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Europe and Islam and America

Posted on 05/21/2005 1:28:48 PM PDT by S0122017

Are america aware of the situation in europe?

Islam really got its fangs between our vertebraes here.

Im from holland, and its getting almost cartoonish stupid. Politics has reached the lowest viable intelligence level, and most people that used to have a political decision seem to have decided that it is best to pretend nothings going on.

Politicians proposed throwing out second day of Pinkster, (also english word for it?), a Christian holiday, as a national holiday, and want to have the islamic Sugarfestival instead.

They got resistance from christians here but increasingly larger population make-up of islamics are making increasingly more fuss about getting more accomodations especially for them!

Chinese people have been here for decades and never demanded anything, neither have Jews or Hindus.

Taking into account that islamic youth causing way more problems than any other ethnicity, that is truly disgusting.

The rest of europe is also insane, I was in Swiss and saw a made in korea lighter in a shop, shaped like the twin towers and a head of a smiling osama bin laden. If you press the head down the towers 'break' down and 2 flames appear.

Absolutely no critic or whatsoever, and it was in the shop 3 months after the 9/11 incident.. some business man must have been really quick to respond.


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To: an italian

Hey, great home page! I'm glad you're part of FR. May God bless you, and may God bless Italy.


41 posted on 05/21/2005 3:27:04 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: iopscusa

"I only hope that some American leaders recognize that there is a big problem with the Europeans"

House Subcommittee on Europe and Emerging Threats
Hearing: Islamic Extremism in Europe
April 27, 2005
http://wwwc.house.gov/international_relations/euhear.htm


42 posted on 05/21/2005 4:04:09 PM PDT by thierrya
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To: pbrown
You're right, Europeans, first and foremost, need to get rid off the feeling of envy, jealousiness, the anti-americanism toward the US. Those are not good attitudes to a country that I'm sure will come and fight for them. As I mentioned on another thread somewhere, we couldn't really reason with these islamist fascism and terrorists (should I say moslems in general since they keep their silence, meaning they condone it ?), even when you try to explain things, these islamists will stab you in the back. "Unconditional surrender" means notheing to them, hence total destruction is necessary.
43 posted on 05/21/2005 4:10:13 PM PDT by Random Nonsense
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To: Random Nonsense
"Unconditional surrender" means notheing to them, hence total destruction is necessary.

That is what they have planned for us.

God help us all, you are right. I'm afraid it WILL be a battle between religions before it is through. There is a verbal battle going on between religions now. How long before a physical battle is upon us.

What have I left for my children and grandchildren? What kind of world will they inherit? One ruled by freedom or one ruled by subjugation?

44 posted on 05/21/2005 4:39:57 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: an italian

"I'm really afraid for my Country."

So am I. That's why I will visit Italy one more time this October before all the beautiful churches will be replaced by ugly mosques.

We here in America will not be far behind unless our political "leaders" wake up to the national disaster that is taking shape. Sadly to say that our "leaders" are paid well for their disservive to our county.


45 posted on 05/21/2005 4:41:06 PM PDT by auburntiger
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

"Once the Euros become entrenched enough in islam, they'll call on America to save them once again."

What are we going to do? Send our islamic forces?


46 posted on 05/21/2005 4:44:21 PM PDT by auburntiger
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To: pbrown

"Europe made that choice. Not us. Let them fight their own battles."

NOT US??? Wake up! What is happening in Europe is taking place right here. We are only some 10 years out of phase in history.


47 posted on 05/21/2005 4:51:04 PM PDT by auburntiger
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To: auburntiger
NOT US??? Wake up! What is happening in Europe is taking place right here. We are only some 10 years out of phase in history.

We have the will to fight back. Europe is rolling over. I have more faith in this country. Islam will not rule us. There will be a day when I'm sure that Americans will fight Americans. It will be American Christians against American Muslims.

The people of europe are unarmed...we are not.

48 posted on 05/21/2005 4:56:50 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: auburntiger
As an after thought: We see what is happening to Europe, we are seeing first hand what will happen to a land where islam is dominating.

We will not become europe. They are our example of what not to do.

49 posted on 05/21/2005 4:59:23 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

"There will be a day when I'm sure that Americans will fight Americans. It will be American Christians against American Muslims."

That day does not need to come if our government has the insight in our present predicament and start doing something about it right now.


50 posted on 05/21/2005 5:18:41 PM PDT by auburntiger
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To: auburntiger
Can we not wait for the day when CAIR is banned and abolished ? :) Soon I hope.
51 posted on 05/21/2005 5:31:38 PM PDT by Random Nonsense
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To: S0122017
I fear that the only solution for Europe may be lying in some government warehouse in Berlin gathering dust since 1945.
52 posted on 05/21/2005 6:18:49 PM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: S0122017
My wife and I were in the Netherlands about 10 years ago. I have to say (and my wife--who is originally from Europe--agrees) that it is probably the only country on the continent we could live in. Or so it seemed then.

The Dutch were the only people we met in Europe who visibly brightened when they learned we were Americans, even in small neighborhood bars where they had to struggle with English to talk to us. Maybe they were just glad we weren't Germans:-).

I'm very sorry to see what's happening now in the Netherlands.

My advice: you must show no tolerance for those who promote violence or who engage in criminality. They must be jailed and then deported, especially the imams.

You need to remind the Muslim population that they are both free to worship as they please but also free to leave if they don't wish to assimilate.

53 posted on 05/21/2005 6:37:32 PM PDT by pierrem15
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To: auburntiger
That day does not need to come if our government has the insight in our present predicament and start doing something about it right now.

If our government can't close our borders, I don't have much faith in them stopping what could be coming down the pike at us. They have plans to protect the government hierarchy, but we lowly Americans I'm sure with have to watch after our own necks.

54 posted on 05/21/2005 7:42:44 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: S0122017
I was at Church this evening and I was thinking about you and your situation and any words of encouragement that i could offer you. What I came up with are the words of St. Seraphim of Sarov who paraphrased one of the Dessert Fathers and said something to the effect of, "save your own soul and you will save thousands around you." So whatever you do not give up.
55 posted on 05/21/2005 8:14:59 PM PDT by peter the great
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To: pbrown

Envy, fear, jealousy, gross mis-information, cowardice, lack of empirical reasoning ability, socialism, the nanny state, self-indulgent hedonism, etc., etc., etc.


56 posted on 05/21/2005 9:06:53 PM PDT by garyhope
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To: S0122017

Very interesting post. I believe Pinkster (German: Pfingsten) is Pentecost.


57 posted on 05/21/2005 9:30:36 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: garyhope
Envy, fear, jealousy, gross mis-information, cowardice, lack of empirical reasoning ability, socialism, the nanny state, self-indulgent hedonism, etc., etc., etc.

I like your list.

58 posted on 05/21/2005 9:46:48 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: S0122017; pbrown; monkeywrench; CyberAnt; Gritty

Really, really sad - the europeans are acting like the German Jews under Hitler.

They keep giving in hoping that the monster will be satisfied and leave them alone, instead he just gets hungrier and bolder.

This is what happens when a people who no longer believe in anything other than their guilt, comes up against fanatics who hate them and are certain of their beliefs.

There still is time... but not much.

What will you do, S0122017? Run, fight or submit?


59 posted on 05/21/2005 9:55:07 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: aquila48
Run, fight or submit?

Of all the post, yours cut to the heart of it. When all is said and done...which will we choose?

Fight!

60 posted on 05/21/2005 10:08:22 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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