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End Of Days: When America Falls
mensnewsdaily.com ^ | June 4, 2005 | Bob Newman

Posted on 06/04/2005 8:22:02 PM PDT by bitt

No country lasts forever. That’s an inarguable fact.

History reveals three primary reasons why countries fall, governments change and ways of life vanish.

The Taliban, Saddam, Nazis and many other governments fell because of war with other nations.

Revolutions brought on by internal strife, an insurgency, social unrest and disillusionment, reduced respect and admiration of the nation’s military (note that the Marines and Army are finding it very difficult and sometimes impossible to meet their recruiting goals), loss or reduction of social values and norms, and political extremism bring down some governments. Examples include Iran in 1979, France in the late 18 th Century, China in the late 1940s, and Mexico and Russia in the early 20 th Century.

Sometimes governments just quit for a variety of reasons, resulting in ethnic fragmentation, like in the case of the Soviet Union.

Perhaps you noted that America is currently suffering from two of the three aforementioned reasons why countries fall.

Right now, America is fighting a type of war–global asymmetric warfare–that has never been fought before by any nation. Our enemies wear no uniforms, abide by no rules, attack civilian targets, are in 90 countries including our own and want every American dead and the country destroyed.

We are suffering from political extremism mostly on the left; a clear reduction of social values and norms; widespread disillusionment when it comes to the war, social issues, politics, and the economy; and even some strife (a huge homeless population, high bankruptcy rate, a massive illegal alien population consisting of between 16 and 20 million people, etc.).

What makes many Americans think America is invulnerable to collapse or destruction? Such a belief is spectacularly arrogant.

History applies to all countries. According to history, we are far more at risk than what most Americans believe.

Extremists in the media (the Denver Post’s Reggie Rivers, the Rocky Mountain News’ Jason Salzman, the New York Times’ Tom Friedman, Paul Krugman and Maureen Dowd; Bill Moyers, Air America’s Al Franken, Michael Moore, Barbra Streisand, Tim Robbins, Sean Penn, Susan Sarandon, Ed Asner, et al), politics (Howard Dean, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, Rep. Barbara Boxer, Sen. Ted Kennedy, Sen. John Kerry, Sen. Robert Byrd, et al), and our collective societal commode (Ward Churchill, Louis Farrakhan, et al) are trying to dramatically change America as we know it. From their influential (upon many Americans suffering from muddy thinking) positions, such radicals fuel the flames of hate and discontent among those who are repulsed by the very idea of the United States Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Fury, frustration and disbelief replace reason and respect when these types are forced to accept major political losses and when they realize most Americans disagree with their fanatical agendas. Their shrill fanaticism acts as an accelerant in creating an emotional inferno among the followers of such would-be tyrants, which increases the chances America falling while advancing the time line for our demise.

Nevertheless, many if not most Americans, in their complacency and ignorance of history, believe we have no reason to worry; that America will always exist regardless of history and the threats currently facing our nation.

How very, very wrong they are.


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To: Donald Meaker
Will we fall? Perhaps. Will we leave a legacy? I think so.

And what was the legacy of Rome? How did they fall?

Rome decayed and collapsed from within. They descended into debauchery and immorality and their light was extinguished. What do you see all around you in this country, today? Perhaps the sole reason we continue to be blessed is that we helped create the modern state of Israel and nutured her to her present strength. The Bible says that those who Bless the children of the Lord shall themselves be blessed, those who curse his children shall be cursed. Are we not slowly falling away from the support of Israel? The Presbyterian Church (the LIBERAL USA wing, not my own fundamentalist PCA wing) has divested itself of all support for Israel. Bad move. Other churches may be following suit. What will be our legacy? Let's hope not the same as that of Rome.

81 posted on 06/05/2005 3:05:36 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Donald Meaker
Although to medievals cannons may have been just as astonishing as nukes, they did not have the ability to vaporise millions in one shot.  

I agree with your submission that any group who decides to 'go nuclear' on the US is signing their own death warrant.  Thing is, I keep hearing that these people want to die, but I don't see this as a whole, only a few individuals.  If they really did not fear death, they would charge enmass on us ... ain't seeing it happen are we?  I think their willingess to die and join Allah is just another overblown Islamic myth.

82 posted on 06/05/2005 3:49:25 PM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: moog
Actually, at least around here, most teachers don't "coach" their kids against the military.

I've been a high school social studies teacher for the last sixteen years here in Miami Dade County, the last eight in the inner city and you'd better believe that a lot of teachers wear their liberal agendas on their sleeves! So that's the first thing I always discuss with my seniors each year, the difference between subjects, issues and agendas. See my "about page" for further details, lol. I fight the liberal agenda everyday and I have had many successes, even if only tangentially.

