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1 posted on 05/27/2005 11:07:39 PM PDT by Jane_N
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To: Jane_N
When the President gained the overwhelming approval of the Congress

Ummm...when did this happen? The President did not seek a declaration of war from Congress.

2 posted on 05/27/2005 11:10:15 PM PDT by econ_grad
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To: Jane_N

Commonsense post...Thanks!


3 posted on 05/27/2005 11:10:22 PM PDT by lainde
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To: Jane_N

Good article. Going to read it again tomorrow when I'm actually awake.


4 posted on 05/27/2005 11:10:28 PM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: Jane_N
Dems also supporting Klinton breaking the UN arms embargo and letting the CIA ship $800 million in arms from Iran to the mujahedeen in Bosnia.
5 posted on 05/27/2005 11:20:53 PM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: Jane_N

save


8 posted on 05/27/2005 11:23:37 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Jane_N

The #1 reason for the RATS unhappiness is that they are not in charge. They bigtime love a war IF they can run the show.


9 posted on 05/27/2005 11:28:06 PM PDT by Waco
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To: spinestein; Old Sarge

Wading deeper into the rat mentality of sympathizing for our enemies...


13 posted on 05/27/2005 11:34:24 PM PDT by endthematrix (Newsweek lied, people died)
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To: Jane_N
"It is easy to understand where the sympathies of Democrats lie and why they supported the wars in Bosnia and Kosovo but not those that liberated 50 million people in Afghanistan and Iraq and have offered the hope of freedom throughout the Middle East and beyond. In the former, victory meant protecting and strengthening a non-Western culture – the Islamists -- while victory in the latter meant the further spread of such “Western” values as freedom and democracy at the expense of such “diverse cultural practices” as oppression, mass murder, and terrorism."

That's worth repeating, but we've been saying here on FR since Pres. Clinton's 1999 war.

15 posted on 05/27/2005 11:36:25 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Jane_N

It doesn't explain why, if they think America spreading peace and freedom and democracy is so bad, why they supported the liberation of Kosovo.


28 posted on 05/28/2005 12:07:29 AM PDT by edsheppa
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To: Jane_N

Islamofascism is the only popular (if I can use that term) totalitarian movement so after the fall of communism the leftists have had to gravitate towards this new fascism. Almost anything the Islamists do is good just like almost anything the Soviet Union did was good according to the left. There were crimes committed by both Christians and Muslims in the Balkans, but intervention there mainly helped the Isamic radicals and this area became a training ground for terrorists. That is the only reason the left wanted to intervene in the Balkans in the first place, not to help innocent people (Muslim or Christian) who were being attacked, but to strengthen the Islamic radicals there.


30 posted on 05/28/2005 2:57:43 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell
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This is Slobodan Milosevic, an innocent man being tried by a so-called International Criminal Tribunal in the Hague, Holland, presumably for attempting to deport (or ethnically cleanse) albanian islammites from a Serbian province for barbaric conduct over a protracted period of time.

One assumes that the Dutch are practicing to try themselves for ethnic cleansing and genocide, since they themselves are now beginning to expell muslims from their own country, also for barbaric conduct over a protracted period of time.

One can only assume that barbaric conduct over protracted periods of time is a sort of an islammite specialty.

Now, one way to prevent yourself from being charged with hypocricy, is to start torturing people. For the same reason that nobody would ever charge Al Capone with shoplifting, nobody would ever charge somebody like Adolf Eichman or Joseph Mengele with hypocrisy.

Thus it comes out that a prosecution witness in this trial of Slobodan Milosevic stood up in the courtroom and stated that prosecutors had attempted to torture an accusation against Milosevic out of him.

Now, in an American courtroom, that would be the instantaneous end of the trial and the prosecutor's career (doing anything other than washing dishes in the courtroom cafeteria) right there.

Thus there should be a question of how Americans would want to be associated with this process even before you consider the fact that Americans soundly reject the entire premise of the ICC and have gone as far as to pass a law requiring the president of the United States to use military force to rescue any American being held by that "tribunal". In other words, Holland would face the armed might of the United States military were it to try to do to any American what it is doing to Milosevic.

