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Feinstein, Boxer hint at erosion of Senate civility
The San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | 5/25/05

Posted on 05/25/2005 11:06:04 AM PDT by South40

Democrats say they feel bullied by Republican rule

WASHINGTON – California's two senators may have voiced delight about the Monday compromise that averted a showdown on the filibuster, but the GOP's threat to abolish one of the most potent political weapons available to Democrats clearly left sore feelings toward Republicans and the White House.

"Today, there is not really active consultation by this administration in most cases," Sen. Dianne Feinstein told her colleagues this week. "Instead, there appears to be a kind of disregard for the opinions of all Democratic senators."

Sen. Barbara Boxer had similar sentiments, telling her colleagues that Republicans and President Bush have demonstrated "an arrogance of power." Republicans, she said in a Senate speech last week, "did not get enough of what they want . . . and they are throwing a fit."

A partisan fight over the confirmations of federal appellate court nominees Priscilla Owen and Janice Rogers Brown evolved in recent weeks into an arguably more important battle over whether to preserve the filibuster, a Senate tradition allowing a minority of lawmakers to stage unlimited debate that blocks a vote on something, or someone, they oppose.

Feinstein and Boxer, both part of the Senate's Democratic minority, argued that doing away with the filibuster would create such ill feelings that the chamber would become a rancorous place ruled by passions rather than reason.

"The Senate will most certainly face a loss of civility, a loss of respect for differences," Feinstein said in a Senate speech Monday. "Political messages will overwhelm substantive policy, and political potshots will drive our debates, rather than the best interest of the American people."

Meanwhile, Boxer sought to portray the president as something of a spoiled autocrat by noting the Senate had approved 208 of his judicial nominees and rejected 10.

"This is a 95 percent success rate," Boxer said. "I ask the people of this country to think about what it would mean in their lives if they got 95 percent of what they wanted."

On Monday, Senate leaders struck a compromise: Democrats agreed to stand aside and allow swift votes on three circuit court nominees, including Owen and Brown, and to withhold filibusters on future circuit court and Supreme Court nominees except in "extraordinary circumstances." In return, the GOP agreed it would not change Senate rules to prevent filibusters on judicial nominees.

Feinstein and Boxer have argued that Owen and Brown are too conservative for lifetime appointments to the federal bench. While each called Monday's compromise "a victory" for Senate tradition, their remarks in the past days revealed long-simmering sentiments about how the GOP has operated in Congress and the White House over the years.

"Checks and balances are not new," Feinstein told her colleagues. "Our country's 200-year tradition of working through our differences is not new. The need for consultation is not new. . . . What is new is the majority party's decision that if you win an election, you should have absolute power."

Some Republicans have suggested that Feinstein and Boxer acted hypocritically, because in the past, each called on Republicans to stop delaying tactics that prevented the Senate from voting on some of former President Clinton's judicial nominees.

On Sept. 16, 1999, Feinstein said "a nominee is entitled to a vote. Vote them up; vote them down," she said when conservatives tried to block votes on two nominees to California's 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. "If we don't like them, we can vote against them. That is the honest thing to do. If there are things in their background, in their abilities that don't pass muster, vote no."

On Jan. 28, 1998, the day the Senate confirmed Barry Silverman to the 9th Circuit, Boxer said that whether "the delays are on the Republican side or the Democratic side, let these names come up, let us have debate, let us vote."

Feinstein acknowledged that six years ago, when Senate Republicans tried to block the Clinton judicial nominees, "many of us . . . were frustrated."

"At that time, I urged my colleagues to allow a vote," Feinstein said in her speech Monday. "However, I did not advocate breaking the (Senate) rules . . . as a way to force Republicans to their knees."


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What part of "minority" don't these dims understand?
1 posted on 05/25/2005 11:06:04 AM PDT by South40
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To: South40
What part of "minority" don't these dims understand?

What part of "majority" do the Rs not understand?

2 posted on 05/25/2005 11:07:41 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: South40
They treated us so well when we were in the minority.