I teach American Government, Economics, Psychology and Sociology. Next year, my administration wants me to teach Advanced Placement classes for which it is possible to receive college credit if certain conditions are met. For the first time, I'm going to get a chance to teach the movers and shakers of our future. Awesome responsibility and I can't wait for the next school year to start!

83 posted on 06/05/2005 4:47:26 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel; Quix; Cindy; Oorang; Godzilla; jerseygirl; appalachian_dweller; ...
But I'd say we have a few more centuries to go before we start planning our own funeral.

Go to church on a regular basis? The Bible's prophesies have been 100% on the mark thus far. One of those prophesies says that when Israel is born as a nation in a single day (as was the case in May of 1948) that generation shall not pass away before the world sees the return of the son of man (Jesus Christ). That started the clock ticking. A Biblical "generation" is about 60 years in duration.

According to the Bible, a global catastrophe will occur and a "savior" will appear to heal the situation. This savior will come from the old monarchies of Europe and he will be the AntiChrist. He will be winsome and gentle and a HEALER (at first). The world will be drawn to him. When he begins to consolidate power those who love freedom will rise against him. Who might that be? Two things must happen before the AntiChrist can rise:

#1 The Bible says that the Church will be removed. RAPTURE READY? Within a short time that era of history will give rise to the period known in the Bible as The Tribulation. It will last for seven years.

#2 Even before that wondrous event, the United States of America MUST be removed from the global stage as a world superpower. What form this will take, I don't know.

Right now, FX Network is running a movie titled Oil Storm and I highly recommend that every freeper see it, because it seems at least plausible to me. A hurricane takes out the Louisiana refineries and oil platforms causing the price of crude to shoot up to $150 a barrel. That would wipe out the American economy pretty quick.

I could also see an act of nuclear terrorism (one or more actual devices detonating not just the so called Dirty Bomb) as shattering our society.

Now, since I am also a history teacher, here's a neat little tidbit from the ancient civilizations of the Mayans and the Aztec. Those two groups developed an amazingly accurate and intricate calendar. This calendar in both civilizations simply ENDS in the year 2012. Now, subtract seven years of Tribulation and you get what year? Maybe only six months to go? Relax, the sky is not falling. God is firmly in control. But I'm more than ready.

I'm not a date setter, I merely offer this as interesting possibilities. The Bible also says that nobody except God the Father knows the date and hour of the return of Jesus. But the time is without doubt drawing near. In fact the recent seeming collapse of the European Union plays directly into Biblical prophesy, which suggests that the era of the rise of AntiChrist will show ten nations instead of the multitudes of the current union. That will fall apart and be reborn as something else. So the stage there is essentially set.

All that remains as a major obstacle to the Prince of Evil is the USA and it's 100 million armed citizens. Why do you think all the gun control initiatives are being so frantically pushed (by the UN and their liberal lapdogs in this country) even though the proponents know it's a losing issue for them? Gotta wonder about that.

Read this book: The Creature From Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin. It's a book on economics and the Federal Reserve that illustrates vividly what I've just postulated in terms of my Christianity. It is NOT boring and reads in fact like a political thriller, with a summary of each chapter offered at the end of that chapter. It'll scare the crap outta you, and if you're not a believer in Jesus Christ, it should. If you want to know where your immortal soul will reside at the end, just check out the website above.

84 posted on 06/05/2005 5:43:01 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: ExSoldier

Actually the debauchery was pretty much over by the 100s. What ever you have to say about the Byzantines, they were not debauched. They suffered endless turmoil from conflicts between religious orthodoxy and the human drive to progress, even in the field of religion. The development of heresy, rather than creating a diverse and turbulent religion with depths unplumbed, dragged the power of the state into unknown, and unknowable matters of faith. These conflicts cause the destruction of the Iconoclasts, and created the faultlines of the schisms.


85 posted on 06/05/2005 6:55:34 PM PDT by Donald Meaker (i)
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To: Fenris6

Actually Rome didn't fall from debauchery. It fell to Turkish cannon, and the Janissaries, Muslim children of captive Crusaders.

The Turks were imported from central asia to fight for Romans. The AngloSaxons were imported to fight for the Romanized Celts. The Franks a German tribe imported to fight for the Gaullic Celts, and eventually took over.

So long as we fight for ourselves, we have a chance. Of course today, we may build fighting robots, with the Star Wars-y risks of that path.


86 posted on 06/05/2005 7:03:48 PM PDT by Donald Meaker (i)
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To: moog

btt


87 posted on 06/05/2005 7:15:35 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Ciexyz

btt

I know, I know. I have seen it happen a ton of times on different posts with others besides me, though I am probably the worst offender. People do talk about a variety of things. I just happen to have a lot more hot air in me and ramble more than most. :) Sorry.


