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Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Link to Previous Thread ^ | 6/20/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/19/2005 10:14:36 PM PDT by stlnative

FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923


FR Quick Ping List (copy & paste) - active posters to the thread
(there is no real ping list - I really do not have one and I do not plan to make one)
Andy'smom;bonfire;brigette;kcvl;maggiefluffs;No Surrender No Retreat;Palladin;Rippersnapper;sarasota;TexKat;theophilusscribe


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)


 


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KEYWORDS: aruba; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; ghb; holloway; joran; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot
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To: Rippersnapper

Wonder why that beach patrol member chose to not file any info.

Don't know if it's fact or just a suggestion but someone posted to me that the beach patrol person thought she had gone off on a fling. I imagine that's not a rare occurence. People get to thinking, 'I'm already here. What's the rush in going home?' Or they get drunk & miss the plane, get shacked up... Less of an alarm in tourist areas & with people on vacation, I would think, than it usually is back home.

401 posted on 06/20/2005 5:18:09 PM PDT by elli1
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To: spectre; All

I missed BOR, but Clint Van Zandt was on MSNBC earlier. He's the former FBI profiler who has usually been pretty spot on in prior missing persons cases.

He said he doesn't believe for a minute she was kidnapped for white slavery etc. He said the three boys are the key to what happened. Aruba is about the size of DC and look how long it took them to find Chandra, a year! She is probably there somewhere and what happened to her was not good!!


402 posted on 06/20/2005 5:18:51 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Jr: “Heh.. that’s about the coolest thing that can happen. Other than a win or a great pass ~L Dog)
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To: spectre

Bump!! :>)


403 posted on 06/20/2005 5:21:28 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat; All

I had to go peek at her blog....not much yet.



On the Ground
Monday, June 20, 2005
By Greta Van Susteren



It is indeed true: I'm back on an airplane. We are taking the show back "on the road" to Aruba (search). As you read this, I am headed south. Aruba is only a short distance from Venezuela — so the flight is long (including a change of planes.)

Over the weekend there have been several developments and we have a number of interviews set up about these developments. We could do the interviews remotely — from our studios in Washington, D.C. — but it is also true that we can do a better job if we actually go to Aruba and do the interviews in person.

Prior to doing the interviews — and what makes our work better when we go to a story — is that we actually visit the various scenes about which we talk. We meet many people who we don't interview but who educate us better about the events thereby making our work better. Our interviews are thus more intimate with the facts of the case and we get you closer to the investigation. There is nothing like seeing it with your own eyes and if you can't be there to see it with your own eyes, the next best thing is for the anchor to do it and attempt to place you there.


404 posted on 06/20/2005 5:22:18 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Jr: “Heh.. that’s about the coolest thing that can happen. Other than a win or a great pass ~L Dog)
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To: monkeywrench; All
Of topic..Bill O'Reilly just banned congressman Weldon from ever appearing on the factor again..since he didn't bother to call and cancel his guest appearance this evening.

sw

405 posted on 06/20/2005 5:22:53 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (What happens in Aruba..stays in Aruba))
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To: theophilusscribe

No. A cyberspace meeting wouldn't work. : )

Believe it or not, Internet proscratination is a big problem w/grad students/professors. So much of our work is done online that it is easy to 'slip' and wind up on FR instead of that academic journal you logged on to read.

Plus, w/always on broadband, even if you aren't working online, that evil Internet is just a click away. There are whole threads on academic message boards devoted to how not to waste time online. I probably would have finished my dissertation proposal a month earlier if it hadn't been for FR!


406 posted on 06/20/2005 5:24:21 PM PDT by radiohead
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To: WestCoastGal

Bingo.


408 posted on 06/20/2005 5:25:28 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (What happens in Aruba..stays in Aruba))
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To: Swanks
This:

Sr. VDS is: 'not a judge', (we knew that), 'not an attorney' (what's up with that) and 'therefore not a high ranking official'. (still a dork whether high or low ranking)

has been known for a couple of weeks. In the Dutch law system, you do not have to be a lawyer in order to be a judge. You have to pass a test.

409 posted on 06/20/2005 5:25:48 PM PDT by blu (This post edited for brevity.)
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To: spectre
Wahhh!!! I'm sure he'll be all busted up over that! Bill O', the petty American as well as the ugly one.

It's not like Weldon would've gotten a word in edgewise, anyway. Bill could've put a cardboard cut out of Weldon in the guest chair, and just done a typical interview.

410 posted on 06/20/2005 5:25:59 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: spectre
Of topic..Bill O'Reilly just banned congressman Weldon from ever appearing on the factor again..since he didn't bother to call and cancel his guest appearance this evening.

I've always wonder why anyone would want to go on The Fuctor anyway. It puzzles me.

411 posted on 06/20/2005 5:26:30 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Lizarde

Good point. Yeah, he's gonna feel like a real jerk if Weldon was in an accident, or he had a horrible family emergency. Go figure??


412 posted on 06/20/2005 5:27:14 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (What happens in Aruba..stays in Aruba))
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To: monkeywrench; spectre

Now you know that you are branded a coward if you do not accept an invitation to appear on The Fuctor.


413 posted on 06/20/2005 5:28:45 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: monkeywrench; TexKat

OMG..you two are cracking us up. It's funny, but true.


414 posted on 06/20/2005 5:30:05 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (What happens in Aruba..stays in Aruba))
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To: TexKat
TexKat...is Fuctor an obscene word or an obscure word? grins...
415 posted on 06/20/2005 5:32:35 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (What happens in Aruba..stays in Aruba))
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To: Lizarde

OK....I thought maybe it was a naughty word...LOL.


417 posted on 06/20/2005 5:40:31 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (What happens in Aruba..stays in Aruba))
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To: radiohead
There are whole threads on academic message boards devoted to how not to waste time online.

That's hilarious, radiohead!

By the way, congratulations for being Phinally Done . . . Fantastic accomplishment!

418 posted on 06/20/2005 5:41:10 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: soundandvision
What you don't seem to understand is that the MSM saturates the TV with stories like this ALL THE TIME. (Elizabeth Smart, Michael Jackson, Chandra Levy, Scott Peterson, etc...) Your comments about the MSM and the problem you have with it is not for this type of thread, just because you "think" that the Natalee case is getting too much coverage or because you are tired of it. If you are tired of it, why in the world would you come to a Natalee Holloway Thread?

It is so obvious this thread is not about how much the MSM is covering the story on the networks. If you want to whine about the MSM, start your own vanity thread about how the MSM is in general, because the Natalee Holloway case is not getting anymore coverage that any of the others I mentioned above.

You are not commenting about how the MSM is getting the facts wrong about the case from time to time, you are whining on how you think the MSM is covering the case too much. It is also insulting to almost all of us that someone thinks they can come in here and tell "US" what we they think we should be debating or discussing. If you are sick of hearing (or reading) about Natalee Holloway, turn your TV off and hop on out of this thread.

I am done trying to get my point across to you. You may not be a FR troll in general, but you are presenting yourself as a Natalee Holloway Thread "troll". I know you are fairly new to FR, but these type of case threads have been going on for a very long time on FR as each case happens in time.
419 posted on 06/20/2005 5:42:29 PM PDT by stlnative (I have tons of sharp cheese to hand out to the Natalee thread whiners. :-))
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To: spectre
TexKat...is Fuctor an obscene word or an obscure word? grins...

:>) It can be whatever one wants it to be!!

420 posted on 06/20/2005 5:45:23 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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