Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1

I think you are right.

And guess what, whilst following the Caruana/ contrera Casa Nostra around the net I found links to Muslim Brotherhood groups,,it is all there, the link between gangsters and terrorists.

And I found some Mansurs, you know the powerful intimidating family now running things in Aruba. Well I found some who are connected to Muslim Brotherhood living in Germany. I wonder if it is the same family. They are referred to as Lebanese on Aruba but Egyptian in Germany. And they objected to posts about them on another site.

This is a web of ugly stuff, like a whole new world.

1,041 posted on 06/18/2005 9:37:10 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)

1,042 posted on 06/18/2005 9:48:28 AM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

Isn't it interesting how you noticed that, filed it away, and now it makes sense.

And the comment about the police "not being cowboys" struck me too. It was like, wait, we are your big customers, we fly down there and spend our money on your island so why dissing the President.At that moment I suspected something, like he was part of the Chirac/Chretian connection.

We are good here, we should work for the FBI.

1,043 posted on 06/18/2005 9:57:39 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)

You know, a whole new war could break out as a result of this disappearance of one teen from Alabama. There certainly are signs of international intrigue: worldwide crime - drugs - terrorists - mafia - money laundering - illegal import/export traffic - sex trafficking - kidnapping - murder - political and government entanglements - what else? Illegal sale of guns and weapons will be next I suppose.

Ahhhh, beautiful, "quiet" Aruba...the isle of ~~dreams~~ nightmares!

1,044 posted on 06/18/2005 9:57:43 AM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)

Threatening emails to Alabama...probably from Rona Coster! ;)

1,045 posted on 06/18/2005 9:57:49 AM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)

Right,,they look helpless and frightened.

1,046 posted on 06/18/2005 10:01:15 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)

It is a book, believe me.

This was alluded to in the second season of the Wire. The international drug and human trafficking, infiltration of the FBI, the use of the Baltimore harbor, connection to local druggers.

John Grisham should do it. Or Tom clancy. It is a book.

1,047 posted on 06/18/2005 10:05:17 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)

I believe Mansur or Mansour is a typical Lebanese name.

1,048 posted on 06/18/2005 10:08:05 AM PDT by varina davis

To: varina davis

Thanks, I wondered.

The Mansurs in Germany live in an exclusive areas, are Muslim and regarded as the most dangerous islamofascists in German by one account.

You don't read much about them in Aruba, I even wondered if they had left and if they sort of took over as the public face when the Casa Nostra guys were expelled. But while expelled, they continued to return "because of a mistake".

1,049 posted on 06/18/2005 10:10:18 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/

"Take a look at these two images, one identified as suspect Croes. Could these be the same individual? The ears seem very similar - but I am not sure. If so, it could have tremendous ramifications for this case."

1,050 posted on 06/18/2005 10:12:48 AM PDT by maggief

Another comparison, (yes, from posters at SM that know the suspect he has gained a lot of weight.)

1,051 posted on 06/18/2005 10:16:34 AM PDT by maggief

To: maggiefluffs

Scared Monkeys has the best info.

The two pics at the bottom appear to be the same person. But the small one on top, I don't know.

1,052 posted on 06/18/2005 10:20:51 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)

"what sensationalist missing person story Fox ...will drift to next"-----

Greta Van Susteren will "go missing", but there will be no one to cover it except Geraldo, who will not be interested.

1,053 posted on 06/18/2005 10:21:19 AM PDT by willyboyishere

Re your post:
One of the SM members found that what is assumed to be an older man (Marten) that posted the following message on one of the Joran friends Tickle site

My modelling baby Stephanie .... all gorgeous "boobs and ass" ... When she eventually grows-up, she will be an important export commodity for Aruba. Most likely destination? Thailand of course. A certain well-known Dutchman has shown serious interest. Marten a Dutchman living life to the full in Thailand.

