Dutch Judge: Mohammed isn't a pedophile

To day judge R. Paris ruled in the court case against Ayaan Hirsi Ali that she did not acted unlawfully when she talked about the Islam and Mohammed. A group of Muslims had started the trial to forbid her of speaking about the Islam, Mohammed and to forbid the sequel of submission. The judge said he has no indication that Hirsi Ali did grieve the Islamic people on purpose:

"[Hirsi Ali] chooses in her struggle against women suppression an maltreatment consciously for a method that stimulates debate about Islam reform"

But amazingly the judge also warned Hirsi Ali to be careful when she makes statements about the prophet. Hirsi Ali had in a newspaper interview said that according to our current norms and values the prophet was a "perverse tyrant" and a "pedophile". Judge Paris questions, "if it was needed to use these words".

"It looks like if [Hirsi Ali] with the use of these words has sought the limits of the permissible. The term pedophile has been chosen unfortunate because for that there would be the need of a pattern, although it is in the story an one time event".

Judge Paris said that she did not break the law when she said it, but that would be questionable if she would repeat saying it. The lawyer of the Muslims says that she has been warned and that she received a red ticket. But Hirsi Ali, later said on Radio 1 that the Dutch language is a rich language and she will find other words. I will use other words for the same event: "I still find it morally wrong". But she also said she has no intention to start bashing Islam or Mohammed.

But there is more... But that is not all the news around Hirsi Ali today. Integration Minister Verdonk was special guest for the national tree-planting day. She could not go to the event and send Hirsi Ali as her replacement to the 49th national tree-planting day with the theme: "Sow Peace". Hirsi talked to the organization and they where very happy to receive her. She also looked forward to it, because it would be her first public appearance since the murder on Theo van Gogh.

But today burgomaster J.J.M. Som forbids her coming to his city. He declared he could not guarantee her safety: "I do not take that responsibility". But after some political fall-out, he now seems to deny that and says that the organization does not want her to come. He is not available for comments on the affair, because at this very moment he is having a birthday party. But Hirsi Ali says the organization was very positive about her coming.

It turns out, that of the 600 school children not all are local school children they also invited children of an Islamic school out of the city of Heerlen and from an Egyptian school from the city of Amsterdam. And the Egyptian ambassador is invited....

Sight. I think PeakTalk is right in saying he expects that Hirsi Ali will probably continue her career in the USA. He is not the first one to suggest this; friends of her already predicted an international career as well. Many liberal colleagues also want to get rid of her and she knows that. She could be leaving sooner then any one in The Netherlands expects.

On TV But Hirsi Ali revealed more in talk show "Barend en van dorp" (former football commentators who now do politics). For example that she is still waiting for normal housing. The civil servants of Donner want her first to sign a lengthy tennet contract. They say they want to do this right because otherwise they could get troubles in the future, for giving her to luxurious housing for to little money. If Hirsi Ali does not sign the contract, she does not get normal housing. Does a bit sound like extortion doesn't it?

At this moment she still is moved around the country and often does not know where she will sleep that night. She also cannot receive friends where she stays. Even when they forced her to go into hiding in the USA, they did not allow her friends to visit her, because that was deemed to dangerous.

When the talk show hosts ask how it is to live like that, with all those dead threats. She says, it is like being diagnosed as having a terminal disease and the doctor tells you that he does not know how long you have. And when asked about the future she says: "you have to make the best of life while you live".

But she was also the liberal politician. She ignored questions about former liberal (VVD) leader Hans Wiegel who wants to take the leadership of the party and who wants her out. But did talk about Wilders - declaration of independence. As a real liberal (VVD) she ridiculed it, as not being constructive and realistic.

Although she agrees with Wilders, that no Islamic schools should be allowed to be founded in The Netherlands. By this she seems to be positioned as the Muslim critical voice of the liberal party that can keep liberal voters in the party that do not feel comfortable with the rest of Wilders his capitalistic free market ideas, that many deride as extreme. She could be the lifeline of the liberal party.

TOP EIGHT REASONS NOT TO IMMIGRATE TO CANADA 8. Discriminatory and Dishonest Immigration System.

Anyone with $$$ can get landed immigrant status fairly easily. A lot of folks from Hong Kong have made their home in B.C. this way. In many cases immigrants are told where they must live as the paperwork is processed, this actually helps spread the immigration burden around a bit. Instead of everybody piling into Toronto and Vancover, some will wind up in Saskatcewan or northern Alberta. I think that system could work better here, rather than making California and Arizona bear so much of the cost and change. There are dying towns in Iowa that might just do fine with a bunch of new immigrants.

7. Out Of Control Cost Of Living.

As with the U.S., it depends completely on where you are. eating out in Vancouver was MUCH cheaper than Seattle. Rents in Edmonton are not staggeringly high. Cars cost more than the U.S., but not more than in Europe or the pacific rim.

6. Health Care Crisis.
There are definite problems here. The doctors tend to lord it over the patients. Some areas fare better than others, and there will always be some problems with a country with as much rural areas as Canada.