88 posted on 06/05/2005 8:57:47 PM PDT by moog
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To: conservativeimage.com

Yup, there was, and with the ideals of Christianity front and center, a sort of separation of Church and State, but cooperative in nature rather than adversarial (which scholars call the "Byzantine Symphony of Powers"): the post-Constantinian Roman Empire, with its capital at New Rome (a.k.a. Constantinople). French scholars in the 1700's decided to rename it the "Byzantine Empire" after the old Greek city on whose site Constantine build the new capital, but there never was such an Empire, it was the Roman Empire even as it dwindled to a city-state (thanks in part to the treachery of the Crusaders) and was finally destroyed in 1453 by the same folks we're fighting now: the Muslims.

(The "Fall of Rome" in 476 is an invention of Gibbon, who vested tremendous significance in the retirement of the last Western Augustus to a villa in Naples. It was a non-event, unmarked by any contemporaries. Or anyone else until Gibbon--witness the fact that Charlemagne regarded his coronation as the reestablishment of the office, and took offense when the Emperor at Constantinople wouldn't recognize him as his counterpart.)


89 posted on 06/05/2005 9:36:39 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (Christ is Risen! Christos Anesti! Khristos Voskrese! Al-Masih Qam! Hristos a Inviat!)
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To: Donald Meaker

Good to see someone else remembers the history right.

On 9/14/2001, singing the Troparion of the Holy Cross, I had a feeling what the hymn must have felt like when sung in Constantinople during all the long years when the Empire was under constant threat: "O God save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, granting to {believing KIngs]* victory over all their enemies, and by Thy Cross preserve Thine estate."

*It is now sung in a democatized version with "Thy people" substituted for "believing Kings".


90 posted on 06/05/2005 9:42:08 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (Christ is Risen! Christos Anesti! Khristos Voskrese! Al-Masih Qam! Hristos a Inviat!)
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To: conservativeimage.com

As much as I would like to believe you, that is not entirely true. The cultural aspects, like an overwhelming devout Christian population, around the time of our independence was the the reason we are Christian today. Our founding forefathers (at least the famous ones we are more familiar with) did hold most of the morals that went into the framework of their new country. However, you must realize that they were also _enlightenment_thinkers_. Their love for democracy sprung from this. The original enlightenment thinkers, as well as the flavor our founders adopted, had somewhat of a distrust for religion. They may not have resisted the teachings of the Bible and Jesus Christ, but they DID see harm in adopting any belief whatsoever without first questioning it.

Also notable is the fact that our founders saw (and vividly remember) what may arise if our government makes too much of a commitment with one. I know you all know the story about the puritains being persecuted. The reason was that the government of England adopted _the_church_of_England_ (which actually had a real tendency to radically shift when a King or Queen's term ended). Remember "Bloody Mary"? As much as I would like to use that power, so would everyone else...even people I fundamentally disagree with. I, like our founding forefathers, do not want to risk that. That sort of power has the ability to turn nasty. It is also a source of shearing strife and turmoil.

Our founding forefathers knew that there is always change. They wanted our country to be nimble enough to adapt, yet still have a strong, stable foundation. This is why they made it exceptionally hard to change our foundation, the Constitution. As conservatives, we all should admire that. This unique blend of stability and nimble-ness is exactly why we have already accomplished, are presently, and will always prevail!


91 posted on 06/06/2005 12:12:03 PM PDT by indythinker
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To: The_Reader_David

I knew there would have to be another history geek on this thread.

I was always more interested in the military history more than the religious. Odd how much you pick up of each when trotting through the Byzantine swamp.

Old Constantinius the 12th did off his badges of office, and lead his court in an attack against the Janissaries. I could never make up my mind, was it an act of faith, or a suicide?

First I heard of the Troparion. Thanks for that!


92 posted on 06/06/2005 7:39:30 PM PDT by Donald Meaker (i)
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To: bitt; JockoManning; Alamo-Girl; Las Vegas Dave; auggy; DAVEY CROCKETT
Was scrolling on my way to another thread buried amongst my comments months ago to post the following. Perhaps here's a good place, too.

Please pray about pinging anyone you feel could constructively benefit from such a post.

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Am still in the midst of my 7 week trip to see relatives and loved ones across the USA--particularly in the MidWest.

Before I left on my trip, I KNEW (95-99% certainty) that my Alzheimer's ridden mother would graduate from this life before I returned. She was sleeping as I was about to walk out the door--and knowing I'd not see her again alive, I wanted to hug her extra tight. Dad just said to kiss her on the forehead, which I did. She would not have remembered the hug more than 2 minutes anyway. I didn't tell Dad what I sensed.

She died within a week. My step-mother died 5-6 days earlier. I'd missed or not focused on any sensing of that one.

