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LIVE SENATE THREAD: "Nuclear Wednesday" for judicial nominations: C-span 2 - 9:30 am EST
C-span 2 ^ | May 18, 2005

Posted on 05/18/2005 5:48:45 AM PDT by ken5050

Welcome, all you Freepers, to the continuing C-span soap operas about judicial nominations. "The Guiding SEARCHLIGHT, " "As the SENATE Turns, "One NOMINATION to Live" "GERIATRIC Hospital" (for all you Byrd and Lautenberg fans out there). Follow along with us, as the Dems raise the level of histrionics, bloviation, pontification, and all around bad acting to new highs, er, lows...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; allen2008; claudenovak; constitutionaloption; cspan; democratnukereaction; filibuster; georgeallen; may18th2005; reidsnuclearreaction; showdown; ussenate
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To: ken5050

CNN now reporting that 12 senators....6 Dems, 6 GOP..meeting in Warner's office to broker a compromise..Nelson says negotiations are ongoing..

That would completly suck. But it would be normal. sigh


1,861 posted on 05/18/2005 1:08:09 PM PDT by Bungarian
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To: OESY

good suggestions for phone calling.


1,862 posted on 05/18/2005 1:10:05 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Soul Seeker; All

Arlen Specter was just on with Judy Woodruff---

Judy asked him if it was true that the GOP want an up or down vote on all of Bushs nominees---and he said yes--

when she said, "Then why don't you just say that", Specter said we are, but then went into some long, convoluted explanation that had my head spinning....

If anyone else heard the interview, could you please tell me what the heck Specter just said?


1,863 posted on 05/18/2005 1:10:30 PM PDT by Txsleuth ( Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Fledermaus

Unless I'm mistaken, the only extra- or supermajority vote mentioned is for ratifying treaties. Two thirds required in that case. The filibuster rule has been changed in regard to parliamentary delaying tactics for legislation in the past.


1,864 posted on 05/18/2005 1:10:45 PM PDT by Don Carlos (Me cache en los Moros. (Ancient Spanish curse))
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To: Bungarian

Arlen was on life with Judy Woodward..the idea is to get a pre-count of how Senators will actually vote on the judges..if they'e gonna lose..no sense bothering to filabuster them..this sucks..back office deals..


1,865 posted on 05/18/2005 1:11:27 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: Bungarian

I want a vote no matter, put them on record.

And I promise any Republican that derails this can start packing their bags.

BTW, it's been confirmed Dems shut down the Senate.


1,866 posted on 05/18/2005 1:11:53 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Soul Seeker

no deal no deal no deal no deal.


1,867 posted on 05/18/2005 1:13:03 PM PDT by badgerbengal (close the border and open fire.)
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To: Don Carlos

Impeachment also. For some reason I thought there was language as to legislative matters...but you are more than likely correct. I'll read up on it again later.


1,868 posted on 05/18/2005 1:13:42 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Rats theme song: "Whatever it is...I'm AGAINST it!!!")
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To: Soul Seeker

Orrin Hatch on Hannity.

Referencing the Miranda memos.

Orrin-started with rehnquist when re-nominated for Chief Justice. leaked his medical records. They smeared souter because they thought he was pro-life? LOL I wish.


1,869 posted on 05/18/2005 1:14:35 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Txsleuth
Do you think that the dems are saving KKK Byrd for the "primetime line up"?

I don't know who their best players are, but you can bet they are planning to have what they think is to their best political advantage on at prime time, and in the morning before the daily programs cut away.

They have tomorrow to work with as well, and almost certainly Friday morning. On Friday morning, Frist may telegraph his plan for asking to vote on the nominee. He won't ask to take the vote then, just indicate that at some point, there will be a request for unanimous consent to move to the vote. He may say that "next week, we will be asking, on a periodic basis, for unanimous consent to go to the vote. We aim to have had a full debate, blah blah blah"

There is no rule that cloture MUST be advanced. Most bills are voted on without a cloture motion. Cloture is a way to get to the vote WITHOUT unanimous consent.

The timing of asking for the vote is a fluid matter. I don't know for sure how Frist will gauge the timing - opinion polls? news broadcasts? pundit suggestions? editorials? or just his sense that the public has seen enough debate, and the public will "accept" or "understand" putting a question to the chair. Maybe it'll take until next week Friday. We do know that Frist has put no time certain to the matter. The nominee will be fully debated.

1,870 posted on 05/18/2005 1:16:12 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Soul Seeker
BTW, it's been confirmed Dems shut down the Senate.

This is going to come back and bite them in the @ss- big time. Who's going to be blamed for the shutdown? The Repubs? I don't think so...

1,871 posted on 05/18/2005 1:17:16 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (It's time the left - left!!!)
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota
In the belief that Hillary is running the party (and I heard HER words today when Schumer spoke), she has managed to drive the party to a new low in hopes of saving the pro-abortion base. Along the way, she has insulted both the Hispanic and Black base. She does indeed believe most people are stupid....but guess what....not as stupid as she thinks.

Her sole interest is power and no more. She cares for no one.

1,872 posted on 05/18/2005 1:17:27 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: the anti-liberal

Yep-thats the one!!


1,873 posted on 05/18/2005 1:18:39 PM PDT by Txsleuth ( Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Sacajaweau

Orrin on those working for compromise- nothing less than an up or down vote is acceptable.

He'll be on Hannity tonight with Nelson.


1,874 posted on 05/18/2005 1:19:42 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Soul Seeker

Sean says Pelosi and Reid are about to go before the cameras somewhere.


1,875 posted on 05/18/2005 1:20:24 PM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: ken5050
CNN now reporting that 12 senators....6 Dems, 6 GOP..meeting in Warner's office to broker a compromise..Nelson says negotiations are ongoing..

Oh. A pity party! I am at a loss as to what a compromise might be. Vote with less than full debate? Don't vote on the nominee? There isn't a whole lot of middle ground on the matter of the nomination of Pricilla Owen. Will the Senate obtain unanimous consent to vote on the nominee? If so, no rules change needed. But, a single objector will probably be aksed to take the floor and explain the INDIVIDUAL objection to taking the vote.

1,876 posted on 05/18/2005 1:20:27 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Soul Seeker

Per hannity- pelosi and Reid scheduled in front of cameras in 10-15 minutes.


1,877 posted on 05/18/2005 1:20:44 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Bungarian

CNN now reporting that 12 senators....6 Dems, 6 GOP..meeting in Warner's office to broker a compromise..Nelson says negotiations are ongoing..

That would completly suck. But it would be normal. sigh
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If these 12 senators agree on a deal, how difficult would it be to stop it?


1,878 posted on 05/18/2005 1:20:52 PM PDT by Rumierules
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To: Sacajaweau
not as stupid as she thinks

And not nearly as stupid as she is! She is not the "brilliant lawyer" the press wants everyone to believe. She is really quite ignorant (especially in the common sense department). But, she is mean as hell and vindictive.

1,879 posted on 05/18/2005 1:21:17 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Cboldt

A compromise means the dems get their way.


1,880 posted on 05/18/2005 1:21:33 PM PDT by Bungarian
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