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Student says T-shirt slogans got her a day's suspension
http://www.accessnorthga.com ^ | 5 24 05

Posted on 05/26/2005 10:22:33 AM PDT by freepatriot32

A teenager was back in class Friday after receiving a one-day suspension for wearing a T-shirt with slogans including "freedom of expression" and "don't drink and drive" that school administrators considered disruptive.

Hanna Smith, 18, a junior at Tift County High School, said principal Mike Duck told her that if she wore the shirt again she would be suspended for the remainder of the year.

The principal was arrested six years ago for DUI and running a stop sign, the Tifton Gazette said Friday in a story on Smith's suspension. Duck made a public apology for the DUI and was himself suspended for five days.

Smith's mother, Tracy Fletcher, said she would defend her daughter's right to express herself, even if it means hiring an attorney and taking the case to court.

"They want everyone to fit into a mold and there's no room for individuality. These kids are our future, I think they should be treated with a little more respect. Their opinions count. Their thoughts count," Fletcher said.

The principal confirmed that Smith was back in class Friday without the banned T-shirt, which also had a peace symbol on the front and "Veritas" (truth) written on the back.

On Friday, Smith wore a different T-shirt, this one reading "Don't Underestimate Individuality," her mother said. The first letters of those words spell "DUI." Her mother said the teen plans to wear the banned T-shirt again on Monday.

Duck said he could not comment on the suspension.

"We can't discuss children and their issue," he said. "It's a matter of privacy and protection of their rights."

The school system's dress code forbids disruptive clothing, grooming and symbols. Principals decide what's disruptive.

"I have an obligation to maintain an orderly environment," Duck said. "The courts give me the authority and the right to make those decisions and as long as I'm sitting in this chair that's what I'm going to do."

Smith said she learned about Constitutional rights, such as freedom of expression, in class and wishes school officials would honor them.

"I think it's silly that we can't practice the freedoms that they teach us here," Smith said. "You would think that school officials would have respect for the law and people's rights, or at least they should."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Georgia
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To: xzins
I think a lot of folks think that high school is a place for kids to say and do cool, rebellious things.

Might these be the same people who complain that schools aren't doing a good enough job of teaching the kids?!
susie
81 posted on 05/26/2005 11:51:28 AM PDT by brytlea (Yes, there are Republican teachers...)
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To: xzins
What bothers me the most is that the principal seems to have done nothing to deserve Miss Smith's sarcastic commentary. I could at least understand if the guy had finagled his way out of the DUI, but Smith just seems to have gotten it in her head that Duck was going to be her experiment in no-penalty provocation. If she had done it to another student, I feel pretty confident in saying she would have had the slop beaten out of her in the bathroom or on the way home.
82 posted on 05/26/2005 11:52:21 AM PDT by aQ_code_initiate
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83 posted on 05/26/2005 11:53:48 AM PDT by evets (God bless President Bush and VP Cheney)
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To: aQ_code_initiate

"Before the 1960s, no one would have sided with the girl."

Before the 1960's she probably would have been sent home for wearing ANY T-shirt. :) I graduated in 1987 and was reminded numerous times at school to tuck my shirt in.

I once wore a button that said "No fat chicks" to school. It was confiscated and mysteriously disappeared. I don't remember suing anyone, though. ;)


84 posted on 05/26/2005 11:53:58 AM PDT by L98Fiero
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To: sharktrager; aQ_code_initiate

The educational purpose of the school remains despite isolated mistakes by staff.

I can see a time immediately after such an incident for a week or two when such will be a topic of discussion in any school. I don't think we're dealing with that here.

There has been time for T-Shirts to be made with intentionally inflaming messages printed thereon....not just one, but two. There has been time for a suspension.

This sounds like someone holding onto yesterday's news and using it to distract. I think the court will rule in favor of the school and that disruption will be the basis of their ruling.

What do you think the court will rule?


85 posted on 05/26/2005 11:56:33 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: absolootezer0
noticing your screen name.. have you seen previews for "the lion, the witch, and the wardrobe"? it's coming out at Christmastime.

Yep, I'm very psyched about this. The trailer looked very good! I think if they stick closely to Lewis's text they'll have a real winner. It's liable to get kids all stirred up about something the public schools don't like to admit exists.