What I haven't shared on FR or with any FREEPERS yet is the following. As I prayerfully pondered my trip, I also felt (50-70%??? 'certainty'--hard to pin down--above average but not as certain as the feeling about mother dying) that there would be a major devastating something hit the USA before my trip was over.

I have hesitated saying anything to anyone because the sense was less intense than the one about my mother. Or else my skepticism was muffling the sensing. Hard to say. Maybe I just feared being wrong again. In any case, I've just silently prayerfully pondered it.

Then the CA quake sequences started. I felt--UT-OH. I don't think my sensing about such is wrong after all. But I was still a bit wary.

Then last night, I decided to survey Bill Somers' site as I hadn't for many weeks. And, I came across several prophetic posts saying such things--one particularly noting that something was likely to happen 24 June. And there's the interesting one I'll put below with the maps.

I still don't know what. But I'm more convinced than before that there will be something much more devastating hit the USA before my trip is over 7 July.

And, I do believe that it will sort of kick off the 2005-2012 time period of dramatic change that one source has articulated and I think I've posted hereon somewhere. That is, once things start happening, there will be increasingly dramatic things happen with increasing speed. That I have no doubt of.

I don't know what the track record of the folks contributing to the following doc is. But I believe they are earnest folks sharing as they've perceived/sensed things as they've prayerfully pondered and experienced such inputs. So, as with everything--take it to God for what HE would have you learn from it, if anything. And, remember, HE SAYS: FEAR NOT but to cling ever more tightly TO HIM.

BTW, I think the lack of polish etc. about parts of the following is some evidence for their merit in being taken at face value. The folks in volved are not trying to get anything. They are just sharing out of their prayerful life experience.

Sooooo, FWIW:

SOMERS' LINK TO HIS "WHAT'S NEW" SECTION. This one is taken from the 2nd chunk of docs: http://www.etpv.org/whatsnew.html

Destruction upon the South, USA

LaTonya N. Malinconico

Destruction in the City

LaTonya N Malinconico

Late 2004

Dream One: I was in the middle of tall downtown buildings and a huge flood was coming so a group of people and I decided to hold on to the buildings inside of this tall see-through building. We were a little high up in the business building. The wind was huge and swept away almost anyone who was not holding on to something. And if you were holding on to something, you had to pray and hold as tight as you could because the wind came, then a big wave of water came. Then when people thought they were safe and were starting to get off the buildings, another wave came.

I remember I was in the street and I looked to my left side and saw the buildings shaking and slowly water started to come. I started to run back to the building but the dream was in slow motion. I barely made it before the water hit. I think I was in New York because the buildings were so huge. Somehow we got on a train ride and were leaving and I remember green grass but there was no conductor and everyone on the train looked tired. Then I woke up.

I had forgot about this dream until I started to research and write about my dream concerning the destruction of the south. So that is why it is posted along the destruction of the south dream. This dream along with many other people’s dreams about New York could mean that God is not playing when he shows us the things that will happen. If we don’t warn the people, God’s judgment will be on us for being bad watchmen. It also serves as a reminder that if we don’t have Jesus Christ as our foundation, we will get swept away by the wind and water like a house built on sand. So let’s be prepared.

Destruction upon the South, USA

LaTonya N Malinconico

Visions & Dreams

March 2005

Dream Two: My husband and I were together at my Aunt’s House and I was telling them that something was happening outside. It was dark all of a sudden and loud thunders where everywhere suddenly.

Then we went through one of the doors in the house and I was outside by myself and there were remnants of water everywhere. There was lightening. Huge lightening and I could tell where they would hit. Very loud!!!!

Everything was flooded and desolate. I was looking around and I could see people scattered and homeless people. A few trees still stood tall. I went under one tree because I didn’t want to be hit by lightening but a woman came and told me not to stand under the tree because there was a huge puddle of water there and the lightening was coming straight for it. In slow motion she grabbed me and the lightening struck and I felt it a little but it hit her instead. There were people in trenches and they were all scattered everywhere.

I woke up and went to the bathroom. There I was just starting to think about the interpretation when God gave me an open vision. It was a map of the United States and zoomed in to the south and there appeared what seemed to be a fault line that spread across the tip of California to the East coast of Florida & Georgia. Under the line everything was flooded, destroyed or devastated.

Then He said that the South will be destroyed because she used to be the Bible Belt and now she is a whore! Immoral in sex-sins and letting everyone run over her. I walked away and tried to go back to sleep but I couldn’t and I felt sad for the South so I prayed to God that he would forgive the Sins of the South and prolong her judgment.

(Isaiah 1:18-21) Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. (19) If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land: (20) But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it. (21) How is the faithful city become an harlot! it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers.

