Posted on 06/08/2005 12:44:31 PM PDT by andyk
A group of American Muslims produced a video that shows its members on a city street corner declaring Islam's dominance over America as they tred on a U.S. flag and then rip it apart.
In the video, released by the New York-based Islamic Thinkers Society, one of the Muslims is shown placing a sign on the flag that says, "Oh Muslims! Do you know your enemy? Isn't it obvious?"
Author and researcher Robert Spencer, who posted the video on his weblog Jihad Watch, commented that Muslim lobby groups such as the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations have helped foster an environment that discourages criticism of such actions.
"... [I]f we even ask how many Muslims in America think this way, CAIR will bellow about discrimination and Islamophobia," Spencer writes. "So attention is diverted from activities such as what is shown in this video, and they can continue unheeded."
The Islamic Thinkers Society is an off-shoot of Al-Muhajiroun, a British jihadist group that publicly raised funds for Hamas and has been suspected of facilitating transportation of British Muslims to fight U.S. troops overseas.
Al-Muhajiroun spiritual leader Sheik Omar Bakri Muhammad has called on the British Muslim community to join Hamas.
Under pressure from UK authorities, Al-Muhajiroun claimed it disbanded in October, but security sources say leaders still are active in London and the U.S.
As WorldNetDaily reported, Al-Muhajiroun openly maintains a branch in Queens that claims to be involved in "only peaceful activities." The group holds closed-door meetings and study sessions at a mosque in Jackson Heights, Queens, led by an older cleric identified as Sheikh Choudray.
The Queens branch youth leader, Abu Yousuf, a U.S. citizen who says he attended a "camp" in Sudan and takes computer courses at the City University of New York, speaks at university events throughout New York City usually sponsored by the Muslim Student Association.
At one Al-Muhajiroun event at Queensborough Community College sponsored by the MSA and attended by WND, a Muhajiroun speaker working with Yousuf said, "We reject the U.N., reject America, reject all law and order. Don't lobby Congress or protest because we don't recognize Congress! The only relationship you should have with America is to topple it!"
The speaker continued, "The so-called terrorists are the only people who truly fear Allah. ... They are the only worthy causes, and the mighty superpower only fears them."
In a private interview with WND, a Queens based Al-Muhajiroun leader said he would be "absolutely honored" to give up his life in a "martyr operation" against American civilians. The leader warned that "a jihad is coming to America because of the moves of the Bush administration."
Last year, Al-Muhajiroun planned a convention in London titled, "The Choice is in Your Hands: Either You're with the Muslims or with the Infidels," to mark the third anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
In 2003, the group had planned a similar anniversary event called "The Magnificent 19 [Suicide Attackers]," but canceled it at the last minute.
Those pictures of the islamofacist moron getting a flag-burn ouchie are right up there with the Iwo Jima flag raising, Neil Armstrong on the Moon and my Heather Thomas pin-up as my favorite photos of all time. Nice post!
Our Government officials will ignore this problem until we are literally fighting in the streets. Is that what they want? FINE!
Think I'll find some korans and iraqi flags to burn. Really.
The only relationship you should have with America is to topple it!"<<<
Oh really you effing rag head? Thats my new realtionship with muSLIMES.
Its like watching a slow-motion train wreck.
We must face up to the larger reality: that for years WE HAVE BEEN IMPORTING THOSE WHO HATE US - TO EITHER BREED CHILDREN HERE TO HATE US OR TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM TO LEARN HOW TO BOTH BLEND IN WITH US AND HOW TO TRY TO DESTROY US.
This one is from "Bob from Accounting" (satire)
Arlington, VA A town hall-style meeting, meant to open dialogue between al-Qaida operatives and local Washington area leaders turned into a complete disaster Wednesday after several of the radical Muslims, who were flown to the U.S specifically for the debate, began shooting participants and setting off bombs when their poor English skills prevented them from getting their point across.
"It seemed like a great idea at the time," mediator Ted Koppel said afterwards from the Fairfax Medical Center where he was being treated for shrapnel wounds. "We thought, why not see if we could find some common ground with those people who seem to hate us most."
According to witnesses, there didn't seem to be much common ground from the onset, as the confused Arabs --who have spent the last 18 months holed up in a trench outside the Tora Bora mountains on the Pakistani/Afghanistan border --began screaming and waving large rifles and threatening to explode the suicide belts wrapped around their waists.
"I was really really scared," said Arlington resident Pam Sprague who had just asked the the panel if they could each elaborate on steps they were taking to bring about peaceful solution to their longtime hatred towards each other.
"They didn't even answer my question. They shot the guy holding the microphone. Then they started screaming 'Allahu Akbar' over and over and tossing grenades. They were obviously very frightened and angry."
