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FBI questions Free Stater in New Hampshire

Posted on 06/06/2005 10:21:35 PM PDT by Dada Orwell

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To: Dada Orwell

"flying is not a right."

Yep, first it was driving. That used to be a right until some bright politician in Massachusetts decided it was profitable to make it illegal. Now as far as the goon squads are concerned, it's flying, taking a bus or train (since the goons are in charge of that now too) and just you wait, in the name of "security" walking without govt permission will be illegal too. Americans are sheep. They get the bloody rear end they deserve.


21 posted on 06/06/2005 11:16:56 PM PDT by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: Sparticus
Rossi doesn't have to win in the Supreme Court; he needs to turn a big spotlight on the "reasoning" of today's ruling - that nothing can be done about illegal votes, so nevermind about them.

That needed to be fanned white-hot after this morning - even raising federal civil-rights issues to really draw attention to it.

But no, it might be inconvenient for Rossi's professional-politician career apparently. And it's not like he was arguing the case himself; did he even show up in the courtroom the last two weeks? I never saw him in all the coverage I watched.

By just walking away, the anger you talk about is already starting to dissipate. Yeah, sure, we're pissed off, but nobody I talked to today even knew about the trial, much less that there was a ruling today.

22 posted on 06/06/2005 11:19:23 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Hank Rearden

It's over hank.
rejoice.
the feds win, won and will win for the forseeable future.

surprise surprise.


23 posted on 06/06/2005 11:24:04 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (Please don't squeeze the Koran. I gotta go to the bathroom.)
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To: agitator

you may be right.

but it's too late to revolt.
the lot is cast, and we were the ones sold for less than thirty pieces of silver.

started a long long time.. ago.


24 posted on 06/06/2005 11:26:13 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (Please don't squeeze the Koran. I gotta go to the bathroom.)
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To: Mongeaux

Poor Mongeaux is just a pawn in the game of life ?


25 posted on 06/06/2005 11:39:36 PM PDT by ikka
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To: Dada Orwell
He says the agents seemed to relax somewhat and left after coming to the conclusion that he is not a physical threat and also that he cannot be deterred from his act of civil disobedience. They did spend time lecturing him on national security issues and told him "flying is not a right."

Two points:

1. He is just going to engage in civil disobedience and will not be violent, therefore the Feds at the airport will only taser him once and probably not hit him with a baton.

2. The right to travel freely in the USA is a right, the specific mode of transportation is not mentioned.

Parting thought: did Kanning ask the FBI if they knew what a Bivens claim is?

26 posted on 06/06/2005 11:42:46 PM PDT by ikka
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To: ikka
Poor Mongeaux is just a pawn in the game of life ?

Don't know. Got something to do with where "choo-choo go...

27 posted on 06/06/2005 11:43:44 PM PDT by Mongeaux
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To: konaice

Most of us fly through the auspices of an airline. Where is it written or implied that we have the right to fly with a private company?


28 posted on 06/06/2005 11:56:31 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: Who dat?

I believe the way it works is, it is a voluntary program. But, once you participate *once*, you've signed up forever. I suspect that participation would include being listed as someone's dependant on their return. Hence, the requirement for SSN's of dependants. So, the only people who stand a chance of not paying or filing are those who have never appeared on a 1040.


29 posted on 06/07/2005 12:11:51 AM PDT by I_dmc
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To: ikka

In Bivens v. Six Unknown Agents of Federal Bureau of Narcotics, 403 U.S. 388, 91 S. Ct. 1999 (1971), the Supreme Court stated that a person subjected to unlawful search and seizure in violation of the Fourth Amendment could sue the federal agents involved for damages caused by the violation. A Bivens claim, therefore, has come to mean a suit for monetary damages against individuals who, under color of federal authority, violate constitutional rights.


30 posted on 06/07/2005 12:19:56 AM PDT by I_dmc
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To: thegreatbeast

"Where is it written or implied that we have the right to fly with a private company?"

They are common carriers who are only allowed to conduct business at the pleasure of the people. Any time the people want, they can yank their charter and tell them to fly in and out of Uganda.


31 posted on 06/07/2005 12:48:28 AM PDT by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: SedVictaCatoni
Do you think maybe this guy wants to go to jail? Be a martyr maybe?
32 posted on 06/07/2005 2:44:45 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: SedVictaCatoni

Mr. Kanning is going to have a whole bunch of new pen pals and visitors now!


33 posted on 06/07/2005 2:55:35 AM PDT by GadareneDemoniac
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To: Dada Orwell; Abram; Annie03; Baby Bear; bassmaner; Bernard; BJClinton; BlackbirdSST; blackeagle; ...

Libertarian Ping! (Reminds me of this story: Free Stater Jailed for Performing Manicure Glad to see these guys are active.

34 posted on 06/07/2005 3:10:07 AM PDT by traviskicks (Temporarily filling in for freepatriot32 w/ the Libertarian Ping list.)
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To: Hank Rearden

Saw that yesterday, and said to my husband--maybe that's what it's going to take. Maybe, and I can't believe I'm saying this, maybe it has to get worse before it gets better.

When everyone "out there" is asleep, doesn't know that they don't have a right to travel, doesn't think of endless taxation as a slavery issue, doesn't see anything wrong with their children belly down on the school hallway floor and sniffed by dogs, how can we hope to change a damn thing?

I will never again let someone tell me a Libertarian vote is a wasted vote. Surely there are enough of us to make ourselves heard, before the government starts officially cancelling the BOR. Maybe the way to do that is to affect a campaign.


35 posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:25 AM PDT by SoVaDPJ
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To: Born in a Rage

I'm with ya there.


36 posted on 06/07/2005 3:48:28 AM PDT by sopwith (don't tread on me)
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To: konaice

"FBI: "flying is not a right."
And where did they get that idea?"

Interstate Commerce and the right to regulate IS in the Constitution.


37 posted on 06/07/2005 4:24:47 AM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: ikka
therefore the Feds at the airport will only taser him once and probably not hit him with a baton.

ROFLMBO. Thanks. :-)

38 posted on 06/07/2005 5:23:05 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: SittinYonder; ikka

I disagree. I think he will be stuned by a beeber like device.


39 posted on 06/07/2005 6:22:10 AM PDT by SoVaDPJ
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To: SedVictaCatoni

"Kanning also told the agents he has not paid Income Taxes since '98.

Yeah, that was smart."

it's more or less what Gandhi did to the British. Told them up front exactly what laws he was going to violate and when and why.


40 posted on 06/07/2005 7:38:14 AM PDT by Dada Orwell (www.freestateproject.org)
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