The Bible belt from Secular Sources

A bible belt is an area of fundamentalist Protestantism, where reliance on teachings from the holy books of Christianity is at its most pervasive, and often its most literal. In particular, the Bible Belt (with capitals) covers a number of southern and Midwestern states of the U.S.

The "belt" terminology is common in the U.S. to describe regions with a roughly east-west orientation that share a feature: e.g., the Rust Belt (declining industrial areas) and the Sun Belt (hot-weather states in the south and west).

“We all know the phrase, but where exactly is The Bible Belt? It is a geographical region in the South and midsection of the United States. To be a true Bible Belt Christian, you must have a clear understanding of the things you don't do, like smoking, dancing, going to the pool hall, drinking, or making a public appearance without a Bible in hand. You must believe that your actions are controlled by the Holy Spirit and that doing God's will is the most important part of your life -- no matter what scoffers might think.

Some say that certain people in the Bible Belt go overboard in both their religious and political (usually conservative) practices. But Bible Belters believe that their lives are totally controlled by God and they could no more change their ways than fly. Furthermore, they don't apologize for their seemingly irrational behavior. Like a favorite bumper sticker declares, "Christians aren't perfect, just forgiven."

The Great Awakening was the beginning of the movement. If there was a "Bible Belt" in America before then, it was located in the North with such groups as the Massachusetts Puritans and the Pennsylvania Quakers. But, about 1790, something happened. It was as if a great wave suddenly flooded the land. The second Pentecost had begun.”

Today in music, the south has impacted the lives of many through sex, drugs, cars and more sex. In videos today, especially in hip hop and pop, they are wearing no clothes. The rich go to strip bars. The girls get breast implants to be in MTV’s Spring Break. Pornography is made in the south. All of these factors along with the fact that there are so many gay couples in Atlanta and so much fornication in the sunny Miami Beach. Even here in Houston, if you stand up for the bible, they take it out of the court and tell you to go talk to the Supreme Court. Gay marriages, abortion clinics, it is all enough to God. The South needs to repeat.

I remember last year when a friend of mine told me that she had just come from a conference of preachers (nationally know) and that they were all staying at this top hotel. My friend loves to travel and have sex with famous people. She wants to be a groupie, so she is always going around to events.

I asked her why was she at a preacher’s conference. And she told me that they needed girls. Most of these well-known preachers where from the south and over big churches but they are addicted to porn and sex. Many, she said were well over there 50’s and still sinning. God does not like that.

Things like that make me wonder why the secular world is not interested in the gospel sometimes. They can tell when people are fake more than Christians sometimes. As Christians we are to stand up against the injustice of this nation, the sins of the pastors and teachers. God told us to preach the gospel.

If the Bible Belt is going to be judged by God for the things she has not done and taking care of, where does that leave me and you? Simply, we are to pray and ask God to forgive the sins of this nation and the South. We are to help those pastors who do have sins to stop and repent before the Lord. We are to make it hard for them to play sex on regular TV. We are God’s people and he wants a church with no blemish or spot.

I pray for the South and hope that God will prolong his judgment a little while longer. I have included a map of my dream along with references to Nita Johnson’s dream and Dumitru Duduman’s dream about America being destroyed to show the similarities of our dreams so that America can wake up. This is real, it is not a game to play with the Lord.

In Christ,

LaTonya Malinconico

This was the map in my dream- LaTonya Malinconico

The following article was from Mrs. R. B. Braswell (Hattie Irene French) taken from

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HERE: http://www.aarons-advocates.org

This is the Map of gulf of Mexico and the Rio Grande river flooding of Texas as Hattie saw it for the duration (two years) of the Visions and warnings given to her.

For many months only the Rio Grande River flooding was involved; then later for only a month or so, the Gulf Coast tipped into the Gulf of Mexico and was flooded (covered) with water.

No city names were mentioned and no absolute details as to where the cut off lines are to be were given. She was explicit about the southern lines being perfectly straight and helped me produce this map insofar as her poor eyesight could relate.

She always refereed to the straight southern border map as "Ugly Texas" Very close to the end of her life she heard the Words: "I Shall Restore!" and saw the form, (map) of Texas restored back to it's original shape; her comment was. "Oh Texas is beautiful again!"

This is the flooding map of the United States as Seen by my mother, Hattie; Dumitru Duduman, Dell, and Ephraim. America will burn areas are shown in Yellow, ALL of New York State will burn, not only New York City!

California, Florida, ALL of New York state is destroyed, and the city of Las Vegas are shown in yellow overlay and were seen by Dumitru Duduman as being "Sodom and Gomorra" and to be destroyed. The blue wavy portions of Texas are as seen by mother.