86 posted on 05/26/2005 11:58:38 AM PDT by Puddleglum (Thank God the Boston blowhard lost)
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To: freepatriot32

M R ducks
M R not ducks
O S A R
C D E D B D wings?
Y I B! M R ducks!


87 posted on 05/26/2005 11:58:58 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.)
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To: aQ_code_initiate; brytlea

I'm sort of wondering why an 18 year old is just a "junior at Tuft High School."

I thought graduating seniors were normally 17/18 years old.

I smell a subplot here.


88 posted on 05/26/2005 12:00:09 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins

I think the court will rule in favor of the girl.

The shirts do not have an obviously negative image. Instead, they are actually positive. Anyone making the connection to the principal either knows the story, or was told the story, so the disruption remains the fault of others, specifically the principal.

Clearly his actions continue to impact his credibility, which, to me, raises serious questions regarding his fitness.


90 posted on 05/26/2005 12:04:11 PM PDT by sharktrager (The masses will trade liberty for a more quiet life.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick; Owl_Eagle
Was one of those by chance a George Carlin concert shirt? I had one that said that on the back and wore it to school my sophomore year.

You see, I was one of them attention seeking nonconformist types..........like everyone else.

91 posted on 05/26/2005 12:05:34 PM PDT by Sam's Army (Fight them)
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To: L98Fiero
and was reminded numerous times at school to tuck my shirt in.

At least you didn't have an Assistant Principal that would cut off your belt loops if you weren't wearing a belt through them.

92 posted on 05/26/2005 12:07:19 PM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: af_vet_1981

Now, why did you go make this political? Why do you assume that because I am on the side of authority and discipline that I'm a Clintonista? The idea is actually oxymoronic. (BTW, per Miss Smith's example, I've just launched two coded insults at you.) Okay, since you want to splash around in the political pond, let's test your principles. What if Michael Scheuer started wearing a t-shirt around the CIA calling Tenet a political puppet? Or what if a recruit at basic training decides his drill sergeant is an SOB and scrawls something to that effect on his shirt when he falls in for PT? How tolerant would you be of that? Or would you be part of the chorus proclaiming how richly they deserved what they got?


93 posted on 05/26/2005 12:07:48 PM PDT by aQ_code_initiate
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To: Rebelbase; Cagey; MotleyGirl70
Mr. Wilhelm???


94 posted on 05/26/2005 12:08:22 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: freepatriot32
I wonder what he would think of this shirt?
95 posted on 05/26/2005 12:08:29 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache ( "I think she did too much coke, ahh you think so Doctor?")
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To: aQ_code_initiate
What bothers me the most is that the principal seems to have done nothing to deserve Miss Smith's sarcastic commentary. I could at least understand if the guy had finagled his way out of the DUI, but Smith just seems to have gotten it in her head that Duck was going to be her experiment in no-penalty provocation. If she had done it to another student, I feel pretty confident in saying she would have had the slop beaten out of her in the bathroom or on the way home.

Well I suppose you think Bill Clinton's apology and suspension for impeachment meant all of us who wanted him to resign or be removed were just provocative. Many of the Clinton Fans felt that way and were quite keen on beating it out of us ...

96 posted on 05/26/2005 12:08:39 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: sharktrager

You make a good case. I think the girl could have gotten away with it if she'd left it at just the first shirt.

The coincidence of the 2nd shirt's acronym spelling DUI, though, was a bit too cute. I think the court will see through it.

There's also some reason an 18 year old is just a junior at this High School. I'm betting that these two have a history, not reported in this article, that will also come out.


97 posted on 05/26/2005 12:09:21 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins

Good point. She's obviously not kept up with her peers.


98 posted on 05/26/2005 12:09:33 PM PDT by aQ_code_initiate
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To: Sam's Army
NO, It was not George Carlin. I found them in a small shop in NYC. They had a lot of wild things for "attention seeking nonconformist types".

Nice to see you were one as well.

99 posted on 05/26/2005 12:09:44 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: af_vet_1981

You sure assume a whole lot.


100 posted on 05/26/2005 12:10:26 PM PDT by aQ_code_initiate
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