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SUPREME COURT RULING: You can arrest those using marijuana for medical purposes

Posted on 06/06/2005 7:16:18 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs

Per Fox News:

The Supreme Court has ruled Medical Marijuana as illegal.


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To: highball
Yet our constitution says that the government by 2/3 vote and 3/4 can do exactly that. It can take away any of your "rights" that it chooses.

Your individual rights are not sacred. And they aren't guaranteed. I think libretarians forget that sometimes.

321 posted on 06/06/2005 9:34:57 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: kjam22
I don't think there are such thing as "rights". That's just a word that Jefferson used.

There's no point in continuing our discussion, then. Best to you.

322 posted on 06/06/2005 9:35:14 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: kjam22

Hate for this to sound like a strawman but are you saying California's laws are not a violation of the Second Amendment?


323 posted on 06/06/2005 9:35:19 AM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

How about Rush Limbaugh . . .


EXACTLY!
And alot more like him!

How many legal drug pushers have gotten people who hooked on some heavy duty narcotics? I would say the entire Psychiatry Profession


324 posted on 06/06/2005 9:35:36 AM PDT by missyme (Tell it like it is!)
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To: I got the rope

I didn't say they aren't a violation of the 2nd ammendment. I said they weren't in opposition to laws that our represenatives have created.


325 posted on 06/06/2005 9:36:35 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Best to you too... I hope you read the whole post before you checked out.

Have a great day!

326 posted on 06/06/2005 9:37:07 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: kjam22

I'll admit that "endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights" stuff sounds good. But, I don't find it in the Bible. Our sovereign God both endows and repeals "rights" when He works through the governments He puts in place.


327 posted on 06/06/2005 9:38:05 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: newgeezer

Yep...


328 posted on 06/06/2005 9:39:03 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: kjam22
I don't think there are such thing as "rights". That's just a word that Jefferson used.

Therein lies the crux of the problem. The Constitution is full of words like "rights", put there by men like Jefferson. When they put them there, they meant very specific things to them. The question is wheather we have any obligation to respect and adhere to that meaning or wheather we can simply discard it and substitute our own for the sake of convenience. Do we render unto Ceasar, or blow him off?

329 posted on 06/06/2005 9:39:07 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: missyme
How many legal drug pushers have gotten people who hooked on some heavy duty narcotics? I would say the entire Psychiatry Profession

I wouldn't disagree. About ten years ago, I went through a divorce, and for the first time in my life, I went to a psychiatrist. The man was practically chomping at the bit to get me started on Zoloft.

330 posted on 06/06/2005 9:39:32 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: newgeezer

Did He put Bill Clinton in place?

Because if He didn't, we shouldn't be so willing to let the federal government take our inalienable rights away.


331 posted on 06/06/2005 9:40:16 AM PDT by highball
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To: newgeezer

That sounds alot like rule by "Divine right". I thought we got away from that when we seperated ourselves from the British Crown. Saying that means you believe that Stalin and Mao, in the massacre of millions, were merely doing God's work. Please tell me I'm wrong...


332 posted on 06/06/2005 9:42:46 AM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (Our legal system is in a PVS. Time to remove it from the public feeding trough.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

"The man was practically chomping at the bit to get me started on Zoloft."

I AM on Zoloft and it's been a lifesaver for me.


333 posted on 06/06/2005 9:44:04 AM PDT by Gone GF
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To: brazzaville
I agree with you in general, but I fail to see how voter approved use of marijuana by a citizen violates anyone's individual rights. Does voter approved denial of citizen's benefits to illegals violate any citizen's individual rights?

Citizen's benefits to illegals involves the use of government money to provide a benefit.

Thing with this, is that it's a private transaction -- in fact, at least one of the parties in this grew and smoked his or her on marijauna. Therefore it shouldn't be anyone's business.

Furthermore, this is a case where people were using marijuana to relive their suffering -- this was a medical decision. I don't believe the government has a place interfering in that, either.

334 posted on 06/06/2005 9:44:18 AM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: kjam22; newgeezer

I disagree. God told us to be "under authority", but he never told us to follow laws that are not Biblical. Defense is certainly Biblical.

In this case however our Ministers of Justice (Supreme Court) have usurped the power of the legislative branch of government. The majority's opinion and the restriction of state's rights is based on "commerce" that does not exist.


335 posted on 06/06/2005 9:44:41 AM PDT by I got the rope
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To: tacticalogic
Here's the thing. I'm not a Jefferson worshiper like so many here. They wrote a good document. It would have worked better today if they had anticipated abortion, the internet, television, radio, electricity, cars, trains, dishwashers, transistors, computers, the end of slavery, the war on terror, and on and on.

I don't believe we have God given rights. Because "rights" as you guys would define them, infer that we can do what we want without consequence in certain areas. I don't think that's accurate. I think we have God given choices. The ability to chose anything. Freewill. And with each choice comes a consequence established by God. And some consequences established by our government. I just want those governmental ones to be "the will of the people". Otherwise the government becomes oppressive. Oppressive when it oversteps the "will of the people".

336 posted on 06/06/2005 9:44:46 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Oh yeah, in fact on the Today Show a couple days ago they had a Doctor speaking on insomnia, and she was advising some powerful narcotics for people to take stating "Oh there's no problem with Addiction if you take them responsibly!


337 posted on 06/06/2005 9:45:12 AM PDT by missyme (Tell it like it is!)
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To: Gone GF
I AM on Zoloft and it's been a lifesaver for me.

I'm glad it's working out for you---truly. It turned me into a complete zombie, so I took myself off it. What worked for me were gin, tonic, and the Devil's Weed.

338 posted on 06/06/2005 9:46:46 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: takenoprisoner
And now it's time to bust some heads on those dope smokin sickos with cancer and MS!

Uh, one of the petitioners in this case was prescribed marijuana for . . . ahem . . . back discomfort.

The pro-pot forces have a huge credibility problem that traces to the fact that they think that we skeptics don't see these pain-and-woe initiatives for what they are: trojan horses to get recreational pot use legalized.

You may have good arguments to make. If you do, stick with them and stop insulting out intelligence.

339 posted on 06/06/2005 9:48:41 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles

Your post makes me think that possibly this decision may have some unintended political consequenses by having many liberal drug supporters heading over to the libertarian party.

Mike


340 posted on 06/06/2005 9:49:27 AM PDT by BCR #226
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