The Mississippi River Valley Basin is outlined exactly as Dell saw it by the names of numerous cities that he was given. Mother and Ephraim saw that area to be larger toward the top as the Mississippi drainage area widens to include the whole of the Great lakes and some of the lakes of Canada as well. Essentially the entire Mississippi River Valley is to be flooded by the Great Lakes draining through it. Mother saw two mushroom clouds at the very top of the space and Duduman was told that a place of Russian penetration would be in the state of Minnesota. The whole area is a well know geologic fault zone with the Madrid Fault underling the whole region. There are countless articles on the Madrid Fault disaster of 1811 on the net.

All of these visions and warnings to mother focus around Isaiah 18 with some references to Revelation 18. Duduman was given all of Revelation 18 and told "This is the United States!" The messages are about how repent unto salvation and how to live a clean life and not about fear.

The Vision

Nita Johnson

Excerpt from "Prepare For The Winds Of Change II."

On January 27, 1989, I had been in a spirit of prayer all night and was finally just starting to dose off to sleep. Suddenly, I was fully awakened by a vision of a map of the United States. It was not a vision in my head but was what some call an open vision out in front of me.

The map was in a silvery light and was completely sectioned off into states. just as suddenly as it had appeared, I heard a voice, as robust as the sound of many waters yet with great intensity, begin to give directions. Starting with the West Coast, the voice would speak and that same silvery light would shoot down from the direction of heaven like a laser beam onto the map.

The light would follow the path directed by the voice and then effects would follow as I will explain. First, the voice cried out: 'The West Coast, California, Oregon and Washington, starting from the southern most tip all the way up to Seattle, will suffer natural disasters, such as earthquakes, floods and fire, and enemy attack.

"The line shot up the map taking most of California and leaving only a small section that bordered on Arizona and Nevada. It went up through Oregon taking about half of that state and then on up through Washington, taking about one-third of that state, then moving out toward the ocean through Seattle. The minute the line touched Seattle, everything west of the line disappeared,

The voice then cried out, "Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, and Illinois will suffer natural disasters, such as floods, earthquakes and tornadoes, and enemy attack. immediately, this line started at about where Lansing, Michigan, is and fanned down in what became two lines going south first.

Then one line swung back up easterly through Ohio, going out over the Great Lake Erie through Cleveland. The other line swung down through Indiana and then headed back up northwesterly and went out into the Great Lake Michigan up by the way of the northeast corner of Illinois and out through Chicago. When it was done, it looked like two "u"s side byside. This affected areas all through the region, for instance, as far east as Detroit and easterly in Michigan to the Great Lake itself on the west. The whole southern part of the glove experienced cataclysmic results.

Next, the voice called out, "Most of Louisiana and all of Texas will suffer natural disasters, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, and enemy attack. " The line shot up through New Orleans east of Baton Rouge, up through Shreveport in a kind of wiggly way then cut off all of Texas. Texas disappeared. Louisiana experienced devastation but didn't disappear.

I was ready for this to end, yet the Lord continued.- New York down through Pennsylvania, the Virginias, the eastern Part of Tennessee, Georgia, and Florida will suffer natural disasters of every kind, hurricanes, flooding, earthquakes, etc. and enemy attack. "Then everything that was east of the line disappeared.

The Lord continued, "The Grand Canyon will suffer natural disasters. " The line seemed to start at the bottom of the Grand Canyon heading northerly straight up to Montana through Yellowstone.

This was also accompanied by cataclysmic disasters like floods, earthquakes, volcanoes, and fires. This affected a substantial area, including Arizona, Utah, western parts of Wyoming, the eastern tip of Idaho and southwestern part of Montana, The regions did not disappear, but experienced utter catastrophe.

Then Missouri, Mississippi, Arkansas, Alabama, West Tennessee, Kentucky, and on it went. There were severe heat waves, hailstorms, energy blackouts, severe snow and ice storms as well as extreme arctic cold spells to the loss of many lives. I saw it so often occur in some the least likely areas, famines, pestilence, plagues, and more.

Nevada and Utah were all but destroyed through natural disasters of every kind and ultimately enemy attack. They did, however, remain on the map (Please note that I am not declaring that the states that disappeared fell off into the sea. I don't know why they disappeared, only that they did. Consequently, I am merely relating what I saw, not trying to interpret.)

I was so dumbstruck that I felt numb, even bruised. It was hard for me to pull it all together in my mind. I just sat there in shock. Finally, I realized if I didn't write it down, I'd lose a lot of it as there was so much detail. So I wrote what I could remember Some states, such as New Mexico, were lost from my memory. I couldn't remember what happened to them, so I didn't record it.