The gunmen finally calmed down during a trust-building exercise when host Ted Koppel instructed Arlington Councilwoman Anne Soffe to let herself fall blindly backwards and into the arms of the al-Qaida panelist, who was sure to catch her. He didn't.
While the town hall meeting was considered to be total disaster by most standards, both sides agreed they would return to the table sometime in the not-too-distant future.
"The channels of communication are now open," Soffe said. "I have every confidence that should I fall blindly backwards again, one of those men will not try to shoot me."
Queens, NY...Jackson Heights specifically...37th Avenue.
I didn't dismiss them as crazy American converts. Actually, they are quite dangerous. The people burning the flag in this video look like the A.N.S.W.E.R, IAC, Socialist Group. They infiltrate everything to create their agenda. They are enraged about Condi Rice naming The Free Muslims Coalition to the U.S. Delegation to combate Terrorism.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1415391/posts
Yeah? Sorry, I thought it was Brooklyn. My mistake.
re your post # 48---AMEN!
It is truly frightening that so many Americans are so lax about standing up for our great country. Even when you ask people to use a toll free number to let their Senators know we need judges who will enforce the law vs make the law...they're not willing to make the effort.
'..the flag burning and threatening speech is adequate proof of more dangerous intent..'
Interesting. On another FR thread about Iowa Sen. King seeking to pass amendment against flag burning...many freepers who posted on thread believed this was not a good thing and flag burning was part of freedom of speech. one even suggested, if this passed, he/she would burn a flag. hmmm, if this is how freepers feel, what can be expected from others?
Hahahaha...
Literally the SECOND these people try anything, all the PC bullcrap gets thrown out the window.
'Profiling' will be the least of their worries, as an armed citizenry would be PROUD to take out more than a few of troublemakes who seem so comfortable these days protected by the PC Brigade.
Once that first bomb goes off in a hospital, or in a park, or at a mall... its open season.
Very interesting. Thanks. We do also breed our own self hating Americans. Have you any links concerning ANSWER's recruitment of American Muslim converts?
Riot smarter not harder.
Take the hindu's for example.
I think I have something real good. I'm cooking dinner now. If I don't find it in the initial search, I will post it back later.
It was during the ICE raiding of the SAAR Foundation. They link to IAC (Ramsey Clark's group) was uncovered. Operation....Green something???
Let me look.
Best laugh of the day!
Operation Greenquest
http://www.september11terrorlitigation.com/pdf/O'Neill_Al_Baraka_Second_Amended_Complaint.pdf
http://www.sept11terrorlitigation.com/pdf/Continental_Casualty_Amend_Complaint_.pdf
FTR#s 343, 352, 354, 356, 357, 382: Ahmed Hubera principal figure in Al Taqwas operations and an important personage within the European far right as wellhas networked with an AfricanAmerican Muslim extremist cleric who was principally featured at a January/2003 anti-war rally in Washington, D.C.
International ANSWERthe parent organization behind several significant anti-war demonstrations is an important element of discussion. (This should in no way be misunderstood as impugning the motives of the vast majority of people opposing the war and/or in attendance at these rallies.) One of its most important elements is a Stalinist off-shoot of the Communist Party USAthe WWP. The head of the parent organization of ANSWERthe International Action Centeris former Attorney General Ramsey Clark. Clarks dubious political past is analyzed at considerable length.
There are heaps of video clips and don't forget to read "About us" section and "Our Objective" section:
.. Our objective is to resume the Islamic way of life to which will fulfill the purpose of the aim. Our objective is to bring back the apparatus that was destroyed in 1924 i.e. Khilafah.
continuing ..
.. Having given these few evidences, is just to show the importance of having an Islamic State where it will serve as the mechanism to protect & nurture the Muslim Ummah with the correct understanding as well as the correct practicality of Tawheed. This all goes towards purifying Tawheed as well as fulfilling the aim of every Muslim which is to do ibadat to Allah s.w.t. This is what we, as part of Islamic Thinkers Society strive for. To create the ideal Islamic society, where the furqan(criterion) for the individuals as well as the rulers will be the Qur'an & Sunnah and the Qur'an & Sunnah only. As always, our struggle is intellectual & political. To us, this is a matter of life & death. A matter of jannah & jahannam. It requires seriousness, dedication, & sabr. ..
Looks like the Al Muhajiroun that has been banned in the U.K. found a new home in Queens, N.Y. How ironic.
Islamic Thinkers Society
Jackson Heights,
Woodside, NY 11377, USA
here is another link for your info http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/584
this group needs to be banned and the members thrown in jail.
I can't take it anymore!!! We're going to have to fight terrorists on American soil at some point. It's the only way to break up their cells here.
I don't mean to suggest that flag burning, by itself, is cause for internment. However, within the context of the current situation, the people involved, and the threatening speech, the totality of evidence may be sufficient to prove intent of more dangerous actions that merit internment.
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