My advice to the Dutch: Don't sit around trying to guess whether or not that "Hague Invasion Act" is real or some sort of a joke; go ahead, try it. Kidnap some American soldier or political official and put him on trial for some sort of war crime charge in the Hague. I can't think of anything I'd have more fun watching than that, other than having the spetznaz rescue Slobodan Milosevic of course.

31 posted on 05/28/2005 3:00:44 AM PDT by tahotdog
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To: Jane_N

There might still be time to hand Kosovo back over to its rightful owners before the UN steps in demanding that we hand Texas and California over to Vincente Fox and the Atzlan crowd on the same perverted logic and basis.


32 posted on 05/28/2005 3:02:02 AM PDT by tahotdog
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To: Jane_N
Quote by Lawrence Eagleburger on the The MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour of 6 October 1992, Tuesday, Transcript #4470

"Muslims are being killed in Bosnia Herzegovina and this government has tried to demonstrate to the Muslim world that we care about them and we're willing to do something about it."

Translation:

Both the Clinton administration and the previous Bush (89-93) administration had to prove that they were not anti-Muslim, beginning with former Acting Secretary of State, Lawrence Eagleburger, who made it clear that a US goal in Bosnia was to placate the Muslim world. Eagleburger characterized the US government's pro-Muslim position in Bosnia as a counter to the Muslim world's perception of an anti-Muslim position regarding Iraq -- and if we had to destroy a small Orthodox Christian nation in the process, it was a small price to pay.

There are other reasons why Clinton and his gangsters went to war against the Christian Serbs that include:

1. Clinton couldn't allow this pipsqueak of a nation to defy the New World Order.

2. To draw attention away from this wag-the-dog president regarding the Monica Lewinsky seduction, a woman young enough to be his daughter.

3. NATO needed a new mission since the demise of the Soviet Union.

And I'm sure others can add more....

36 posted on 05/28/2005 3:44:33 AM PDT by Doctor13
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We didn't bomb the Serbs in Bosnia in '95 to remove Slobodan Milosevic - we bombed them because they were murderous SOB's and it was the only way to knock some sense into their empty heads and bring them to the table.

We didn't bomb the Serbs in '99 to remove Slobodan Milosevic from power, we bombed them to remove Slobodan Milosevic's forces from Kosovo, where they were acting like murderous SOB's.

When it finally came time to remove Slobodan Milosevic from power, we utilized economic and diplomatic means, being trade sanctions and our support of OTPOR in the Serbian elections of 2000, with follow on pressure from the current President's administration ensuring that he was transferred to the ICTY in the Hague to face the consequences of his actions. Serbia still to this day is unequal to the task of dealing with events from Milosevic's reign, which explains why the current President has maintained Serbia's status as a pariah nation. And so it shall be until Ratko Mladic and Radovan Karadzic are brought to justice.

It's simply not a Democrat/Republican issue, whatever those attempting to misrepresent it may say - it is worth remembering that Bob Dole was the Republican Presidential candidate in 1996, and it would be a hard case to make that he would have granted Milosevic as much leeway over Kosovo that Clinton did.

38 posted on 05/28/2005 6:38:47 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Jane_N
Wonderful article.

Tasty, and filled with essential vitamins.

40 posted on 05/28/2005 6:40:29 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Republican Party is the France of politics.)
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To: Jane_N

Though the democrats supported Clintons effortst...the far left did not support the war in Kosovo etc. Groups like International ANSWER, protested but did not receive wide spread support.


41 posted on 05/28/2005 7:30:44 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Jane_N

bump


43 posted on 05/28/2005 8:27:16 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: Jane_N; All; Hoplite
excellent post.

A little FReeper background thread on Bob Dole and the reasons behind the breakup of Yugoslavia leading to the Balkan conflict.

48 posted on 05/28/2005 9:34:22 AM PDT by MadelineZapeezda (If you right click on Madeline Albright's image, my name should show up!)
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