Which of these is a greater danger? (GUNS vs. Pools)

Arizona Daily Star ^ | June 12, 2005 | Eric Swedlund

[SandRat]

In Arizona

* Accidental deaths in Arizona for children, 2000-2003

* Drowning: 140

* Gunshot wound: 15

Source: Arizona Child Fatality Review Program

[Hodar]

So, let's outlaw and control the 'Pool' industry. Perhaps federal registration? We can build huge fences around all lakes, streams and rivers.

Or, we have expect parents to watch their kids and not expect the TV to be a babysitter.

[SandRat]

So what next? Are they going to ban swimming pools in the backyard? Based on the left's gun grab logic of "it's only for child safety" they would.

[johnny7]

Gay sex.

[Nathan Zachary]

We know what the Liberal knee jerk solution to all this is don't we? Ban everything, swadle everyone in a protectiv layer of foam, keep them under obsevation 24 hours a day in a rond with padding on the floor and walls, funished with padded, rounded funature, and feed them 3 times a day with big brother aproved meals.
we all know that we are incapable of taking care of ourselves, we need a collective group of liberals to take our earnings and make all decisions for us.

[Nathan Zachary]

rond= room

[DTogo]

Most dangerous: parents who don't supervise their kids around pools or teach their kids gun safety (and to avoid guns altogether without adult supervision).

[Calpernia]

Don't move! I have a pool in my pocket and I'm not afraid to use it.

[Wilhelm Tell]

But the "intention" of swimming pools is benign, while the "intention" of guns is to kill people and no one needs a weapon, blah, blah, blah. To the left, all that matters is "good intentions" (no matter if the results are good or bad) and what the leftists, in their infinite wisdom, believe the common citizens "need." If the leftists' "good intentions" result in disaster for the peasants, it does not matter as long as the power of the state against the citizens is increased.

[Noumenon]

Cut to libs with fingers in ears going, "lalalalalalalalalalala..."

[FreedomPoster]

Don't know how they're defining children, but from CDC data for 2002, we have:

For "children" age 0-19:

Unintentional Injuries (selected line items)
Motor Vehicle Traffic: 7670
Drownings: 1158
Unintentional Firearms Deaths: 167

Homocides by Firearm: 1830

Over 1500 of the firearm homocide deaths are in the 15-19 age range, so you're starting to get into the gangbangers here, is my take.

Here's the source for that:
http://webapp.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus10.html

[nygoose]

Has any parent who ever lost a child to drowning in a pool ever sued a pool manufacturer for wrongful death or murder?

[poobear]

I couldn't even finish this lame article.

Have a pool. Had a baby. Never took eye off baby for a second. Taught baby to swim. Baby is now 10, still swimming. End of story.

[SandRat]

Yep like that obnoxious woman character on SNL that sort of looks like Tammy Fae Baker.

[backhoe]

I grew up on the water- literally, it was at the front door- and I can't recall a time when I could not swim... my parents had a theory of "making me safe around the water" rather than trying to scare me away from it.

Likewise, when I was big enough to hold a gun, I learned how to shoot- and how dangerous firearms could be. Again, their theory was to "Make me safe around weapons, rather than trying to make the weapons safe around me."

The whole area we live in is surrounded by water- not just the ocean, there are miles of salt marsh and swamps, rivers, creeks, and borrow pits-- and yet, a season never passes where someone falls in the water and drowns, and the first thing you hear is "old so-and-so was so scared of drowning he never learned to swim..."

[SandRat]

Go to the source article in the Star. It gave me a good laugh at something that a normally far left fishwrap would put something in that we could use to verbally abuse their ideas with.

[SandRat]

Right end.

No Pool, taught 3 children to swim in other pools, have firearms taught all 3 to respect and how to use properly. All three now healthy adults.

[SandRat]

Nathan Zachary in reply #5 said it best when he wrote-

We know what the Liberal knee jerk solution to all this is don't we? Ban everything, swadle everyone in a protectiv layer of foam, keep them under obsevation 24 hours a day in a rond with padding on the floor and walls, funished with padded, rounded funature, and feed them 3 times a day with big brother aproved meals.

We all know that we are incapable of taking care of ourselves, we need a collective group of liberals to take our earnings and make all decisions for us.We know what the Liberal knee jerk solution to all this is don't we? Ban everything, swadle everyone in a protectiv layer of foam, keep them under obsevation 24 hours a day in a rond with padding on the floor and walls, funished with padded, rounded funature, and feed them 3 times a day with big brother aproved meals.

We all know that we are incapable of taking care of ourselves, we need a collective group of liberals to take our earnings and make all decisions for us.

Most of use here know far better than the namby pamby libs, because we were raised to be strong and independant and to stand on our own two feet.

[Chewbacca]

Abortionists are the #1 killer of children in this country.

[Condor51]

Well the only solution would seem to be some "common sense pool control laws" be enacted ASAP - say about 22,000 of them. No, excuse me 44,000 since at least twice as many children are accidentally killed by pools than guns, it's only fair.

We can start by mandatory licensing of ALL pool owners and making them go through gubmint background checks. All pool owners will have to carry their "Pool Owner ID Card" with them at all times when near a pool. And said ID will have to presented when purchasing anything pool related, like say.. water wings. Naturally a database will have to be kept of all pool owners so any irresponsible multiple offenders, or probable offenders, can be found and jailed PQD.

And naturally anyone ever charged with child or spousal abuse, had a DUI, a ticket for reckless driving, sought counseling of any type, ever seen a shrink for any reason, especially depression - will be banned for life from owning a pool or anything pool related.

Furthermore, it's only logical that any licensed pool owner be limited to how many pool related items they may purchase at once. If we follow some gun laws, one a month is 'fair'. Otherwise they might be buying a floating lounge chair for an UNLICENCED person, we can't have that! NO STRAW POOL PURCHASES - period.

But this presents a conundrum - why or how can we 'only' stop at pools?. These dangerous people can as easily do their mischief with a bath tub or a bucket. Those will have to be confiscated too - for public safety.

And please, don't even mention diving boards or slides. Those 'assault weapons of mass death' will be burned in the public square at noon next Saturday. After all, it's for the children.