5. Very High Taxes.

High, but varies widely. Alberta has very low provincial taxes. Overall the prairie provinces overall tax bite is probably less than a typical coastal U.S. city (e.g. NYC, SF) when you throw in property taxes. All of the western countries have abuse problems with welfare.

4. Money Hungry Government.

And that is different from Europe and the rest of the Americas how??? The foreigners with money KNOW what they are getting... stability. The white farmer fleeing from South Africa knows he's not getting Utopia. He knows that he is buying access. It is still a big improvement for him.

3. No Culture.

When was the last time you had some 'Canadian' food? Well, Nanaimo Bars and Tortiere are wonderful treats made by my Canadian wife. Almost all the world's maple syrup comes from Quebec, and more apples come from Canada than the U.S. There certainly is a French-Canadian food tradition, and while its not Paris, it can hold its own against London. There are no Canadian traditions and there is no national identity. What does it even mean to call yourself a 'Canadian'. . .nothing really. People living in Canada, still identify themselves as to where they 'originally' came from.French-Canadians are a distinctive culture. You can see it as distinct from European, because it survives in the Acadians who were sent to the U.S. south. Many Americans also identify themselves by ethnic roots (e.g. Italians and Irish)

2. Worst Weather.

Canada is too large for that to be true. Vancouver Island has some of the best weather in the world, and the prairie provinces, though cold, are at least dry. If you have allergies and cannot deal with an Arizona summer, Alberta or Saskatchewan are better alternatives.

1. No Jobs.

Yes, coast to coast, there are no jobs.

That just isn't true. Canada's economy is largely based on raw materials (lumber, oil, mining etc.) Grande Prarie, Alberta has essentially full employment and guys out of high school can pull $100K+ if they are willing to work hard on dangerous oil rigs.

I am happy to be an American, and Canada is full of problems. The biggest problem, is that the liberals in Ontario and Quebec are calling the shots for Alberta and Saskatchewan. (oh, and Pierre Trudeau ruined the place) The writer's problem, to me, is that he is using the greater Toronto area as a synonym for Canada. Canada is not perfect, but my wife was home-schooled there (try that in Germany), gasoline is half the price that is in Europe (and not much above the U.S. with the stronger Canadaian dollar), if you do not have to be in a big city, land is cheap (my in-laws bought six acres outside of Grande Prairie for under 40K), all of the conveniences of big box stores are available (Wal-Mart, Zellers, Superstore, Safeway), and NUMBER ONE ADVANTAGE OF CANADA: You can get a toilet with more than 1.6 gal/flush!

I believe Mohammed married a girl of around 6 but did not "consumate" the marriage until she was a few years older. In light of his times does that make him a pedophile? Technically not, but it sure is kind of creepy.

Regardless the real life of Mohammed is largely unknown in the West because most people have never done the research. Muslim scholars that produce anything other than the party line risk having their throats slit and Western Scholars are often politically correct to the point of delusion or simply afraid of the truth. Imagine the results if the same rigor for seeking out the "historic Jesus" was used to explore the "historic Mohammed"? (You want the truth? You can't handle the truth!)

What is scarier, though, is that courts in Holland and Italy have both recently been willing to accept legal action against people for "defaming Islam". The old blasphemy laws are being resurrected in the name of "tolerance" and judges in "free" countries are doing the job that roving gangs of religious thugs do in Muslim lands. That is way more important an issue then some debate about whether the Prophet was in to pre-teen girls.

Someday when the women in Holland have to wear those ugly burlap sacks and men are checked for the length of their beards and anyone who resists is relegated to the status of second class citizen the people of that land and others will wake up and realize what they have lost but it will be too late.

>"I believe Mohammed married a girl of around 6 but did not "consumate" the marriage until she was a few years older. In light of his times does that make him a pedophile? Technically not, but it sure is kind of creepy."<

The girl mo' married was Aisha, the 6 year old daughter of his "close friend" Abu Bakr, who succeeded muhammad as Caliph. Muhammad (pig excrement be upon him) did indeed consummate the "marriage" at 9 lunar years, which works out to 8 years, 8 months. In light of his times, and so on that definitely does make him a cretin, a twisted pervert who knew better and in his crazed lust, simply didn't care!

He had gone to Abu Bakr three times, pleading his case to have the child as his bride. Muhammad claimed a divine dream from allah in which the child was handed to him, swaddled in silk bundles. Abu Bakr, perhaps wisely fearing for his own life, agreed. Arranged marriages were commonplace back then, the prospective couples were usually at least 14 years old, but consummation at any age under 12 was highly irregular and not widely accepted.

There is no comparison between the true Jesus and the real muhammad. Christ was everything He said he was, all He had been prophesied to be. Muhammad was everything that "moderate" Islam has tried to conceal, whitewash, and worse.

For the best,oldest and most reliable info on the paedophile false prophet, see the link on the home page of FReeper 'Fred Nerks'.

A.A.C.

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