Posted on 06/06/2005 10:21:35 PM PDT by Dada Orwell
From NHfree.com Keene, New Hampshire 6/6/05
FBI questions Keene I.D. refusenik
Two FBI agents from the Boston division paid a visit to Russell Kanning's house in Keene today, about two weeks after he announced he would seek to board a Manchester airline flight with no I.D.
The 35-year-old libertarian activist wasn't home but rather cheerfully agreed to meet up with the agents at his workplace. Special Agents Phil Christiana and Mark Alford spent about an hour interviewing him around 2PM on Monday, June 6.
"They were really friendly," he says, "they obviously weren't there to arrest me...The thing they were most concerned about was whether I was actually going to stay non-violent." Kanning says the answer to that is "yes."
"There's nothing those guys can do to me at the airport that would make me use violence."
He says the agents seemed to relax somewhat and left after coming to the conclusion that he is not a physical threat and also that he cannot be deterred from his act of civil disobedience. They did spend time lecturing him on national security issues and told him "flying is not a right."
"My impression after talking to them is that the likelihood of them breaking into my house or doing something like that is small."
Kanning also told the agents he has not paid Income Taxes since '98. He moved to New Hampshire in November 2004 after joining the Free State Project, a libertarian movement seeking to accomplish "liberty in our lifetime" in New Hampshire.
"flying is not a right."
Yep, first it was driving. That used to be a right until some bright politician in Massachusetts decided it was profitable to make it illegal. Now as far as the goon squads are concerned, it's flying, taking a bus or train (since the goons are in charge of that now too) and just you wait, in the name of "security" walking without govt permission will be illegal too. Americans are sheep. They get the bloody rear end they deserve.
That needed to be fanned white-hot after this morning - even raising federal civil-rights issues to really draw attention to it.
But no, it might be inconvenient for Rossi's professional-politician career apparently. And it's not like he was arguing the case himself; did he even show up in the courtroom the last two weeks? I never saw him in all the coverage I watched.
By just walking away, the anger you talk about is already starting to dissipate. Yeah, sure, we're pissed off, but nobody I talked to today even knew about the trial, much less that there was a ruling today.
It's over hank.
rejoice.
the feds win, won and will win for the forseeable future.
surprise surprise.
you may be right.
but it's too late to revolt.
the lot is cast, and we were the ones sold for less than thirty pieces of silver.
started a long long time.. ago.
Poor Mongeaux is just a pawn in the game of life ?
Two points:
1. He is just going to engage in civil disobedience and will not be violent, therefore the Feds at the airport will only taser him once and probably not hit him with a baton.
2. The right to travel freely in the USA is a right, the specific mode of transportation is not mentioned.
Parting thought: did Kanning ask the FBI if they knew what a Bivens claim is?
Most of us fly through the auspices of an airline. Where is it written or implied that we have the right to fly with a private company?
I believe the way it works is, it is a voluntary program. But, once you participate *once*, you've signed up forever. I suspect that participation would include being listed as someone's dependant on their return. Hence, the requirement for SSN's of dependants. So, the only people who stand a chance of not paying or filing are those who have never appeared on a 1040.
In Bivens v. Six Unknown Agents of Federal Bureau of Narcotics, 403 U.S. 388, 91 S. Ct. 1999 (1971), the Supreme Court stated that a person subjected to unlawful search and seizure in violation of the Fourth Amendment could sue the federal agents involved for damages caused by the violation. A Bivens claim, therefore, has come to mean a suit for monetary damages against individuals who, under color of federal authority, violate constitutional rights.
"Where is it written or implied that we have the right to fly with a private company?"
They are common carriers who are only allowed to conduct business at the pleasure of the people. Any time the people want, they can yank their charter and tell them to fly in and out of Uganda.
Mr. Kanning is going to have a whole bunch of new pen pals and visitors now!
Libertarian Ping! (Reminds me of this story: Free Stater Jailed for Performing Manicure Glad to see these guys are active.
Saw that yesterday, and said to my husband--maybe that's what it's going to take. Maybe, and I can't believe I'm saying this, maybe it has to get worse before it gets better.
When everyone "out there" is asleep, doesn't know that they don't have a right to travel, doesn't think of endless taxation as a slavery issue, doesn't see anything wrong with their children belly down on the school hallway floor and sniffed by dogs, how can we hope to change a damn thing?
I will never again let someone tell me a Libertarian vote is a wasted vote. Surely there are enough of us to make ourselves heard, before the government starts officially cancelling the BOR. Maybe the way to do that is to affect a campaign.
I'm with ya there.
"FBI: "flying is not a right."
And where did they get that idea?"
Interstate Commerce and the right to regulate IS in the Constitution.
ROFLMBO. Thanks. :-)
I disagree. I think he will be stuned by a beeber like device.
"Kanning also told the agents he has not paid Income Taxes since '98.
Yeah, that was smart."
it's more or less what Gandhi did to the British. Told them up front exactly what laws he was going to violate and when and why.
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