I distinctly remember, however, that the only part of the US. that was not devastated was the Central United States, a region basically west of the Missouri River, as I have indicated on the map. I also realized that many of the things that would begin happening immediately would be of an unusual nature, such as natural disasters that would seem improbable or even impossible, at least for that particular geographical area,

I was instructed that this sequence of events would start immediately, picking up momentum with time until eventually the succession would be happening with gunshot rapidity, until all was fulfilled. It's important to understand that the natural disasters did not specifically follow "the lines", but the lines seemed to indicate the borders of the severely affected areas. The only one exception was the line that went up through the Grand Canyon north to Montana. In that case, the line seemed to symbolize the central core of action with a radiating aftermath both to the east and west. I saw natural disasters in Alaska and the Hawaiian Islands followed by warheads.

Finally, I saw a severe diminishing of our nation's military. Officers, and enlisted men, as well as the closing of many critical bases were part of the scenario. Our ability to defend ourselves was critically reduced, to a point of near ineffectiveness. (The Military cut down was not incorporated in this vision, but was seen many years ago.)

These disasters have already begun, just as He said they would. Since that vision, there have been two earthquakes in California, terrible fires, a hurricane on the East Coast that did what all the meteorologists said could never happen.

The storm entered inland through Charleston, South Carolina, went north and headed back into the ocean through New York. Flooding for the first time in history was recorded in a community in northern Ohio resulting in unusual deaths.

Most recently, there was an earthquake near the southern border of Missouri, and floods in the plains, and terrible disaster in Florida from tornadoes. Those are just a few instances, but hopefully, they're enough to drive the point home. These things are neither freak accidents, as some would have you believe, nor are they just satanic humor on mankind. Church, please realize that the Lord commanded everything that I saw hit the map.

He also told me it was part of the sequential calamities which are warnings ultimately leading to full judgment assigned to this country. They are like blinking red lights along the path of judgment. Go back! Stop! Repent! The end is at hand! Will you hear? Will you pray? How in His great mercy would He gladly stop or minimize catastrophe for His praying church!

As I said earlier, the church will be here through much of it, but not the worst of it. At that, some will utter a sigh of deep relief, but I can't. I don't want people I love left behind to experience that. I saw the devastation. Never again will the people be able to sing, "Oh, beautiful for spacious skies, with amber waves of grain, for purple mountain majesty above the fruited plain. America, America, God shed His grace on thee, and crown thy good with brotherhood, from sea to shining sea." It will no longer be true.

One better to quote will be Jeremiah:

Oh, that my head were waters, and my eyes a reservoir of tears, that I might weep day and night for the slain of the daughter of my people! (Jer. 9:1 Amp.)

The Lord does not delight in the announcements He has made. He has waited this long time that we, as a people, might repent. Some foolishly say, "God is love. He wouldn't do that."

My friends, God is also holy and for that reason He must let this nation who is so steeped in the love of sin and idolatry drink the whole cup of wrath that it has been storing up for two hundred years. If God judged Israel even one time for the sin of the nation, then He must unleash that same righteous judgment against America.

Last, but not least, it doesn't really matter if we believe all, part, or any of what has been written in these pages. If our response is continued apathy, it will all come to pass, most of it before our eyes, as the Lord will fulfill His purpose. The motivating factor, which will cause Him to purge the land by fire, is the sin that has and will continue to rise up before His throne day and night.

Canada will experience as much devastation through various forms of natural disaster, as America. As I shared in an earlier chapter, it will be for the same reasons. Both will experience the purging fire of judgment.

The Lord weeps over the souls of men who have and will suffer through these calamities. He weeps, for His heart breaks over our pain. Fear and unbelief blinds our eyes. Jesus longs to give His light and faith, and bring the sinner to repentance. The things that have moved Him to withhold His judgments up to this point are His intense love for His church and His now over extended mercy for the unrepentant.

HERE: http://www.etpv.org/1998/prepare.html

LaTonya N Malinconico

a.k.a. Kaoticgal tha prophetess

admin@visionsofthelastdays.com

admin@visionsofthelastdays.com

Please ping any you feel would benefit from such a post.

93 posted on 06/19/2005 10:17:46 AM PDT by Quix (LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
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To: All

Forgot to ping all.


94 posted on 06/19/2005 10:18:56 AM PDT by Quix (LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
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To: Quix

Quix,

Appreciate this. Good to hear from you.

All blessings,
JM


95 posted on 06/19/2005 5:09:26 PM PDT by JockoManning (www.biblegateway.com)
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To: All; Quix

Quote: 'All of these visions and warnings to mother focus around Isaiah 18 with some references to Revelation 18. Duduman was given all of Revelation 18 and told "This is the United States!" The messages are about how repent unto salvation and how to live a clean life and not about fear.'



Revelation 18 (New King James Version)


Revelation 18
The Fall of Babylon the Great

The Fall of Babylon the Great
1 After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory. 2And he cried mightily with a loud voice, saying, "Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird! 3For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury."

