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Did Kerry really release Navy records? - (John O'Neill issues challenge; Kerry unresponsive)
CHICAGO SUN-TIMES ^ | JUNE 9, 2005 | THOMAS LIPSCOMB

Posted on 06/09/2005 8:36:30 AM PDT by CHARLITE

A front page story in the Boston Globe claimed that: "Senator John F. Kerry, ending at least two years of refusal, has waived privacy restrictions and authorized the release of his full military and medical records." In another Globe story Kerry had promised "The truth in its entirety will come out." But did it?

Kerry's election hopes faltered last summer and fall as accusations of fraudulent and incomplete military records were aired. The fact that Kerry repeatedly refused to sign a single-page military form called the Standard Form 180, that would have released all his military records to the public, was taken as proof he had something to hide.

Swift Boat Veterans for Truth head John O'Neill, who raised many of the charges against Kerry during the campaign, was challenged by Kerry on "Meet the Press" in January. Kerry promised he would sign his Standard Form 180, but he wanted former Swift Boat officer O'Neill to sign as well.

All depends on how it's filled out

O'Neill did sign it and provided copies to the Chicago Sun-Times. According to O'Neill, "The Standard Form 180 could release 'the full military and medical records.' Or it could release just a few. It all depends on how it is filled out and where it was sent."

"There is nothing magic about signing a SF 180," said former Naval Judge Advocate General Mark Sullivan. "It is sort of like your checkbook. You can fill out a check for one dollar or a million. It is the same check form."

"And the Globe story says Kerry sent it to the Navy Personnel Command, which is only a limited storage location. So it is not surprising that the Globe then notes that what they received was largely 'duplication' of records previously released. The Navy Personnel Command primarily stores a subset of service records rather than a person's full military records. There is no doubt there are a lot of after-action records missing from what Kerry has released," said Sullivan.

Kerry's not talking

Washington Post reporter Michael Dobbs has already found a discrepancy confirmed by the Department of the Navy of "at least a hundred pages" missing from those already disclosed by Kerry.

"If you take a look at my SF 180," O'Neill said, "you will see I have authorized the total release of all my records to anyone requesting to see them. But without seeing how Kerry's SF 180 was filled out, everyone is only guessing about what was released."

So how an SF 180 is filled out is as important as signing it. But no one in the press has yet claimed to have seen a copy of Kerry's SF-180. When asked if she had a copy of Kerry's SF 180, the Globe's Managing Editor Mary Jane Wilkinson said, "I haven't seen it, and I don't know if anyone here has."

Kerry's Senate offices could not provide a copy of the Kerry SF 180 and would not answer inquiries. Is it possible that Kerry filled it out wrong or sent it to the wrong place?

O'Neill made Kerry an offer. "I'll be happy to bring one to Kerry's office and help him fill it out. And then we can take mine and his and deliver them to the right place together to make sure, as Kerry puts it, 'the truth in its entirety will come out.' "

Now that the Boston Globe has in its possession what it claims are Kerry's "full military and medical records," is the Globe ready to make these records available to the public? Wilkinson replied, "It is my understanding that Kerry will release these papers to anyone else now that he has signed the Form 180. The Boston Globe is not going to make available the papers we have received."

Thomas H. Lipscomb is a senior fellow at the Annenberg Center for the Digital Future at USC.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 180; 2004; challenge; contents; form180; johnkerry; johnoneill; kerry; military; militaryrecord; records; releaseform; thomaslipscomb; traitor; usnavy
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To: Just Kimberly
ottom Line: Kerry LOST in 2004. Kerry will NOT win in 2008. Mr Kerry, let it go. Retire. Buy a boat and go sail away somewhere.

Maybe a sentimental Christmas trip to Cambodia.

81 posted on 06/09/2005 4:08:45 PM PDT by afnamvet (31st Fighter Wing Tuy Hoa AB RVN 68-69 "Return with Honor")
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To: afnamvet
"Maybe a sentimental Christmas trip to Cambodia."

Very good one, afnamvet! I love it! Once he and Tootsie have cruised into Cambodia, I suggest that they retire in Darfur, Sudan, for a big dose of REALITY.

Char

82 posted on 06/09/2005 4:44:13 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: Calpernia; Jim Robinson

I couldn't be more sad, reading this. Old, Old friends at PTSD 101. gone.



http://vietnamdiary.bizland.com/PTSD.chtml


83 posted on 06/09/2005 6:35:22 PM PDT by JLO
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To: Republicus2001
'I would like to see a poll of the American people asking who was the worst President of all-time... I agree Carter was the worst in my lifetime'.


Wait til he kicks the bucket and the MSM and DNC try to make the funeral equal to Reagan's.

Line the streets as the hearse passes? I might have to have a root canal that day. I WOULD watch our President's eulogy on CSPAN, because he is the Man.
84 posted on 06/09/2005 7:34:10 PM PDT by bitt ("There are troubling signs Bush doesn't care about winning a third term." (JH2))
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To: Zacs Mom

your pic is wayyyyyyyyyyy too nice to sKerry. please paste his head on a crabby, stoopid, hen-pecked, flubby, man-tanned, turkey-necked, big-butt, yellow-bracelet-wearin', fake guitar strummin', fall off his $6000. biking, lying SOB traitor.

:)


85 posted on 06/09/2005 7:39:46 PM PDT by bitt ("There are troubling signs Bush doesn't care about winning a third term." (JH2))
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To: SueRae
"I love O'Neill"

I'm with you -- and I also love the fact that 30 years after the smug, liberal Kerry lied on national TV during a debate with O'Neill, O'Neill bided his time and dealt Kerry a fatal blow with the Swift Boat ads. Bravo.

86 posted on 06/09/2005 9:46:12 PM PDT by tom h
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To: CHARLITE

87 posted on 06/10/2005 12:57:25 AM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Calpernia
Dang. I don't have that! I have this.



and This!


88 posted on 06/10/2005 4:52:11 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Caution. Contents under pressure.)
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To: CHARLITE

AHHH!

That is just wrong.


89 posted on 06/10/2005 5:33:21 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

90 posted on 06/10/2005 6:11:24 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: CHARLITE

Thanks for the ping!


91 posted on 06/10/2005 9:33:12 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: CHARLITE
Bullshit.
92 posted on 06/13/2005 3:02:27 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: SueRae
John O'Neill is John Kerry's worst nightmare. O'Neill is like a pitbull that has sunk its teeth into his crotch. It hurts like the "dickens" and when he tries to pull it off it hurts more. Yep, you gotta love O'Neill. The Viet Cong couldn't defeat him and a phony military hero isn't going to either -- even if Kerry is a billion dollar gigolo.
93 posted on 10/05/2005 3:00:54 PM PDT by daviscupper
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