Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2

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FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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FR Quick Ping List (copy & paste) - active posters to the thread
(there is no real ping list - I really do not have one and I do not plan to make one)
Andy'smom;bonfire;brigette;kcvl;maggiefluffs;No Surrender No Retreat;Palladin;Rippersnapper;sarasota;TexKat;theophilusscribe

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

 

[No Surrender No Retreat]

I hope so and thank you for the info. NSNR

[GnuHere]

You mean this is even below the European standards for fatherhood?

[GnuHere]

She makes the hands-on approach sound great, yet some of her interview questions last week seemed to reflect that she was not acquainted with some of the most basic facts of the case and about Aruba. Maybe tonight she'll be more with it.

[Miss Marple]

Oh, is Clean Sweep on? Off to the TV...I am tired and need to veg out.

[HoHoeHeaux]

Thanks very much Tex and Palladin!

[cajungirl]

Nat's Mom on Greta looking strong. Describes how arrogant Joran was the night she met him, says she knew then he was involved. Mom looks much better, I hope that is a good sign.

[TexKat]

Beth Holloway Twitty: the only new development is the 4th suspect.

Family is searching everyday. Beth says she is getting her face out in the public in Arubu. Says they will not leave.

Beth thought it was a fabulous idea that Paulus was brought in for questioning. Does not know why Paulus was brought in but would love to know why. They are going for everything that they can do. Has no idea how Steve Croes is connected. Beth has a lot of family and friends to help her, but she does have her moments. She thinks that the citizens of Aruba have been helpful. Not to Beth's knowledge had Natalee met the 3 that are in custody. Beth has no doubt that the 3 suspects in custody knows.

The night that Beth arrived in Aruba and was in the presence of Joran he walked up to the car she was sitting in and Beth had a picture of Natalee in her hand. Beth said to Joran "I want my daughter I want her now".

Joran hit his chest and threw his head back and said what do you want me to do, what do you want me to do.

[WestCoastGal]

Greta's interview with Natalee's Mother was good.

Her description of her encounter with sloot after she arrived on the island. She told him, "I want my daughter back".."He was condescending and arrogant" He threw his head back and hit his chest saying "what do you want me to do, what do you want me to do"

[MAWG]

I thought she looked good too. She sounded strong. She seemed to know something. She said she really believed the case was moving in the right direction. I hope so.

[Palladin]

You're welcome!

Greta on now...some new info. She just spoke to Beth Twitty who says she knew instantly that the three boys had something to do with Natalee's disappearance--she held up Nat.'s phot and said to Joran "I want my daughter back now". Sloot was haughty and arrogant, sneered at her "What do you want ME to do about it?"

[cajungirl]

Big change in the Mom in the last few days,,,she thought things would move fast now. God, she is tough.

[TexKat]

Jossy Mansur managing editor of Dario stated that he thinks that LE will come back for Paulus. Jossy said that Paulus was/is a prosecutor. Jossy hears different descriptons on the 3 suspects.

The party boat comes in at 3 a.m.

[cajungirl]

Interesting about the party boat.

The Mom looks so good, it is hard to believe that she may be dead, the Mother looks like she knows she isn't. I just don't know anymore.

[Palladin]

Coming up next on Greta...one of Natalee's classmates who was with her on the trip.

Greta says an email led police to Croese?? She spoke with Jossy Mansur, editor of Diario. He sai he heard that Joran was a "maniac". Jossy also said the Tattoo party boat docked at right around the time the three suspects said they went to the beach.

Greta's going to show the suspects' homes and where they worked...

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

Heads up! Texas Search man on Scarboroough.

[TexKat]

On Greta:

Dash saw Joran and saw Joran and Natalee leave C&C. Dash thought Joran was just another tourist.

Later she saw Natalee with who she assumed was Joran because of his height and dark hair. Dash said she did not expect Natalee to go with Joran. Dash is unaware of any of the other students saw Natalee after she did.

[Rippersnapper]

It didn't sound like there was much in the cell to do himself in with. What would he try to kill himself with?

[TexKat]

Joran's remarks "What do you want me to do, what do you want me to do", puzzles me.

[NCjim]

Mark for now

[Rippersnapper]

There are new people joining the thread, some just pop in for the updates or latest, some won't be reading the previous 4,000 posts, so I just scroll past the repeat postings.