4And I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues. 5For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. 6Render to her just as she rendered to you, and repay her double according to her works; in the cup which she has mixed, mix double for her. 7In the measure that she glorified herself and lived luxuriously, in the same measure give her torment and sorrow; for she says in her heart, "I sit as queen, and am no widow, and will not see sorrow.' 8Therefore her plagues will come in one day--death and mourning and famine. And she will be utterly burned with fire, for strong is the Lord God who judges her.



The World Mourns Babylon's Fall
9"The kings of the earth who committed fornication and lived luxuriously with her will weep and lament for her, when they see the smoke of her burning, 10standing at a distance for fear of her torment, saying, "Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! For in one hour your judgment has come.'

11"And the merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her, for no one buys their merchandise anymore: 12merchandise of gold and silver, precious stones and pearls, fine linen and purple, silk and scarlet, every kind of citron wood, every kind of object of ivory, every kind of object of most precious wood, bronze, iron, and marble; 13and cinnamon and incense, fragrant oil and frankincense, wine and oil, fine flour and wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and bodies and souls of men. 14The fruit that your soul longed for has gone from you, and all the things which are rich and splendid have gone from you,and you shall find them no more at all.

15The merchants of these things, who became rich by her, will stand at a distance for fear of her torment, weeping and wailing, 16and saying, "Alas, alas, that great city that was clothed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls! 17For in one hour such great riches came to nothing.' Every shipmaster, all who travel by ship, sailors, and as many as trade on the sea, stood at a distance 18and cried out when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, "What is like this great city?'

19"They threw dust on their heads and cried out, weeping and wailing, and saying, "Alas, alas, that great city, in which all who had ships on the sea became rich by her wealth! For in one hour she is made desolate.'

20"Rejoice over her, O heaven, and you holy apostles and prophets, for God has avenged you on her!"



Finality of Babylon's Fall
21Then a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, "Thus with violence the great city Babylon shall be thrown down, and shall not be found anymore. 22The sound of harpists, musicians, flutists, and trumpeters shall not be heard in you anymore. No craftsman of any craft shall be found in you anymore, and the sound of a millstone shall not be heard in you anymore. 23The light of a lamp shall not shine in you anymore, and the voice of bridegroom and bride shall not be heard in you anymore. For your merchants were the great men of the earth, for by your sorcery all the nations were deceived. 24And in her was found the blood of prophets and saints, and of all who were slain on the earth."


96 posted on 06/19/2005 6:31:54 PM PDT by JockoManning (www.biblegateway.com)
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To: All; Quix

Isaiah 18 (New King James Version)

Proclamation Against Ethiopia

Prophecy Against Ethiopia
1 Woe to the land shadowed with buzzing wings,
Which is beyond the rivers of Ethiopia,
2Which sends ambassadors by sea,
Even in vessels of reed on the waters, saying,
"Go, swift messengers, to a nation tall and smooth of skin,
To a people terrible from their beginning onward,
A nation powerful and treading down,
Whose land the rivers divide."

3All inhabitants of the world and dwellers on the earth:
When he lifts up a banner on the mountains, you see it;
And when he blows a trumpet, you hear it.
4For so the LORD said to me,
"I will take My rest,
And I will look from My dwelling place
Like clear heat in sunshine,
Like a cloud of dew in the heat of harvest."

5For before the harvest, when the bud is perfect
And the sour grape is ripening in the flower,
He will both cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks
And take away and cut down the branches.
6They will be left together for the mountain birds of prey
And for the beasts of the earth;
The birds of prey will summer on them,
And all the beasts of the earth will winter on them.

7In that time a present will be brought to the LORD of hosts
From a people tall and smooth of skin,
And from a people terrible from their beginning onward,
A nation powerful and treading down,
Whose land the rivers divide--
To the place of the name of the LORD of hosts,
To Mount Zion.


97 posted on 06/19/2005 6:33:57 PM PDT by JockoManning (www.biblegateway.com)
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To: bitt
No country lasts forever.

That's why England isn't a country any longer.

98 posted on 06/19/2005 6:34:04 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: joanie-f

Previously discussed ping.


99 posted on 06/19/2005 6:49:31 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: bitt
Our "leaders" avoid nationalism like the plague.

Our "leaders" embrace globalism.

No nation can survive when the "leaders" do not protect our sovereignty, do not protect our borders, and have a growing percentage of the population as non-contributers to national revenue (taxpayers) and a shrinking number of taxpayers who are enslaved to the non-taxpayers.

American "leaders" have poisoned our nation--we are dying.
100 posted on 06/19/2005 7:04:16 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (The Republican'ts have no spine--they ALWAYS cave-in to the RATs.)
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