Natalee's body found... (false report)

[kcvl]

Per Fox News...

[TheOtherOne]

The www.carlosncharliesaruba.com site is down, but here are some photos from web archives of their site.

[ashtanga]

If permissive Americans could break through the post-Freudian haze, they would see sex as essentially idiotic and destructive, save in the context of marriage. I do not say this out of a Victorian sense of morality, although this surely isn't a bad thing, but by sheer common sense. I am wandering far afield, I know, but this sort of barbarity must be addressed opaquely. It is too shocking.

[Seattle Conservative]

That's a very good point. When my girlfriends and I used to be out and about (before most of them got married), we rarely left each other, and, if we did, it was usually a guy we were dating that we happened to run into. We always told the others if we were leaving, with whom, and where we were going.

[MizSterious]

Fox just now reported DNA testing was done on some blood that was found. No other details.

But you're right about the chaperones! Why bother at all if they're not going to chaperone the kids?

[txrangerette]

They were misnamed as chaperones, so everyone says. Never were meant to do any of the things you suggest, apparently, but were there just to be helpful in case the graduates asked for help with anything.

[Txsleuth]

I haven't been watching all day---but this morning, I got the same impression as you...

Leave it to Geraldo to go down there, and start saying she might not even be dead...he is the conspiracty theory master...LOL

At least they got him out of Neverland, holding the hand of Michael Jackson!!!!

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

And if tox results show she was slipped something would getting in a car with 3 men still be "bad judgement?"

Of course, bad judgement comes into play, but she is not dead because of her bad judgement. She is dead because she was murdered by persons yet to be named.

My parents taught me many things growing up. I did not always listen. I am not absolving her from any bad judgement, but that is a far cry from saying she is to blame for what happened to her.

Damn, I wanted one of those kids out there who listen to every single words spoken by their parents, never test the limits, and never do anything stupid.

BTW, I taught all of my kids that drugs are bad. I do not do drugs and drink only socially, don't get drunk 'cause I hate the hangover. My middle son is (so far so good) battling a meth addiction. It is not because I neglected him. It is not because I wanted to be his buddy. It is not because of any example I set. It is not because I did not set limits. It is not because I looked the other way. In fact, his former drug "friends" know I will call the cops in a heartbeat. I have. (They all think I am crazy) But it happened. And I will bear none of the blame except maybe taking a while to realize I could not make him stop using. That had to come from him.

It is an extreme example, but I know more than I want about kids straying in spite of "doing everything right."

[river rat]

Sorry Cherry.....a 4.0 reflects ONLY that she got good grades..somehow...

I retired from the high tech world in Silicon Valley, and worked directly with some of the "brightest", "most highly educated" folks in the country...

Many of them didn't have enough sense to come in out of the rain.....
Many of them, made horrible messes of their lives...due to stupid choices,irrational behavior or simply the lack of common sense.

The "world" is a far more demanding and unforgiving place, than the classroom.... Unfortunately, most of today's classroom don't prepare our kids for the REAL WORLD..

Parents must do that....


Semper Fi

[demkicker]

One of the strangest parts of this story, IMO, is that none of her girlfriends or classmates have come forward to say anything to the media. Usually, there are a few kids who want to get on t.v. Evidently they've been asked to stay quiet while the investigation is going on and they're doing their part by staying silent. But I wouldn't necessarily believe some of her friends were in the restroom with her.

Based on the "good girl" reputation Natalee had, I definitely think that Dutch kid used a ruse to get her into the car. Plus, she'd been around him for a couple of days and probably felt like she knew him. He probably bragged about his dad being a magistrate on the island, etc.

[durasell]

Windmilling is something you teach a three or four year old. That's when lessons in self-defense and survival should start.

If there's even a question of leaving a bar drunk with a couple of strange boys as a teenager, then the lessons haven't sunk in.

[the Deejay]

why didn't she stick closely with her group of classmates?

Hubby & I were just discussing the same thing.

Apparently, she wanted to be w/that one boy and after the classmates & chaperones turned in for the night, she slipped out and met the boy and his mates.

Her passport, handbag, id, et al were in her room and her bags were packed to go home the next day. (Shades of Chandra Levy and her disappearance.)

[spectre]

Well, I guess that answers our questions, Miz. They really weren't chaperons after all. Incredible.

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[MizSterious]

Sometimes the kids with the highest grades have the least common sense. Adults, too.

[Hildy]

There's more compassion for the unborn than for the living on these boards.

[Txsleuth]

I am tending to lean the way you are--the chaperones are libel for those kids from the time they left Alabama until they return to their PARENTS in Alabama...

Even if she had disappeared after landing back in US..the chaperones should be responsible...

If they didn't want that kind of responsiblity, they should have not volunteered...

[demkicker]

Consider this

[Yaelle]

Fox just now reported DNA testing was done on some blood that was found.

This should just take a minute.

[MizSterious]

Chaperones--apparently they should call them what they were: useless.

[sarasota]

Thanks. That tells me what I need to pass along for now.