Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2

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[stlnative]

FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts?q=1&&page=1#1

Aruba Info...

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

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FR Quick Ping List (copy & paste) - active posters to the thread
(there is no real ping list - I really do not have one and I do not plan to make one)
Andy'smom;bonfire;brigette;kcvl;maggiefluffs;No Surrender No Retreat;Palladin;Rippersnapper;sarasota;TexKat;theophilusscribe

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Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

 

[cherry]

what have I said ?????....that she appeared a bit too cheery today.....that's it....

honestly......

[Howlin]

Anyone can see that this whole thing was set up to portray the Van der Sloots in the same light as Beth Holloway--as agonizing parents.

Precisely!

I wonder if it has crossed those people's minds to do something -- anything -- how about the RIGHT THING?-- for instance, go down to the jail and tell their so to TELL THE DAMN TRUTH. I mean, is that so hard to do?

I have thought long and hard about this -- and I just cannot EVER think of ANY situation where I wouldn't go down there and smack the crap out of my kid, regardless of their age, and MAKE them tell the truth.

A MOTHER KNOWS........we all know they KNOW!

And I'm sorry, but something IS going on here; you just do NOT question a punk 17 year old for 11 hours a day for almost three weeks and NOT have the answers!

I shall now retreat, as I have had my *fit* for the night......LOL.

[maggief]

I saw her, and like I said before she exhibits gracious tenacity, IMO.

Perhaps she's following her Christian teachings. *gasp*

[kcvl]

We see, read and hear a lot more here on FR than most people get from FNC or cable in general.

And SOME OF US are friends with one of Natalee's aunts! But don't let that fact stop you from trashing Natalee's mother. You really don't know what you are talking about and proved it.

[presently no screen name]

That's what I was thinking - if Joran were truly innocent - his family would be out searching BIG TIME - if for no other reason to help their son prove his innocence. Not now BUT weeks ago.

[eleni121]

#1754 is what you wrote...sadly.

[pnz1]

At 17, Joran is still considered a minor in Aruba? Does that make any difference if they do convict him?

[Howlin]

You're beating a dead horse, cherry.

Nobody agrees with your characterization of her.

[Palladin]

lying scum Eurotrash

I'll drink to that!

[stlnative]

Some of Natalee's people went to the school on Thursday. They went in to talk to the head master of the school while hanging up flyers. Someone from Natalee's group asked if Joran was in school on Monday and Tuesday. Headmaster said he thinks so but that he would have to check the records.

It still has not been told to Natalee's family if Joran was in school on Monday.

[Howlin]

I have no idea what their laws are down there; it appears that they have to prove their case beyond a shadow of a doubt before the even charge somebody.

Of course, if there is no body or no proof of a crime, they all walk.

[cherry]

IIRC...you did get mad and took a lot of your links and postings somewhere...you definately stuck out on your own....but in what form, I don't remember...

[maggief]

So, how do I turn that #@!$ little speaker off?!?

:-(

[kcvl]

I have been fully supportive of her, but that stunt turned me off.

I guess you had better tell Greta about "that stunt" because she was fully aware of what was going on. You are absolutely clueless!

[eleni121]

"lying scum Eurotrash"

I'll drink to that!

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I'll pour another thanks!

[Nita Nupress]

she needs to project a sad figure on a mission to find her dtr.... she needs to keep garnering sympathy....

IMHO, she needs to not give a rat's hiney what the Aruban's think of her. She needs to be herself. Who cares what they think? Or what we think, for that matter. This woman is on a mission to bring her daughter home and will not stop until it's done. The quickest way the Arubans can get rid of her is to help her find her daughter so she can leave and get out of their hair.

Besides all that, if she doesn't do this, she'll fall apart. This is her coping mechanism. The woman literally has no choice if she wants to keep herself together long enough to help find Natalee.

[Howlin]

IIRC...you did get mad and took a lot of your links and postings somewhere...you definately stuck out on your own....but in what form, I don't remember...

Are we discussing people's posting habits on these thread?

If so, we can talk about some of yours.

[Toespi]

Seems as though Jug wants it all. Just last week he called Joran's father a slimeball on or something of that nature, showed up at their home at 3:00 am with a posse from Alabama demanding answers and now this week he wants him out looking for Natalie and wearing a bracelet. Until I knew all the facts regarding my son's involvement, I would be furious with the accusations being made against my family, and so would everyone else if the situation were reversed, betcha even Jug would be a little fired up.

[stlnative]

How the HELL can I take anything off of FR and with me?
Once it is there it there.

You are really reaching...

[Nita Nupress]

Does Greta rerun during the night? I was making a German chocolate cake earlier and only heard bits & pieces of it.