsible as they are, they already had their bags packed so they wouldn't be rushed in the morning. Yep, I doubt very many responsible teens, eager to get home and ready themselves for college decide to blow off their flight home. jmo

Uh huh. Please explain how the beach patrol person is in a position to know the details of any one tourist's character.

[maggief]

Excellent.