Posted on 06/08/2005 8:44:03 AM PDT by Rakkasan1
Lou Nanne still has Dino Ciccarelli's back.
The former Minnesota North Stars general manager gave Ciccarelli his big break in 1979 despite skepticism that the undrafted teenager with the sandpaper attitude and poster-boy name was too small and too fragile to survive the NHL.
A quarter century later, Nanne is raising Cain with the Hockey Hall of Fame, which decides today whether Ciccarelli's 608 goals, 1,200 points and uncanny tolerance for abuse are worthy of induction.
"It's ridiculous he's not in there," said Nanne. "There's no doubt his numbers are there. There are guys in there who are no comparison."
Nanne, who served on the Hall of Fame selection committee in the early 1990s, made his case in writing to the 18-man board that will announce the Class of 2005 this afternoon in Toronto.
This is Ciccarelli's third year of eligibility. He ranks 13th all-time in goals, fourth among right wings, and he is the only retired 600-goal scorer not enshrined. Moreover, 32 forwards who scored fewer goals than Ciccarelli are in the Hall.
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DINO!!! Yeah. For all the cheap shots and golaie sticks he took in front of the net he deserves it.
golaie = goalie
Speaking of time, didn't Dino enjoy the pleasures of an underage girl in the back of a limo?
Did he serve any time for that stunt?
More importantly, is professional hockey returning anytime soon?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/103217p-93406c.html
"In 1990, a D.C. Superior Court grand jury declined to file charges against three Washington Capitals hockey players - Neil Sheehy, Dino Ciccarelli and Geoff Courtnall - who had been accused of sexually assaulting a 17-year-old girl in a limousine. The girl had accused the three, and player Scott Stevens, of attacking her during an end-of-the-year team party in a Georgetown alley. Sources close to the investigation said law enforcement officers were certain there had been sexual activity in the limousine, but the grand jury said it did not believe it occurred against the girl's will. "
he dropped trough ,but I don't recall who it was in front of.
He was getting his newspaper without pants on
Ah, that brings back the good old days. Sitting in the second balcony at the old Chicago Stadium, after walking up 105 stairs and having the beer vendor right at the top, with a beer for me and pops.
I think Dino was once arrested for going out on his balcony with a sweater on -- and nothing else.
In the 1987-88 season, Ciccareli was arrested and charged with assault following an on-ice incident with Toronto Maple Leafs rookie defenceman Luke Richardson in which Ciccarelli objected to what he thought was an illegal bodycheck from behind by clubbing the then 21-year-old Richardson over the head with his stick--twice. Ciccarelli served one day in jail for that. A week later, Ciccarelli went out to his front step to get the newspaper and forgot his pants. Naked below the waist, Ciccarelli was seen by his 7-year-old female next-door neighbour, whose mother called the police immediately. Ciccarelli was charged with indecent exposure and pled guilty, serving 50 hours of community service.
No, he didn't get any time for that. I don't think he got any time for standing in front of his bay window, in just a sweatshirt, either. Those were the days. Go, CAPS!
It's kind of ironic that Dino Ciccarelli and Scott Stevens were both involved in that incident. Ciccarelli deserves to be elected to the Hall of Fame simply because of the physical beating Stevens laid on him throughout the 1995 Stanley Cup finals.
Outside of Champions bar on a Georgetown side street.
I don't know if he's Hall of Fame material or not(I know Scotty couldn't stand him). His one big knock is no titles, and he took some dumb penalties that helped cost us our shot at the cup. On the same note, he helped turn the Red Wings around from their 89-90(missed playoffs) and 90-91(third place in division) rebuilding years. Dino always gave 100%, and was always a force on the power play. He'll always be well regarded in Detroit, much like he was in Minnesota.
If I had to pick two players - I'd pick Rick Tocchet and Mike Vernon. If three - Tocchet, Vernon, and either Sergei Makarov(partially based on his USSR stats) or Dino. Tocchet was a scorer, but also an enforcer. Makarov was the top right winger with the Red Army before defecting. He was a 32 year old "rookie" with Calgary, which hurts his chances. He couldn't play into his 40's like Fetisov or Larionov. As for Mike Vernon, he was a top goalie with the Flames for years(wins cup in 89) playing in Fuhr's shadow in Alberta. With the Red Wings, he ended the 42 year Stanley Cup drought.
On the first ballot list, I think Mike Vernon has a good shot, largely due to his 89 and 97 Cup performances. Beezer was a very good goalie, but couldn't win the cup. Ray Ferraro, Pat Verbeek, Rick Tocchet, Gary Suter, and Steve Duchesne were the best players of that group and merit consideration since they have done everything for their career, but they wern't superstars for most of it. Tocchet might have been if he wasn't injured as often as he was. Suter and Duchesne were very good defensemen, but not stars. Ferraro was oftentimes the best player on a bad team. Bob Probert is a sad case. He was possibly talented enough to make it if he didn't drink and snort coke all the time. He's the Steve Howe or Darryl Strawberry of hockey.
Of the rest
Glenn Anderson had the benefit of being on great teams(5 Edmonton and 1 Rangers Cup). He was an average player after he turned 30, but an elite player in Edmonton. How much was him, and how much was Gretzky or Messier? The same can be said of Bernie Nichols with LA(Gretzky again).
Bellows was stuck in Minnesota for most of his career. Another very good, but non superstar player. Same with Steve Larmer, Dave Taylor, Brian Propp, Brent Sutter(who was better than his stats), and Bobby Smith. That said, how different were most of them from Joe Mullen or Bernie Ferderko who were inducted? Andy Moog was a very good goalie for years as Grant Fuhr's backup, and with Boston as a starter. Dale Hunter is an interesting case. He was a good scorer, great enforcer and a very good all around player. I don't think he has a prayer of getting in though based on that infamous cheap shot on Pierre Turgeon.
Sergei Makarov is certainly a player to consider as well. If Vlachislav Fetisov is worthy of the HOF based largely on his Soviet Career, Makarov is another that should be considered since it's not the "NHL hall of fame".
BTW - Is Esa Tikkanen elgible yet? I'm surprised his name wasn't on the elgibility list.
Chicago Stadium. Remember it well, along with the Sutters, Doug Wilson, Steve Smith, the Sutters, Ed Belfour, Roenick, Savard, The Sutters, and Steve Larmer.
"In 1990, a D.C. Superior Court grand jury declined to file "charges against three Washington Capitals hockey players - Neil Sheehy, Dino Ciccarelli and Geoff Courtnall - who had been accused of sexually assaulting a 17-year-old girl in a limousine. The girl had accused the three, and player Scott Stevens, of attacking her during an end-of-the-year team party in a Georgetown alley. Sources close to the investigation said law enforcement officers were certain there had been sexual activity in the limousine, but the grand jury said it did not believe it occurred against the girl's will. "
I followed this case very closely and have no doubt the girl was raped by Dino and Courtnall. Another player originally told the cops he opened the limo door and saw the girl struggling to get free while being held down. A week later, he changed his story. Ditto with the limo driver, who originally told the cops the girl fled the limo in tears, with disheveled clothing. Then, he went to the grand jury and said she was happy and smiling when she left.
Dino is scum.
Professional hockey? What's that?
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