Natalee's body found... (false report)

[kcvl]

Per Fox News...

[Neenah]

FOX is saying that they found blood in the car of one of the three men. At this time there is NO CONCLUSION if there was a match.

[durasell]

You beat me to it...

[Chode]

everybody makes mistakes, the bright ones ADMIT when they are WRONG and LEARN from their mistakes... too late for her

i've done stooopid things tooo, and regretted them... but i NEVER fooled myself into believing that I wasn't to blame for what happened.

to say she is responsible for her own actions doesn't make her murder any less wrong or tragic because it could of been avoided... we ALL pray for her soul

[Darkwolf377]

Interesting point. The unborn are killed for the same reason some find them so easy to defend--they are "abstract" human beings in the minds of some, both pro- and anti-life. Generic People/tissue, if you will.

But once we're dealing with an individual, one can examine their specific circumstances--did this person do something that led to their being in trouble, for example, whereas an unborn child, in 100% of the cases, is completely innocent.

The problem is, the same people who regularly castigate the media for being corrupt, without facts, etc, get ALL their information about these individual cases from that same media, and feel perfectly free to judge people based on what they themselves consider unreliable sources.

[El Gran Salseron]

You're thinking as an adult.

Try to think as a 17-year-old.

[the Deejay]

Sounds like she planned to party all night.

Yep.

I heard about her bags being packed, ready to go home on the first report she was missing.

First person that'd left their room like that, Chandra Levy came to mind.

[txrangerette]

From what I have read, they won't be held liable for not protecting the graduates because everyone knew they were not going in order to protect them. They were going to act as little helpers in case any of the kids wanted or asked for their help with anything.

[prisoner6]

Triple damn but not unexpected...

prisoner6

[El Gran Salseron]

"The problem is, the same people who regularly castigate the media for being corrupt, without facts, etc, get ALL their information about these individual cases from that same media, and feel perfectly free to judge people based on what they themselves consider unreliable sources."

Worth repeating!

[river rat]

Sad isn't it....

I've also noticed that far too many of the young girls today, dress and act like whores trolling for Johns...

I've often wondered why Mother Nature gave such beauty to such obvious Air Heads.....

Semper Fi

[daybreakcoming]

You can't convince these smug perfect parents who have perfectly raised perfect kids that other kids should ever screw up enough to cost them their lives. If they do, it's their fault, it's the parents' fault, the chaperones....but don't dare mention that a killer could be to blame. The girl made a mistake - more than one mistake maybe. A date-rape drug could have compounded it. If we were all killed due to making a mistake - there would only be those perfect ones mentioned above posting here.

[raybbr]

And common sense can save one's life.

Can you teach common sense?

[spectre]

If Natalee had brought this boy home to meet her parents, they most likely would have let her go out with him. He had all the right credentials.

Heck, I knew my own Hubby for only a few hours, before he called and we went out on a date in his car.. alone..I could have ended up dead, I guess.

sw

[TexKat]

One of the strangest parts of this story, IMO, is that none of her girlfriends or classmates have come forward to say anything to the media. Usually, there are a few kids who want to get on t.v. Evidently they've been asked to stay quiet while the investigation is going on and they're doing their part by staying silent. But I wouldn't necessarily believe some of her friends were in the restroom with her.

They interviewed about 3 of Natalee's friend girls that was on the trip last weekend. One of them sounded so clueless, that she started making me ill. I had to pause and contemplate whether or not I was that naive when I was their age. I don't think that I was. I would not have been so optimistic that my friend would be returning under the existing circumstances.

[reformedliberal]

The language of the islands is Dutch, but everyone speaks/reads *papiamento* (which I was once told means *babble*). It is a creole: Dutch/Portuguese/African, w/some French/Spanish words here and there. Sort of like pidgin in the Pacific. You can make a few words out if you speak/read any of the languages included. Even the supermarket labels for locally packaged food will be in papiamento and there are papismento papers.

I saw comments earlier about safety of NA islands/drugs, etc.Curacao is the roughest. You can see drug deals going down out of the trunks of the taxis in front of the hotels. Aruba is second, maybe because the casinos are a huge draw, and Bonaire is (or was) third. My experience is all about 5 years old, but the last time we were on Bonaire, the ambiance had changed for the worse. Even back in the late eighties, night dives would suddenly change location because a blacked out motor yacht was already on the mooring. The dive masters all knew these boats. My husband is a dive master and they respected him and we would usually hear the truth sometime after the dive, when no other tourists were around. We had been to this island many times over many years and even did some business there, so we were accepted. There have always been robberies, rapes and some murders and they are routinely covered up so as not to spook the tourists. A lot of the big money/non-chain hotels is drug money or some sort of laundering scheme. Probably the same is true of the casinos, including the high rollers.

The education and medicine on all the NA islands is First World. The people have often worked or been educated in Holland. Many of the men served in the Dutch military, including their version of special ops.

Something changed in the late nineties. Looking back with no way to verify my intimations, I think there was a lot of sanction busting of Iraq oil and the beginnings of an Islamist infiltration. Before anyone jumps on that, the main religions in the NA are Catholicism and Pentecostal Protestant Christianity. The Scientology ship, Freewind, stops there and everyone we knew was aware of Scientology and not impressed. Islamism is strong in Trinidad and Tobago, which aren't that far away.

We had just about decided to retire there in the late nineties. Then, we noticed things changing and we decided against it.

I can't imagine blaming the girl. She had *met* these guys over the course of a week. Her friends knew them. To an 18-year-old, that made then *friends*.

[Proud Conservative2]

Now the tourism board should recommend a ban on vacationing there until the murderers face real consequences!

[CindyDawg]

Yeah my mom preached to keep my drink ( a coke of course:') with me at all times and always made sure I had a QUARTER to call home if I needed her to come get me. She actually taped it up so I wouldn't spend it.

[raybbr]

Now the tourism board should recommend a ban on vacationing there until the murderers face real consequences!

That's right. Punish thousands of people for the actions of one or two!

[the Deejay]

Common sense in taught from the toddler stage.

Example:

"The power plug will bite you!"

[sofaman]

Exactly right...the last thing that she would have expected on a "paradise" island was a predator that would do something like this. If it indeed, is one of these 3 guys, they are well connected, well educated, cosmopolitan, etc. They just happen to be nut jobs...