Y'see.

3 posted on 05/25/2005 11:07:59 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Republican Party is the France of politics.)
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To: South40

Their opinions should be disregarded.

Hint to California voters: If you don't want a Senator who's opinions are "disregarded," then get a new Senator.


4 posted on 05/25/2005 11:08:39 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: South40

The lack of civility is all on the Dems side. The gall of these people is unbelievable. I wish they would run a decent senator from CA against these two turkeys, would love to get them out of office.


5 posted on 05/25/2005 11:08:39 AM PDT by calex59
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To: South40

So, the majority bottles up some of the moonbats in the committee. Nominees that Bill Clinton sent up while he was just about ready to pack his bags and go home, and these two harridans think that's the same thing


6 posted on 05/25/2005 11:09:11 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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To: South40

This kind of duplicitous sniveling nonsense from these two liberal ninnies isn't even worth the effort of an insulting response. So I won't.


7 posted on 05/25/2005 11:11:39 AM PDT by skeeter ("What's to talk about? It's illegal." S Bono)
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"Instead, there appears to be a kind of disregard for the opinions of all Democratic senators."

No shite, Sherlock.

8 posted on 05/25/2005 11:13:09 AM PDT by RightWingMama
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To: South40

"This is a 95 percent success rate," Boxer said. "I ask the people of this country to think about what it would mean in their lives if they got 95 percent of what they wanted."


It would mean that you and all but a handful of your political bedfellows would be out of power and teaching a civics course at some community college.



9 posted on 05/25/2005 11:13:28 AM PDT by DamascusRoad (Bay Area National Geological Preserve)
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To: South40
I have only two words for the DemocRATS:

Richard Nixon

11 posted on 05/25/2005 11:14:16 AM PDT by Nachum
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I don't disregard the Democrat Senators' opinions, I just give them a 44% weighting.

-PJ

12 posted on 05/25/2005 11:15:43 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: South40

I'd hate it if Ted Kennedy was giving a "Bush is Hitler" speech and then Robert Byrd was giving a "Bush is Satan" speech and then all of a sudden things got uncivil.


13 posted on 05/25/2005 11:16:39 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (It's the Anti-Americanism, Stupid!)
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To: South40

Same old BS... The Senate is NOT the House of Lords no matter how much Boxer, Warner, and Byrd might wish it to be. Yes, it should operate at a higher level but its "form" is not and never should be more important than its "function".

"Advice and Consent" does not mean that a minority gets to tell a majority what to do and how to do it and it sure does not mean that the President has to "consult" with a bunch on morons before he makes a decision or submits a nomination, particularly minority morons.


14 posted on 05/25/2005 11:17:24 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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"This is a 95 percent success rate," Boxer said. "I ask the people of this country to think about what it would mean in their lives if they got 95 percent of what they wanted."

That guy involved in the Wendy's Chili Incident still has 95% of his fingers.

15 posted on 05/25/2005 11:17:45 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (It's the Anti-Americanism, Stupid!)
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Hmmm ...erosion of Senate civility ...

May 22, 1856 - Republican Senator Charles Sumner was assualted and caned by Democrat Representative Preston Brooks on the floor of the Senate.

16 posted on 05/25/2005 11:17:55 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: skeeter

When the Senate's civility erodes to the point where Feinstein and Boxer are getting beaten with their own designer handbags, let me know. I'll start paying attention.


17 posted on 05/25/2005 11:17:58 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: South40; All

The more the Dems whine, it seems to me the more they are convinced they lost..


18 posted on 05/25/2005 11:18:34 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: South40
On Monday, Senate leaders struck a compromise:

Leaders?

19 posted on 05/25/2005 11:20:01 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: South40
What part of "minority" don't these dims understand?

They understand it just fine. But they know they have the mainstream press 100% behind them to spread their lies and propaganda. That's how the Donk minority gets to lead around the Republicans by the nose.

20 posted on 05/25/2005 11:21:43 AM PDT by dennisw (He writes everything's been returned which was owed...)
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