Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2

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FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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FR Quick Ping List (copy & paste) - active posters to the thread
(there is no real ping list - I really do not have one and I do not plan to make one)
Andy'smom;bonfire;brigette;kcvl;maggiefluffs;No Surrender No Retreat;Palladin;Rippersnapper;sarasota;TexKat;theophilusscribe

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

 

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none really... only that Croes was or is due in court today to see if they have enough on him to hold him.

[jacquej]

never mind, went back to the frist page, and found it...

[stlnative]

read post 197 (map link there with locations stated for that map)

[blub]

Is there a name out there yet for the man who was murdered in Aruba over the weekend? Also isn't there another Aruba man missing and does any have his name yet? (something about the found the guys truck but not him yet.)

The partially-decapitated guy was RENEE VAN HANEGEM. The other one who is still missing is .... I forgot. It's a Hispanic-sounding name and here's the source: www.hasibokos.com. For some reason it's not loading for me.

[stlnative]

So the missing man may be the killer of this Renee person.
Thanks for the info.

[spectre]

So maybe they have phone records connecting Jorn to Croes that evening or perhaps afterward... EVEN if Jorn's father wasn't involved.

What's troubling about the case is that the boys had two weeks on their own to get their act together.

It's clear that this crime is dependent on finding a body. That's why someone had to get rid of it so that it would NEVER be found. It's so elementary :) No confession is likely to be forthcoming...

So now what??

[maggief]

What's up with Paul? Any leaks?

[Otta B Sleepin]

I believe the missing man's name is Sergio Gomez....?

[TexKat]

The partially-decapitated guy was RENEE VAN HANEGEM. The other one who is still missing is .... I forgot. It's a Hispanic-sounding name

Sergio Gomez

[stlnative]

Only that Paulus is considered a witness.
This is most likely why he will not be able to see his son anymore. They may be working on arresting Paulus.

I have not hit the other boards yet to see what is being said.

[elli1]

Did some digging. McWane, Inc., (foundry conglomerate) supplied the jet. Jug Twitty, the stepdad, is a 'manager for Phoenix Metals in Birmingham'. The mother is a speech-pathologist for little kids. As far as I can tell, Phoenix Metals isn't part of McWane, Inc.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:l7X9-Kb3b80J:www.al.com/printer/printer.ssf%3F/base/news/1118222305169320.xml%26coll%3D2+twitty+mcwane&hl=en

[maggief]

I found this, (sorry if it's a repost) ...

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/

Aruba: Decapitation Story Confirmed

A reliable source on the island of Aruba has confirmed reports of a recent murder / decapitation, and also confirmed reports of another murder currently under investigation in Aruba. A third report regarding a possible new missing person report filed today has not been confirmed at this time.

Additionally, sources close to the Natalee Holloway investigation have indicated to me that there appear to be serious problems developing in establishing a consistent time lime of events surrounding Natalee's disappearance. Problems stem from conflicts among stories by those being questioned, a growing list which now includes Father of Joran v d Sloot, Paulus v d Sloot.

It's possible that the time line as presented by the elder vd Sloot does not fit with other knowable facts in the case, resulting in his having been brought back for additional questioning.

Additionally, from other contacts who are known to be observing the Natalee Holloway investigation very closely on the ground in Aruba, there is growing concern that some of the lack of clarity in the troubling case could be the result of an attempt to minimize the impact of this tragic case on the tourism industry of Aruba.

While differences do exist between the system of justice in Aruba and a watchful America, many Americans are coming to feel more and more dissatisfied from an apparent lack of accountability to the public by Aruban authorities.

Developing, hope to have more tomorrow.

Update: An initial report suggests the decapitation may have had something to do with drug trafficking as some say the head was actually sent back to Columbia. That is unconfirmed.

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RENEE VAN HANEGEM (he is dutch)
Sergio Gomez (getting hits that this is a Columbian name)

[Quilla]

I understand the McWane's and Twitty's are close friends, a friendship stemming from the similarities of McWane Intl. and Phoenix Metals. Mr. McWane had initially offered to put up any monies required for Natalee's release should kidnapping or "sale" be the case. I'm sure that offer is still on the table. It was his jet the Twitty's used for the initial flight to Aruba.

[Malichi]

bookmark

[kcat]

You deleted a post similar to post #214 a week or so ago for me. Please do so again. The parties involved are not interested in having this posted. Quilla, please quit posting this gossip.

[stlnative]

Aruba Guy on FOX says the Northwest side (by the California Lighthouse) of the island would not be a good place to throw a body in as it would be washed ashore. BUT the beach area near the hotels (southwest left side of the island would be a good place to throw something in the water as it would be pulled out to sea.

[theophilusscribe]

MiMi

PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:05 pm

Paulus van der Sloot has also been suspended from his duties as judge-in-training by the court of the Dutch Antilles and Aruba. (Not yet confirmed by FOX News, but this comes from Hasibkos)

[Quilla]

It has been reported by many news sources that the Twitty's flew down on a McWane jet. A business associate of mine in Birmingham mentioned it to me before I read it in print. They descried the monetary offer as well. Why is it unlikely that a friend of the family would make such an offer?

[spectre]

I can't help but wonder how many lives have been adversely affected because of the cover up of Natalee's disappearance. Just a thought...