Posted on 06/08/2005 8:34:39 AM PDT by CHARLITE
MISSION UNACCOMPLISHED
So with the exception of seeing Sen. John Kerry's middling grades at Yale, what was achieved by his signing of the SF-180 document?
If it was about releasing his military record, that wasn't achieved.
If it was about clarifying his reserve activities upon his return from his short stint in Vietnam, that wasn't achieved.
If it was to perhaps further obscure the truth about his service and post-Vietnam activities, mission accomplished.
It is unclear exactly what was released by the Navy late Monday to the Boston Globe. On its face it appears that aside from the Yale transcript and some commendations, little new appeared.
"I don't know what everyone expected," says a former Kerry campaign staffer. "We said this was the complete file months ago. The Senator pointedly requested that the grades not be included in the documents released during the campaign."
"I don't know what everyone expected," says a former Kerry campaign staffer. "We said this was the complete file months ago. The Senator pointedly requested that the grades not be included in the documents released during the campaign."
And there lies the rub. At no point has Kerry requested a full, nonredacted release of his military record from the National Personnel Record Center, which has custody of Kerry's complete record.
According to Steve Jones, a principal of Lyon Research, and a respected researcher, who specializes in culling data at the National Archives, the Library of Congress, and various military and museum repositories across the country, Kerry's full file could contain a number of other documents not released on Monday, such as documents that verify his status in the Reserves up to 1978.
But redirecting media and the public away from his full file appears to have been Kerry's plan all along, because he submitted his SF-180 to the wrong entity.
"It doesn't make sense that he is going through the Navy," says Jones. "Applying through the Navy gives this scenario the appearance of a personnel shuffle. Kerry said he applied to the Navy and the Boston Globe said they received his record from the Navy and that makes no sense when the relevant records are at the National Personnel Record Center, a part of the National Archives. By going through the Navy Kerry makes it appear that he is using the Navy to screen his file; he added a layer of bureaucracy when all he needed to do was sign an authorization allowing a third party to look at his record at the NPRC."
What is the difference between the Navy and the NPRC?
The Navy, which created the documents to begin with, is legally obligated to protect the privacy of the veteran. If, as many conspiracy theorists have posited, negative material was expunged from Kerry's file, the Navy could most likely only include the final version of a document.
For example, if an individual were to have a received a less than honorable discharge, but then gained a full, honorable discharge some years later, only the honorable discharge order might appear in the Navy file, while both discharges might appear in the individual's file at the NPRC in St. Louis, Mo.
Jones, who has worked extensively at the NPRC and the National Archives, says that were Kerry to sign an SF-180 and authorize a third party full access to his NPRC records, more fodder would likely be found. "There is no way to know what is in his file unless an independent party looks at the file at the NPRC," says Jones.
But there is hope. The NRPC can open the file to the public ten years after a famous individual dies.
As to what could possibly be in the full files, the former Kerry staffer insists it's time that Republicans and anti-Kerryites got a life. "The man lost. He's now had to admit that he was [crappier] student than Bush and yet you keep hounding the man. Nothing will ever satisfy you people. I guess you're all going to go camp out back down in Mena for Hillary's 2008 run. Good luck with that."
Please, please, please reword the last sentence of your post.
You mean sKerry pulled a fast one? I'm shocked! Shocked I tells ya!
Anyone expecting that Kerry will come clean needs a reality check. The yellow-striped,lily-livered, VC-lovin', commie SOB can't reveal the depth of his treachery because he'd lose his job... not that he ever really does it anyway.
Kerry's discharge is in Sandy Berger's pants."
LOL, now that was Funny!
Kerry Treason Bump!!
As I pointed out yesterday, to a few people who should be looking into this so-called "release", these are the remaining relevant questions.
Is the public getting a copy of the Form 180 that Kerry says he submitted? Why does that matter?
It matters because the pertinent part of the form that deals with the release of documents is in item 2 of section 2 of the form. Knowing what Kerry wrote, in item 2 of section 2, would tell us a lot. The form is not designed so that the mere submission of the signed form creates an automatic release of everything in the file. What is "released" is whatever the requester asks to be released, and nothing more.
For instance, before he submitted the Form 180, his last public comment had been that his staff was looking into the issue. Why? Just sign the form? Think back to what I just said. One could guess that they were making a list of what had already been given to the public.
In order to affect a worthless release (containing no new public information) all that Kerry had to do was to type "see attached" in item 2 of section 2, and then attach a list of the only documents he wanted to let the public see (the ones he had already let us see). His "release" would have been phony, because the only thing the Boston Globe or anyone else would have gotten were Navy "copies" of the "copies" they already had from Kerry himself, and nothing else.
Someone with the personal/corporate means, money and access to a media venue needs to continue this pursuit.
The place to start is to get a copy of the Form 180 he claims he submitted.
Here's a job for Drudge.
Why is the Navy expending the resources to screen and release records from an individual that left the service early in 1970?
Any other Sailor has to go through NPRC! I wonder who is the high ranking DNC mole at the Department of the Navy. Sounds like laws are being broken here.
They mean by not posting Kerry's grades his psuedo intellectual pose might be threatened. I doubt it; it's still intact.
However, don't expect to see Kerry's full record. He isn't going to let his anti american pose or stance be broadcast for all to see.
;-)
Sure looks that way...but he can't even pull that one off, apparently!
E.V., thanks for the laugh re: Berger's pants, and G.S., thanks for the bigger laugh, pointing out the particular "phraseology" re: Berger's pants...ROFL!!
Thanks for the ping, Tonk.
Kerry is such a waste of space and air that I actually repect my dog more than this algae.
JF'nK is a lying traitor ~ Bump!
Be Ever Vigilant!
Bump/ping.
Swift Boat Veteran For Truth John O'Neill Comments on Kerry's 180 'Release'
6/7/05
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418592/posts
great post.
I'd love to see his records just to gloat and use one of my favorite phrases, "I told you so!"
(I get to use it so seldom)
But, really, it doesn't matter any more. Kerry will never, ever, never, ever be a candidate for president again, unless it's in an extremely weird parallel universe.
.....one inhabited only by himself and Mz. Heinz--z-z. Those two make one very weird couple, IMO.
Char :)
Give Hanoi John Effin Kerry an ordinary enema and the remains would fit in a standard issue matchbox. FACT.
Sign the SF-180 for REAL, John-Boy!
That is IF you have the "stones"......and I'm betting that ya don't.
"Kerry is such a waste of space and air that I actually repect my dog more than this algae."
I have far more respect for the life that clings to the inside of my septic tank than I do for this craven lickspittle.
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