Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2

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FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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FR Quick Ping List (copy & paste) - active posters to the thread
(there is no real ping list - I really do not have one and I do not plan to make one)
Andy'smom;bonfire;brigette;kcvl;maggiefluffs;No Surrender No Retreat;Palladin;Rippersnapper;sarasota;TexKat;theophilusscribe

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

 

[Rippersnapper]

Croes being held 8 more days

[spectre]

So now we are supposed to "speculate" why they are holding Croes? It's one nasty game they play down there in Aruba.

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[Rippersnapper]

Well we know Croes was called. Did Daddy and Joran take her body to Croes, and then they all went up to the Natural Bridge (shark feeding area).

I'm thinking no. Why involve another person? The more peole that know, the more likely for someone to crack. Sloot has lived on the island most of his life. The natural bridge doesn't look that hard to find and its out in the open, based on the shots Johnathon Serrie (sp) keeps showing.

Earlier there was a snip from one of the links that mentioned that some people that go on the party cruises are wearing drugs under their clothes, for smuggling. That means these party boats do meat up with nefarious individuals at some point.

[WestCoastGal]

I wonder what, if anything, they have to show the judge in order to hold them for the first 8 days?

Or, is Aruba just making this up as they go. Since we all know it's such a perfect place and nothing bad ever happens there. /sarc

[monkeywrench]

Bill O' is the best example of 'the ugly American' I can think of, at times.

[soundandvision]

You took the words right out of my mouth, Sarasota. All of those polls that say that the public is fed up with the MSM..I think, in part, can be attributed to these antics.

[Rippersnapper]

Why do you want #214 removed? There has been worse gossip spewed, like Natalee has run away before. (no evidence pointing to that) That Natalee was drunk and took off for a last minute island fling. (Again, no evidence to support her being drunk. Her friends said she was not drunk.) I think they are telling the truth. She was neat and organized. Not everyone wants to be hung over on their flight back home.

[hobbes1]

Is that John Doe #2????

[Rippersnapper]

I think our media is doing a great job. Were it not for our media we wouldn't know how negligent the Arubian police have been. Without our media, I think this whole event would have been swept under the rug a LONG time ago. jmo

[varina davis]

CG, I really don't believe anyone here is "trying to smear" this young girl. A forum is to discuss possibilities, etc., be they popular theories or not.

I'm sure her parents won't rest until answers are forthcoming.

[Rippersnapper]

As long as they were on beach patrol they should have reported their results. If her flight was for a few days later, maybe, but what RESPONSIBLE teen MISSES their flight? She was a responsible person. To assume this was a fling is just another act of negligence. jmo

[TexKat]

Is that John Doe #2????

Has he dug a tunnel, escaped and made it to Aruba already? :>)

[Rippersnapper]

I wonder what, if anything, they have to show the judge in order to hold them for the first 8 days?

Don't know, but my guess at this point is that the phone call might be the link.

What will be interesting is what happens when these 8 days are up for Sloot and the brothers. Will they continue to be detained or let go?

[eleni121]

If they are let go and there is no resolution/confession - Aruba's economy will go even further down the drain.

[Rippersnapper]

What surprises me is that we still have not see Sloot's 'BEST FRIEND' pulled into this. Jamie. Why not?

[johnb838]

She told Greta she knew she had to get down there right then when she found out. If she couldn't get on a plane right away she probably started making phone calls. If she knew of a corp jet and was able to get it diverted under these circumstances, she would have.

[soundandvision]

I'm not trying to be disagreeable -- I just disagree. I would give them a "D". The only reason for not going with an "F" is because they have kep this story alive. The bad part is...

...IT'S ALL THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!

It's not like there's a war going on with American soldiers involved, or anything.

[johnb838]

it's essentially Mayberry surrounded by serenity.

That's too easy on them. This is more like the Las Vegas of the Caribbean. There is a casino in every hotel. It may be small time, but there has got to be hustling galore with all that gambling. There has to be.

[demkicker]

The scenario you gave in post #80 sent a shiver up my spine. I hope it isn't true, but it sure sounds like a very rational explanation as to what happened to Natalee.

[spectre]

Thank you, dem. I added the part about the father, just in case..:)

Joran could have asked anyone for help disposing of her remains from there.