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Natalee's body found... (false report)

Posted on 06/11/2005 11:05:50 AM PDT by kcvl

Per Fox News...


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KEYWORDS: aruba; joranvandersloot; kalpoebrothers; natalee; nataleeholloway; pantiesphoto; threerichpunksdidit
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To: MizSterious; MikeinIraq; Dog Gone

Fox reporting human blood found in the car.

My guess brothers left the car to "be a pal." Blond boy, the one who thought it swell to post a photo of himself strangulating a kid with a belt, wasn't statisfied with kissy face and went beserk. Brothers helped him dispose the body.

If the brothers are more involved, they'll stick togehter on their stories against the other.


341 posted on 06/11/2005 1:15:27 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: rs79bm

she left her group and got in a car with three men she didn't know while in a foreign country... who should we blame???


342 posted on 06/11/2005 1:15:49 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: rs79bm
50 times in this thread people have implied others are blaming the victim. When the way I read it is they are trying to figure out how she (or our own kids) could avoid such a situation. As a parent of young girls I hope they continue to discuss the mistakes made.

The perp is to blame,(may he rot in hell) but there are lessons to be learned by this young girls mistakes too.

343 posted on 06/11/2005 1:16:10 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
believe Laci was Portuguese.

Yes indeed, she was.

344 posted on 06/11/2005 1:17:34 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: radiohead

And, of course, the crimes are denied and not reported by the university...so the parents and public don't know what really goes on. The convicts were--at that time, at least--sometimes not under any supervision! They just trusted them, since these were the "good behaviour" criminals.


345 posted on 06/11/2005 1:17:40 PM PDT by Gondring (The can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold dead hands.)
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To: Chode

If she was murdered, blame the person who killed her.


346 posted on 06/11/2005 1:18:31 PM PDT by SoVaDPJ
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To: Shermy

Well, that sorta shoots down a "she was drunk and fell" defense.


347 posted on 06/11/2005 1:18:57 PM PDT by Gondring (The can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold dead hands.)
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To: Chode
she left her group and got in a car with three men she didn't know while in a foreign country... who should we blame???

Got to be her fault, she should have known death was just around the corner, just by getting in a CAR

Sheesssshhhhhhhh!

348 posted on 06/11/2005 1:19:12 PM PDT by Chuck54 (Real courage is when you know you're licked before you begin, but you begin anyway. - Harper Lee)
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To: kcvl

Damned waste. At least she can get a proper burial.


349 posted on 06/11/2005 1:20:07 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Remind Liberal Cowards Why America Freed Iraq: http://massgraves.info/)
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To: Shermy; the Deejay

That's the scenario I imagine happened, too. Right now I'm thinking the blond guy did it (the one whose name sounds like "urine"), and the brothers either found their conscience, or just want to be rid of the situation.


350 posted on 06/11/2005 1:20:52 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: MizSterious
and the brothers either found their conscience,.....

I don't really think so!

351 posted on 06/11/2005 1:22:03 PM PDT by Chuck54 (Real courage is when you know you're licked before you begin, but you begin anyway. - Harper Lee)
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To: kcvl

The only reason we even have heard of this case, is that we are all "enjoying" or are at least somewhat interested in this latest "dissapeared girl/woman" case. I guess the cable channels have decided that a constant state of "Bulletin Edge" is the best new strategy that sells air time, and gets ratings. So, they have staffs that scour the local news feeds, looking for just the right kidnap, dissapearences, or murder cases to pounce upon. Add to that the biggies like Michael Jackson, Robert Blake, OJ, etc. and you have 24 hours of coverage, 7 days a week, 365 days a year.


353 posted on 06/11/2005 1:22:31 PM PDT by Richard Axtell (There's gonna be hell to pay, so get out yer checkbooks!)
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To: SandRat

The rumors are building about Date-Rape drugs? I'm in an out with FOX and the TV.

Someone said something about "Roofies" in context with such drugs . . . where have I heard that before?


354 posted on 06/11/2005 1:22:51 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Honor - Dignity - Courage - Loyalty)
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To: I still care

You are absolutely right. We are raising kids who think life is about partying and bar hopping.


355 posted on 06/11/2005 1:22:56 PM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: SandRat

<< Same rules in effect here too. >>

Forgot to mention that, until the day he died, if I was at my Dad's house and going out he expected to be told [Well, asked permission, actually] where and WITH WHOM and what time back. And wanted whoever picked me up to come to the door and knock and come inside and meet and/or greet him.

Reckoned I wasn't an officer in HIS Air Force nor Commander of his aircraft. [Home]

And, as I mentioned, it -- and all the rest of his tough love -- worked for me.


356 posted on 06/11/2005 1:23:19 PM PDT by Brian Allen (I fly and need therefore envy no Earth Person! -- Per Ardua ad Astra!)
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To: Chuck54

Chuck54, here are the facts, and they apply anywhere, but perhaps especially in a foreign country. Women should not be getting into cars with strangers, even one stranger, but especially THREE strangers. No one is saying it's "her fault", yet had she exhibited a modicum of common sense, she might yet be alive today. This is why people are saying these things: they hope upon hope that people take these lessons to heart, and maybe some lives will be saved in the process.

Slamming people who say these things does not help. Rather, it gives the appearance of suggesting that no one has any responsibility whatever for their own safety. That would be a horrid mistake. Even 17- or 18-year old graduates should take responsibility for their personal safety. Period.


357 posted on 06/11/2005 1:25:07 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: MizSterious; Gondring; the Deejay
That's the scenario I imagine happened, too. Right now I'm thinking the blond guy did it (the one whose name sounds like "urine"), and the brothers either found their conscience, or just want to be rid of the situation.

I suspect they panicked, or they wanted to help their pal and got straightened out later. I noticed their lawyer was the first to speak out and mention there was some kissing or the like going on - then stopped the story there. LE will smoke out the story.

G- the fell down story was bizarre. I guess they had to figure a "reason" why they would have seen a security guard (black, of course) approach the girl. The story as they tell it let the imagination start with the girl in the guard's arms.

One of the stories was the guards were "fired the day before," implying some ominous reason that would lead them to killing a tourist the next day. Insane.

359 posted on 06/11/2005 1:27:27 PM PDT by Shermy
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Your right, and their name,"something bad happening." they probably have done this before without the murder. Predatory packs cruising the bars for intoxicated female victims.I am not buying into this accident theory. If the two brothers were present when Joran(F-face) started attacking this girl why did they not stop him? Why, they are all in this murder together. What do you think Johnny7? NSNR


360 posted on 06/11/2005 1:27:31 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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