Someone needs to check out this guy "Marten Van den Berg (Male, 96)"
http://connect.tickle.com/profile/index.html?id=KEd8uTiEsHdWv4S.

I created a phoney name and password to get in this site, and once you join you can click to see all his friends.. they are all YOUNG GIRLS..he then posts little stories he writes to them..such as:
Marten's story for Angie:
It is 07:00 in the morning here in Thailand and the Lord Buddha has blessed my day by letting me read about a certain gorgeous woman from the other side of the world coming into my circle of friends in Tickle ..... Can't go wrong, I am flying instead of driving into town to face the pressures of being a popular creature here in Chiang Mai and advice young people on matters of the heart .... Angie ... thank you !!! Marten a modest but sharp Dutchman living LIFE TO THE FULL in Thailand
and:
Marten's story for Zilha:
Zilha, just let me know when you have reached the age of consent..... I think you look absolute amazing and that you will be, in the very near future, the most gorgeous female Aruba has ever produced.... I want to be able to have a much closer look at you than I can do now, being some 10.000 Miles away. I will be sitting on the front row when you are crowned Miss Aruba!!! Marten a Dutchman based in Thailand and Editor of: http://www.MeetingThaiPeople.com
and:
Marten's story for Star:
We are so happy to have been added to STAR's circle. I do not know who is happier right now... the two young females I share my house [and other things ] with.. or me. We will celebrate your entry tonight in a way you will approve of, we will make love to each other with YOU [in spirit], being present as well. Although the combined ages of my two friends, only just surpass yours and mine is slightly above the average age of your lovers [wink-wink] I think that a 4-some would bring ultimate pleasures to all of us.
and:

Marten's story for Nailah:
Of course we all know that Nailah is a young girl and very far away from being 70...... I just wonder if she has looked at my profile page.... because the only thing I, my self, lied about .... - yes you guessed it absolutely right - .... is my own age! ... I live in Thailand and have very valid reasons not to mention my real age, it is pretty useless to explain to foreign outsiders why I did lie, but for a lovely young Arubian girl to do so, is absolutely incomprehensable to me ..... I hope she will explain the reason, and I then promise to do the same, be it in a private message to her..... Marten ..... a Dutchman living in Thailand who is greatful that Nailah added her name to my circle of friends....

It goes on and on... any takes on this guy??

1,054 posted on 06/18/2005 10:25:07 AM PDT by Snykerz

It could be that these latest people arrested are just the bigger drug dealers and they may have never seen Natalee.

Croes was in C&C the night Natalee disappeared.

1,055 posted on 06/18/2005 10:26:17 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

To: Rippersnapper; cajungirl

he is the editor of El Diario and this piece cajungirl posted, fingered that paper as the mouthpiece of the gov't. NO WONDER the guy had NOTHING To say.

1,056 posted on 06/18/2005 10:28:19 AM PDT by xsmommy

To: cajungirl; All

Poster from Riehl World View:

"The Vigilante news paper from Curacao Reports that the Croes guy might have been involved in breaking and entering on of the fishersman's huts, where appearently a fisherman reported that ropes, ankers, and tape have been stolen.

Could it be that the poor kid got killed after all and sunk to the bottom of the ocean somewhere?

I hope that this is a wrong assumption and that she is alive somewhere on the island"

1,057 posted on 06/18/2005 10:28:34 AM PDT by maggief

OT: One of the jurrors on the Jackson case showed up at the "thank you" party last night at a casino near Neverland.

Such a surprise.

1,058 posted on 06/18/2005 10:29:22 AM PDT by Howlin

1,059 posted on 06/18/2005 10:29:51 AM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)

To: maggiefluffs

Tattoo charter boat for sale - Sale Price: 875,000 USD (Price is Firm)

Thanks maggiefluffs, I saw that something was for sale yesterday on SM, but could not find what was up for sale. I wonder if LE has searched this boat for any evidence, perhaps the FBI should buy it.

1,060 posted on 06/18/2005 10:30:01 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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